I have a 16.5" SPS Tactical in .308 that's pretty much stock other than a KRG X-ray chassis. I'd like to swap out the x-mark trigger for a 2 stage. The rifle is used primarily for target shooting with some hunting. I've looked at Timney, Huber, Tubb, Jard, Bix'n Andy. What would you guys consider the best overall? Is a relatively novice shooter going to be able to tell the difference between a $200 trigger and a $400 trigger?
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Suggestions for 2 stage R700 trigger
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I personally like the Huber. I have a few and will be buying another soon. I usually shoot an accuracy International so I wanted something similar. My hunting rifle has the first huber I ever bought and it has gotten much use. No issues at all. It has been in vey wet weather, snow and windy dusty conditions at my local range as well as some desert shooting.
I would suggest you give Diz or John a call if you decide to try one. That way you can figure out what you want for a first stage a what wall break you want.
Mine me is set at 1 pound fist stage with a 2 pound wall release.
Good hunting
I would suggest you give Diz or John a call if you decide to try one. That way you can figure out what you want for a first stage a what wall break you want.
Mine me is set at 1 pound fist stage with a 2 pound wall release.
Good hunting
I also have a huber. Diz is a gem of a guy and if you call him he will talk you through it. He was awesome to work with.
Mine is also a 1lb take up and 2lb pull second stage.
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Mine is also a 1lb take up and 2lb pull second stage.
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I've read reviews and watched videos on the Hubers and have seen nothing but good things. Not that I have an issue spending the money, I'm just questioning whether someone with my limited experience is really going to be able to tell the difference between a trigger like the Timney Calvin Elite and the Huber. The only bolt action rifles I've owned are my 700 with the x-mark and a savage 112 with the accutrigger. Somewhere between 2lb-3lb total pull weight seems about where I want to be.
I've had good luck with the Timney in my match rifle. About 3k rounds through it so far and its worked well. I've heard good things about the Huber but never tried one.
The huber is only a few bucks more then the CE. He dropped his prices about $100-$150 about a year ago I'm pretty sure.
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The Huber is close to double the price. $165 vs $295. If the extra $130 is worth it, I'll spend it. It's a drop in the bucket compared to the overall cost of the rifle. I'm still doubtful that someone with my limited experience could actually tell the difference, but if qualified people tell me the Huber is worth it, I'll go for it.
Any opinions/experience with the offerings from Bix'n Andy, Jard or Tubb?
Any opinions/experience with the offerings from Bix'n Andy, Jard or Tubb?
You will most likely be very happy with a CE for the money no doubt about it. Your not running a full custom build where you have 5k into it and want all of the "best" parts.
If your on a budget I would go for the CE personally. I almost bought one but got caught up in the full custom build and didn't want to always think I could have had a Huber lol. I also like having the bar wall before the trigger breaks and that was the difference for me.
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If your on a budget I would go for the CE personally. I almost bought one but got caught up in the full custom build and didn't want to always think I could have had a Huber lol. I also like having the bar wall before the trigger breaks and that was the difference for me.
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Personally, I would get something that is user adjustable. People's preferences change over time, and with the quality options of adjustable triggers available, I think it would be foolish not to get one.
Not necessarily on a budget, but like most things in this world there is a point of diminishing returns.
Anyone ever played with a Cadex DX2? Having very large hands (long fingers), I can really appreciate the ability to adjust the trigger location for and aft. The Tubb also has this feature.
Anyone ever played with a Cadex DX2? Having very large hands (long fingers), I can really appreciate the ability to adjust the trigger location for and aft. The Tubb also has this feature.
I have the DX2 on loan from a friend. It is actually a great trigger. Each stage is adjustable as well as the position of the trigger itself. Very clean break. Have it set around 3 pounds and it is perfect. Will end up buying it.
The Huber is a marvel. Mine is also 1lb take up and 2lb break. I'd have one in every rifle if I could afford it
I have two Timney CEs and am not overly impressed with them. Maybe i got unlucky. The flat shoed CE is much better than my curved but they both have too much takeup once reaching the second stage wall before they break and the flat trigger shoe has notable creep. They're usable but i was expecting better. While the Geisseles in my ARs are nowhere near as light they're a more appropriate 2-stage trigger than the CEs. The Timneys are very reminiscent of a nice double/single pistol trigger.
Any how huber is a staple in the 2-stage market, you can't go wrong with them if you're willing to spend the money. I'd not waste my time with Timney to be honest, they leave a lot to be desired. I want to try a B&A tacsport and hopefully Triggertech gets their 2-stage out soon.
Any how huber is a staple in the 2-stage market, you can't go wrong with them if you're willing to spend the money. I'd not waste my time with Timney to be honest, they leave a lot to be desired. I want to try a B&A tacsport and hopefully Triggertech gets their 2-stage out soon.
CgJackson are a great true 2 stage, the Huber is more of a set trigger then 2 stage. If u take up the set in the Huber, the bolt needs to be opened to release the "set". I've got 2 c.g. jacksons and a cadex 2 stage, i prefer the cg, but the cadex is extremely nice at ots price point
Looks like it's gonna be a Huber. The Cadex DX2 is intriguing also, but I couldn't find much in the way of reviews on it.
For clarification, when you guys say you have a 1lb 1st stage and 2lb 2nd stage are you saying it's a total pull weight of 2lb with half of it in the first stage or 1lb+2lb for a total pull weight of 3lb?
For clarification, when you guys say you have a 1lb 1st stage and 2lb 2nd stage are you saying it's a total pull weight of 2lb with half of it in the first stage or 1lb+2lb for a total pull weight of 3lb?
Personally i think the argument that the Huber is not a true 2-stage is pretty moot, this video summarizes my thoughts exactly. It makes little to no difference in my eyes, there are just little to no plausible scenarios at least that i can think of where the fact that it operates as a set stage is going to be an issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hai5jOqED4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hai5jOqED4k
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Thanks. Debating now between 2.5lb or 3lb. I'm assuming it's the same 1lb first stage either way?
I have the timney calvin elite 2 stage and it is fantastic.....
Honestly, hubber kind of strikes me as a nut.....and all that crap about "higher order mathmatics " is a load of BS......
And $400 is an ass load of money for a nom-adjustable trigger
Honestly, hubber kind of strikes me as a nut.....and all that crap about "higher order mathmatics " is a load of BS......
And $400 is an ass load of money for a nom-adjustable trigger
300$ now FWIW but i share your sentiment that's a lot of money, but 2-stages in general for 700s are more expensive. I wish my Timney(s) were fantastic.
I agree its a lot of money. one must decide if its worth it for the purpose of the build. there are a lot of good choices, I don't think you can really go wrong with any of them, unless you keep the factory one.
I'm very happy with the Calvin Elite. I've shot a Huber also and liked it, but not enough pulls to make a valid comparison.
IMHO, if your life would depend on it and $ is no object, the Tubb's trigger is the best there is.
Since you have been shooting your rifle for a while and not new to the game, I would suggest 1 + 1.5 = 2.5. Diz suggested a 3 for my 12 year old since it is his first time shooting a centerfire and is going to be his hunting rifle .
Give Diz a call at Huber. He can take your order over the phone. That way you can ask questions and he can give you answers direct. He great to talk with.
Give Diz a call at Huber. He can take your order over the phone. That way you can ask questions and he can give you answers direct. He great to talk with.
well I know it's semantics and generally it doesn't make a difference in most scenarios. If hunting, u have a limited window to make a shot, pull up to 2nd stage and then game moves into brush. If u have to relocate for shot ur Huber will be half cocked. For safety, you'd need to open and close bolt handle before moving. Not big issue, but it's not an imagined issue either. The Huber is an excellent trigger, right there with a cg Jackson, but it's not a true 2 stage. Op, Frank from bartlien did a pretty good review of the cadex. If i remember correctly he considered pretty equal in feel and break to an AIAT. Mine is a nice trigger, if I had to rank it is say it is similar to a giesselle dmr or match. I still prefer my trg22 trigger module in my tikka, then my tuned aiae(which is equal to my cg jacksons), and then my cadex. Keep in mind the trg trigger was 420 when available and the cg jackson is 320.
That's fair, i did think about hunting, but still didn't see it as that big of an issue. It's still only as dangerous as the operator. If the first stage is set, you've basically got a single stage trigger set at whatever pull weight, even then he showed there is still some spring pressure getting to that second stage. I do agree that it's a set stage trigger and not a true two stage but just don't see it as an issue so much as some do.
I've got a couple Timney CE's and four Bix 'n Andy Tacsports. I like the Tacsport since I can adjust the travel for the first stage as well as weight on both stages. You can't do that with the CE.
I've never tried the Huber so I can't compare.
I've never tried the Huber so I can't compare.
