Stag Arms 24" SS Varmint 5.56

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    Im looking at one of these, comes with a 1/8 twist. Owner says its a .5 MOA tack driver. I hear that 1/7 is best for LR with heavier 5.56 cartridges but 1/8 is still good and gives a bit more versatility. Suggestions for reasonable glass?

    Comments? Educate me.
     
    Generally good shooters; buy some wheels & start lifting weights so you can haul is around, though.

    Other than not having to work a bolt, you might as well just buy a normal BA rifle.

    JMHO, YMMV

    MM
     
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    Im looking at one of these, comes with a 1/8 twist. Owner says its a .5 MOA tack driver. I hear that 1/7 is best for LR with heavier 5.56 cartridges but 1/8 is still good and gives a bit more versatility. Suggestions for reasonable glass?

    Comments? Educate me.

    I had one a few years back, Definitely a good Varmint Rifle. Is this choice dictated because of a tight budget or are you looking for an accurate varmint rifle in general. ??

    I only ask because for a couple hundred more you can go to Compass Lake and get the same style of upper/Rifle but in any length, contour, chamber, twist rate or design you wish.


    And in regards to the weight of the rifle it is a heavy beast just to give you a frame of reference, the scoped rifle you see in the picture is my 20" varmint Rifle with a compass Lake medium varmint profile barrel and even with all of the equipment that's on it, it's still lighter than the 24" Bull Barrel Les Baer 6.5G in front.

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    I own two of the Stag Model 6 Super Varminter with 24" 1:8" Stainless barrel. I have shot it off a bipod in NRA F T/R at the Berger SW LR Nationals 600yd MR course, and found it highly adequate with the Bob SLED magazine replacement. It was superseded by the Stag 15 Varminter which is, to be best of my knowledge, simply the same gun with a different rear stock (and no accuracy guarantee). My second was built from the factory kit, and performs identically. I bought the first one (guessing) about a decade back. It's always been ready when called upon and displayed no teething pains.

    It came with the 1/2MOA (with factory match ammo) factory accuracy guarantee; and using Prvi-Partizan 75gr match, it achieved the guaranteed accuracy several times for me at 100, and at 200yd (in calm conditions).

    I like the rifle despite its obvious greater weight; off a bipod, the weight is not much of an issue for me. The factory two-stage trigger is the only two stage I own, and I especially like it. The lower is my basic foundation for all my other Uppers, and that trigger makes all of them all nicer to shoot. One of them has the Luth AR MBA1 stock, and it's a godsend with its adjustable LOP (I adjust most of my rifles to a 16-16 1/2" LOP due to my 6 1/2ft height). But the adjustable cheek rest is too high for me even at it lowest when mounting scopes in standard one piece base/mounts. I removed mine completely.

    The 1:8" twist is fine for 75gr Hornady HPBT-Match, and that load (23.5-23.7gr Varget) does well in both 1:8" 24" and 1:9" 24" barrels of mine. I am planning to test IMI 77gr Razor Core soon, and expect I it to do fine.

    My only 1:7" twist barrel is in a 16" Upper and I will be testing it soon with the IMI 77. I would not try it with the longer ELD type bullets; but really, if we keep the rifle to 600yd, they're not actually needed. I'm generally a conservative regarding projectile stability.

    The Stag Model 6 (and I suspect) Stag 15 Varminter are my best idea of excellent rifles for getting into MR (and maybe LR) AR shooting with the smallest overhead or hassle. I don't shoot LR (to 1000yd) with the AR. I honestly believe it's best out to 600yd (and maybe 800yd), and use my 28" .260 for out to and past (1100yd) LR distances. I like a velocity margin at those distances.

    I just acquired a 20" 1:8" 6.5 Grendel Upper, and that could be a good rifle as a bridge between the MR and LR.

    Greg
     
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    I own two of the Stag Model 6 Super Varminter with 24" 1:8" Stainless barrel. I have shot it off a bipod in NRA F T/R at the Berger SW LR Nationals 600yd MR course, and found it highly adequate with the Bob SLED magazine replacement. It was superseded by the Stag 15 Varminter which is, to be best of my knowledge, simply the same gun with a different rear stock (and no accuracy guarantee). My second was built from the factory kit, and performs identically. I bought the first one (guessing) about a decade back. It's always been ready when called upon and displayed no teething pains.

    It came with the 1/2MOA (with factory match ammo) factory accuracy guarantee; and using Prvi-Partizan 75gr match, it achieved the guaranteed accuracy several times for me at 100, and at 200yd (in calm conditions).

    I like the rifle despite its obvious greater weight; off a bipod, the weight is not much of an issue for me. The factory two-stage trigger is the only two stage I own, and I especially like it. The lower is my basic foundation for all my other Uppers, and that trigger makes all of them all nicer to shoot. One of them has the Luth AR MBA1 stock, and it's a godsend with its adjustable LOP (I adjust most of my rifles to a 16-16 1/2" LOP due to my 6 1/2ft height). But the adjustable cheek rest is too high for me even at it lowest when mounting scopes in standard one piece base/mounts. I removed mine completely.

    The 1:8" twist is fine for 75gr Hornady HPBT-Match, and that load (23.5-23.7gr Varget) does well in both 1:8" 24" and 1:9" 24" barrels of mine. I am planning to test IMI 77gr Razor Core soon, and expect I it to do fine.

    My only 1:7" twist barrel is in a 16" Upper and I will be testing it soon with the IMI 77. I would not try it with the longer ELD type bullets; but really, if we keep the rifle to 600yd, they're not actually needed. I'm generally a conservative regarding projectile stability.

    The Stag Model 6 (and I suspect) Stag 15 Varminter are my best idea of excellent rifles for getting into MR (and maybe LR) AR shooting with the smallest overhead or hassle. I don't shoot LR (to 1000yd) with the AR. I honestly believe it's best out to 600yd (and maybe 800yd), and use my 28" .260 for out to and past (1100yd) LR distances. I like a velocity margin at those distances.

    I just acquired a 20" 1:8" 6.5 Grendel Upper, and that could be a good rifle as a bridge between the MR and LR.

    Greg

    Wow, thanks for all the info, Greg. I just made a deal on one locally for $700. Looks like Ill want to change the stock, maybe the trigger. Might just swap it out for a Colt 6920 lower. We'll see. Ill pick it up this week. Sounds pretty nice, see below.

    Stag upper
    24 inch stag arms stainless bull barrel (target crowned).
    Stag arms railed gas block and gas system .
    Bcm lpk and trigger guard.
    Full auto rated bcg with titanium firing pin.
    H2 heavy buffer and spring.
    Psa lower.
    Magpul k2 grip.
    Trinity force a2 stock.
    Hogue aluminum handguard.
    Caldwell bipod.
    1/8 twist.

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    Wow, thanks for all the info, Greg. I just made a deal on one locally for $700. Looks like Ill want to change the stock, maybe the trigger. Might just swap it out for a Colt 6920 lower. We'll see. Ill pick it up this week. Sounds pretty nice, see below.

    Stag upper
    24 inch stag arms stainless bull barrel (target crowned).
    Stag arms railed gas block and gas system .
    Bcm lpk and trigger guard.
    Full auto rated bcg with titanium firing pin.
    H2 heavy buffer and spring.
    Psa lower.
    Magpul k2 grip.
    Trinity force a2 stock.
    Hogue aluminum handguard.
    Caldwell bipod.
    1/8 twist.

    9881044_01_24_stainless_bull_barrel_varmi_640.jpg

    9881044_01_24_stainless_bull_barrel_varmi_640.jpg

    If you feel like selling the a2 stock let me know.
     
    Excellent, and I wish you great fortune with it.

    I kept mine pure factory stock because..., well, that's who I am. But mostly, I like the way it runs just the way it came.

    Please keep us updated on the rifle and its performance. I'll be looking forward to the comparison with mine.
     
    Excellent, and I wish you great fortune with it.

    I kept mine pure factory stock because..., well, that's who I am. But mostly, I like the way it runs just the way it came.

    Please keep us updated on the rifle and its performance. I'll be looking forward to the comparison with mine.
    Will do.