Stand Your Ground: Unconstitutional in Miami/Dade

yes, how dare we not let some thug murder us without fear of consequence.......we should stand there any just let them beat us to death......how dare we defend ourselves, how can we be so selfish

#CriminalsLivesMatter
 
Probably wasn't too hard to find a Democrat "team player" in the Miami Dade Circuit Court. Kind of like all these states finding team player judges to challenge Trump's travel ban.
 
Natives are tired of seeing their culture and values destroyed by a bunch of grey-haired tramsplants with New York license plates.
 
I gotta believe this won't stand. I'm optimistic there are still more people down 'there' with common sense, excluding their Prosecutors. So not a big fan of stupidity. :mad:
 
the stand your ground law was welcomed wholeheartedly by almost everyone, i dont know anybody that didnt like when it was enacted...with all the habitual offenders being let out or not doing any time at all, we need to be able to defend ourselves from them..
LEO does their jobs
the lawyers are doing there jobs, as pitiful as their jobs seem
but the judges on the other hand, have been dropping the ball. not all of them, we have some good judges, but many of them are letting people go free after conviction that should belocked away from us or even locked away longer...
it frustrates LEO it frustrates john q public, and mekes lawerys richer...
we all must pay more attention to who we elect as our judges
 
Natives are tired of seeing their culture and values destroyed by a bunch of grey-haired tramsplants with New York license plates.

Very true.
I would also add that we are tired of seeing their hairy backs, beer guts and saggy asses hanging out of their Speedos. :^)

QUOTE]Not so many once you're south of Orlando.


Eddie[QUOTE

Eddie,
I would also include Orlando. It's full of nut jobs.
I have to drive there tonight for a midnight flight pick up.
Can't wait to see my daughter, but not looking forward to being in Orlando or driving I-4
 
Very true.
I would also add that we are tired of seeing their hairy backs, beer guts and saggy asses hanging out of their Speedos. :^)


QUOTE]Not so many once you're south of Orlando.


Eddie[QUOTE

Eddie,
I would also include Orlando. It's full of nut jobs.
I have to drive there tonight for a midnight flight pick up.
Can't wait to see my daughter, but not looking forward to being in Orlando or driving I-4

Almost sounds like you're describing Quebecois on the Jersey shore.

 
Well if you followed the article and the links it goes back to supporting Trayvon Martin in which they lied and portrayed him as a little sweet boy and he was not that little, just a street thug.

I was in Florida that week at the Nationals and as we left the range we witnessed two bus load of protestors being bused up from somewhere with a drawing of Trayvon when he was like 12 years old. At the local gas station yet another bus was there and stopped when I pulled in, it was not a good stop for anyone else at the station. I was just trying to get in and out with a little Gatorade and I clearly thought that I was going to have to stand my ground. Burnt a clear picture in my mind how they were lying to promote their addenda. They were aggressive to anyone within reach or ear shot, they were spreading the truth that they wanted everyone to believe, none of it factual.

I have not had any sympathetic feelings for them since that day. Later that night the news commented on how the locals were upset and wanted justice, I don't think any of them where local and I would go as far as saying that most of them were bused in for the event and paid for their efforts.

You didn't like my post post but it doesn't make it any less true.



 
How does race have a fucking thing to do with this? How?

Well, it's not the ONLY thing, but certainly a factor. How would you miss that? Decoy is correct that this judicial over-reach decision by a most-certainly sympathetic judge reinforces a major BLM point of propaganda.
 
Well, it's not the ONLY thing, but certainly a factor. How would you miss that? Decoy is correct that this judicial over-reach decision by a most-certainly sympathetic judge reinforces a major BLM point of propaganda.

I didn't miss it. It reinforces BLM's agenda, but there's no direct link sustaining arguable causality.. The newspaper is obviously pulling at heartstrings with the libtard link in the middle to the Castillo article from 2013, with yet more Trayvon drama, but the judge acted based upon his outlook concerning two cases, which is outlined in the back half of the article:

Hirsch found that the changes to the law were “procedural,” meaning only the Florida Supreme Court has the right to make them.

Hirsch ruled on the case of Liletha Rutherford, who is accused of aggravated assault for pulling a gun on a couple during an argument, and Omar Rodriguez, the so-called ‘Neighbor from Hell” who shot and killed a man after an confrontation over dog poop.

The separate immunity hearings will still be held in the coming weeks — but it will be up to Rutherford and Rodriguez to prove their self-defense claims. If either were to lose their bid at immunity, they could appeal to the Third District Court of Appeal, and ultimately, the Florida Supreme Court.

It was not surprising that Hirsch was the first to weigh in on the new law. Since becoming a judge in 2010, he’s often ruled on broader legal issues that sometimes upend conventional norms.

Earlier this year, the judge ruled that Miami-Dade County’s inmate detention policy, spurred by President Donald Trump’s threats to withhold funding, violated the constitution.

Last year, Hirsch also ruled that the a new death-penalty sentencing structure was unconstitutional, a decision that later proved prescient — the Florida Supreme Court ruled the same months later.

In 2012, Hirsch ruled that prosecutors could not say a fingerprint found at a crime scene was a controversial match, a decision later overturned by an appeals court.

When a Tampa federal judge ruled in 2011 that Florida's drug law was unconstitutional, Hirsch was the only local state judge to follow suit. He tossed out more than two dozen cases, but Miami's appeals court later reversed Hirsch's decision.



 
I've never really understood the whole "stand your ground" thing and here's why. Regardless of any laws, just about any shooting will end up in court. Civil or criminal. Any time someone used deadly force, lawyers start circling like sharks smelling blood. Stand your ground only makes it a little more difficult to have criminal charges.

Most people are sheep and will run from a fight any way. There are only a select few that will fight. And I'd be willing to bet that those of us that would stand and fight back are already aware of the possible consequences. It's like the old saying "what's the one thing attached to every bullet, a lawsuit"

It's still messed up that criminals have more rights than the victims.
 
I've never really understood the whole "stand your ground" thing and here's why. Regardless of any laws, just about any shooting will end up in court. Civil or criminal. Any time someone used deadly force, lawyers start circling like sharks smelling blood. Stand your ground only makes it a little more difficult to have criminal charges.

Most people are sheep and will run from a fight any way. There are only a select few that will fight. And I'd be willing to bet that those of us that would stand and fight back are already aware of the possible consequences. It's like the old saying "what's the one thing attached to every bullet, a lawsuit"

It's still messed up that criminals have more rights than the victims.

I to dislike the "stand your ground" term and just perfer "defend youself". I believe the previous law in Florida REQUIRED you as a victim to make every effort possible to get away from the situation. I believe this included your own home. If it didn't it was percieved that way.

I believe there was an incident where a person went to hide in a bathroom (can't remember if it was a business robbery or home invasion). When the criminal came to the bathroom the person defended themselves. Killing the criminal. The victim was charged with murder because they didn't climb out the bathroom window.
I believe the person was found not guilty, by proving that they could not fit through the window. Prosecution argued they didn't even try.
I believe that is one of the cases that brought the "stand your ground" law to be.
 
I to dislike the "stand your ground" term and just perfer "defend youself". I believe the previous law in Florida REQUIRED you as a victim to make every effort possible to get away from the situation. I believe this included your own home. If it didn't it was percieved that way.

I believe there was an incident where a person went to hide in a bathroom (can't remember if it was a business robbery or home invasion). When the criminal came to the bathroom the person defended themselves. Killing the criminal. The victim was charged with murder because they didn't climb out the bathroom window.
I believe the person was found not guilty, by proving that they could not fit through the window. Prosecution argued they didn't even try.
I believe that is one of the cases that brought the "stand your ground" law to be.

In Florida we have the Castle rule. If they are inside your residence you can shoot them, period. But it never hurts to remember the phrase I was in fear for my Life. If you shoot someone, the first words you should say to the Cops is I though I was gonna die.
 
I would hope. I am looking for the case. I have found a few from 1985 and older "duty to retreat" cases. The one I am think about is from the 1990's I believe. Most of the ones I have found are obvious murder/manslaughter cases. The case i am referring to was clearly an over zealous prosecutor.