I am waiting on a AAC M4 1000 for a Rem 700 in 223. I am wanting to stock up on some subsonic ammo. Can I get some sources for ammo in stock for purchase and some recommendations?
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Re: Subsonic 223 Ammo
chadtrg42, is on the hide. I'm pretty sure he can hook you up.
http://www.dallasreloads.com/
chadtrg42, is on the hide. I'm pretty sure he can hook you up.
http://www.dallasreloads.com/
Re: Subsonic 223 Ammo
I've found some TTI, But I think they are now out of business.
Subsonic .223 on an AR15 platform is not worth the money or effort.
I've found some TTI, But I think they are now out of business.
Subsonic .223 on an AR15 platform is not worth the money or effort.
Re: Subsonic 223 Ammo
Get a spikes conversion and run Aguila SSS for the same effect.
60 Gr sub sonic bullet.
I know the case is smaller but all the 5.56 sub is, is a 55-75 Gr subsonic.
As a general rule, I agree with BJ above me.
Get a spikes conversion and run Aguila SSS for the same effect.
60 Gr sub sonic bullet.
I know the case is smaller but all the 5.56 sub is, is a 55-75 Gr subsonic.
As a general rule, I agree with BJ above me.
Re: Subsonic 223 Ammo
I load my own 223, subsonic included. I think it is very much worth the time and expense. I would not buy it though as it is not worth it. I use speer 70 grain (6.5 gr H110) in my 1-8 twist AR-15. It is cheap and accurate enough. No way is subsonic in an supressed AR-15 less noisy than a suppressed 10/22 using subsonic ammo though. Not even close in my experience.
The speer 70 grain is much better than a 22lr upper shooting 40 grain at 1050 fps or 60 grain Aguila at 700 fps. Compare 171 ft-lbs from the 70 grain against 98 ft-lbs for the 40 grain and 65 ft-lbs for the 60 grain SSS.
Ranb
I load my own 223, subsonic included. I think it is very much worth the time and expense. I would not buy it though as it is not worth it. I use speer 70 grain (6.5 gr H110) in my 1-8 twist AR-15. It is cheap and accurate enough. No way is subsonic in an supressed AR-15 less noisy than a suppressed 10/22 using subsonic ammo though. Not even close in my experience.
The speer 70 grain is much better than a 22lr upper shooting 40 grain at 1050 fps or 60 grain Aguila at 700 fps. Compare 171 ft-lbs from the 70 grain against 98 ft-lbs for the 40 grain and 65 ft-lbs for the 60 grain SSS.
Ranb
Re: Subsonic 223 Ammo
My subsonic 223 does not cycle on my ar-15, not even with an empty buffer tube and cut down spring. I have read claims of subsonic 223 cycling a standard ar-15 rifle setup, but never seen in person or on video. Accuracy is 3 moa so far in my load development. I hope to get down to 2 or less.
Ranb
My subsonic 223 does not cycle on my ar-15, not even with an empty buffer tube and cut down spring. I have read claims of subsonic 223 cycling a standard ar-15 rifle setup, but never seen in person or on video. Accuracy is 3 moa so far in my load development. I hope to get down to 2 or less.
Ranb
Re: Subsonic 223 Ammo
In the .223 caliber rifle just use your silencer on a .22lr if you want subsonic. Your .223 bolt gun will be plenty quiet enough with full power ammo.
In larger bore rifles subsonic becomes worth the effort.
In the .223 caliber rifle just use your silencer on a .22lr if you want subsonic. Your .223 bolt gun will be plenty quiet enough with full power ammo.
In larger bore rifles subsonic becomes worth the effort.
Re: Subsonic 223 Ammo
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David Hineline</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In larger bore rifles subsonic becomes worth the effort. </div></div>
I agree. I shoot subsonic in 300/338/510 whispers (single shots) as well as the 458 socom on an ar-15. The socom is rather loud as the bore has to be large. Adding in the action noise makes it a bit loud for shooting without ear plugs. The 300 whisper in an ar-15 sounds ok too, not as good as the single shots though.
Ranb
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David Hineline</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In larger bore rifles subsonic becomes worth the effort. </div></div>
I agree. I shoot subsonic in 300/338/510 whispers (single shots) as well as the 458 socom on an ar-15. The socom is rather loud as the bore has to be large. Adding in the action noise makes it a bit loud for shooting without ear plugs. The 300 whisper in an ar-15 sounds ok too, not as good as the single shots though.
Ranb
Re: Subsonic 223 Ammo
FYI, this came up in a Google search. There seems to be no way to get to it on their site. Subsonic loads are listed on the bottom.
http://www.accuratepowder.com/data/PerPo...%20to%20187.pdf
Subsonic Loads***
IMI 55 FMJ S1250 -- -- S1250 3.5 1139 13,500** 2.230"
HDY 60 SP S1250 -- -- S1250 4.2 1111 19,100** 2.235"
HDY 75 HPBT S1250 -- -- S1250 4.5 1052 22,100** 2.255"
FYI, this came up in a Google search. There seems to be no way to get to it on their site. Subsonic loads are listed on the bottom.
http://www.accuratepowder.com/data/PerPo...%20to%20187.pdf
Subsonic Loads***
IMI 55 FMJ S1250 -- -- S1250 3.5 1139 13,500** 2.230"
HDY 60 SP S1250 -- -- S1250 4.2 1111 19,100** 2.235"
HDY 75 HPBT S1250 -- -- S1250 4.5 1052 22,100** 2.255"
Re: Subsonic 223 Ammo
Engel Ballistic. It does not cycle the action but it is apparently very good ammo. And pricey too.
Engel Ballistic. It does not cycle the action but it is apparently very good ammo. And pricey too.
