Looking for a quality scope to put on a ruger m77 mark2 7mm Mag I just got from a buddy. I want to see what other are using on similar set up to take down deer, bear elk ect. Likes and dislikes of the scopes you currently use and what you think would be the best scope to put on the gun under $500. Looking to shoot no longer than 400 yards. Also would like for the scope to have good low light capability. I currently have a Vortex Viper 4x12x40 on my 30-06 and is a great scope in my opinion. I would have no problem putting another one of these scopes on any of my guns. I just want to look at other options before purchasing. Optical clarity is very important as well!
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Rifle Scopes Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
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Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
Check out the SS 3-9x42 http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-9x42-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P41044.aspx
Often you can find them on SWFA's sample list for $499.00
They are on there quite often - none today, but keep checking. For the money, you will be hard pressed to beat it - IMO.
http://www.samplelist.com/Riflescopes-C4.aspx#SWFA
Am running the Mil-Quad model on my AR and used it for deer hunting this past fall. Will probably own another one here soon to put on a new .308 deer hunting rifle.
3-9 should be plenty for out to 400 yds. The glass on the SS is very good in my humble opinion. It took me up to and past legal shooting times while out hunting, so no worries there.
SS scopes carry a warranty just as good as Vortex too.
Note that the SS 3-9 is a front focal plane scope compared to your viper. I happen to like FFP myself and can't see going back to second focal plane for my uses.
I'm sure others will chime in with other viable options as well, but for the money, I like SS.
Here's another option if you really like the Viper line. The model you now have is discontinued, so another may be hard to find.
http://cameralandny1.reachlocal.net/optics/vortex.pl?page=vortexviperhs4-16x44
Check out the SS 3-9x42 http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-9x42-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P41044.aspx
Often you can find them on SWFA's sample list for $499.00
They are on there quite often - none today, but keep checking. For the money, you will be hard pressed to beat it - IMO.
http://www.samplelist.com/Riflescopes-C4.aspx#SWFA
Am running the Mil-Quad model on my AR and used it for deer hunting this past fall. Will probably own another one here soon to put on a new .308 deer hunting rifle.
3-9 should be plenty for out to 400 yds. The glass on the SS is very good in my humble opinion. It took me up to and past legal shooting times while out hunting, so no worries there.
SS scopes carry a warranty just as good as Vortex too.
Note that the SS 3-9 is a front focal plane scope compared to your viper. I happen to like FFP myself and can't see going back to second focal plane for my uses.
I'm sure others will chime in with other viable options as well, but for the money, I like SS.
Here's another option if you really like the Viper line. The model you now have is discontinued, so another may be hard to find.
http://cameralandny1.reachlocal.net/optics/vortex.pl?page=vortexviperhs4-16x44
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
I personally would check out a Nikon Monarch. Great glass for hunting scopes.
I personally would check out a Nikon Monarch. Great glass for hunting scopes.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
I prefer scopes without all the bells and whistles for hunting, I like to keep it simple and not have to mess with a bunch of knobs before I shoot at an animal.
That said, I think the Nikon Buckmaster line of optics is great for hunting, its a no frills scope with good glass.
I prefer scopes without all the bells and whistles for hunting, I like to keep it simple and not have to mess with a bunch of knobs before I shoot at an animal.
That said, I think the Nikon Buckmaster line of optics is great for hunting, its a no frills scope with good glass.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
I would go with the Nikon Monarch 3-12x42SF . Nikon's Spot On technology puts them just above the rest in this price range. I have used the BDC reticle out to 500 yards with a .308. Coupled with the Spot On technology, it works great!
Chase B.
I would go with the Nikon Monarch 3-12x42SF . Nikon's Spot On technology puts them just above the rest in this price range. I have used the BDC reticle out to 500 yards with a .308. Coupled with the Spot On technology, it works great!
Chase B.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
Does anyone honestly like the Nikon BDC reticle? There are a bunch of companies now days who offer programs similar to the Spot-on, but with better reticle options.
Does anyone honestly like the Nikon BDC reticle? There are a bunch of companies now days who offer programs similar to the Spot-on, but with better reticle options.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
I my self do not care for the BDC in the nikon. I like the have cross hairs so i know exactly where the bullet is going. The bullet drop rets that i do like are the rapid z in the zeiss. Leupolds varmint ret. Swaroski brs nightforce has a good one. Thats to name a few i have had and do like.
As for my 2 cents on the OP nikon has some good glass for the money. The monarch with the duplex would make for a strong hunting scope. The zeiss dose have better low light clarity but they do cost more. The vortex viper is a good scope as well i dont think you would be disspointed with any of the three. My self i would go with the zeiss.
I my self do not care for the BDC in the nikon. I like the have cross hairs so i know exactly where the bullet is going. The bullet drop rets that i do like are the rapid z in the zeiss. Leupolds varmint ret. Swaroski brs nightforce has a good one. Thats to name a few i have had and do like.
As for my 2 cents on the OP nikon has some good glass for the money. The monarch with the duplex would make for a strong hunting scope. The zeiss dose have better low light clarity but they do cost more. The vortex viper is a good scope as well i dont think you would be disspointed with any of the three. My self i would go with the zeiss.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
I do not like bdc reticles as the circles cover up too much of the target. I do like hash marks as posted above with the zeiss rapid z, leupold varmint or tmr, etc.
I don't care for a huge fancy scope for hunting as it adds extra weight and more shit to complicate things in the field. I like the Zeiss conquests and Nikon monarchs. Can find both in your price range.
I do not like bdc reticles as the circles cover up too much of the target. I do like hash marks as posted above with the zeiss rapid z, leupold varmint or tmr, etc.
I don't care for a huge fancy scope for hunting as it adds extra weight and more shit to complicate things in the field. I like the Zeiss conquests and Nikon monarchs. Can find both in your price range.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Beef</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bushnell elite, have a 4-12 its clear sun up to sundown and only fogged once partially at zero degrees when I screwed up and breathed on it, took a bit to clear up. </div></div>
I have one of these on my Ruger M77 MK2, its a spectacular scope and has served me for many hunting trips with absolutely no problems.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Beef</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bushnell elite, have a 4-12 its clear sun up to sundown and only fogged once partially at zero degrees when I screwed up and breathed on it, took a bit to clear up. </div></div>
I have one of these on my Ruger M77 MK2, its a spectacular scope and has served me for many hunting trips with absolutely no problems.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
check out the leupold CDS scopes. there are more complicated options out there, but for most guys this line of scopes should cover you.
check out the leupold CDS scopes. there are more complicated options out there, but for most guys this line of scopes should cover you.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$.</div></div>
Yep!!!! I have 5 of them. For the money the glass can't be beat!
Eddie
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$.</div></div>
Yep!!!! I have 5 of them. For the money the glass can't be beat!
Eddie
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Paladin 01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't buy until you have checked out Shepard scopes. </div></div>
Shepard makes a good quality scope as well with good glass. I would still stick with zeiss though.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Paladin 01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't buy until you have checked out Shepard scopes. </div></div>
Shepard makes a good quality scope as well with good glass. I would still stick with zeiss though.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
Under 400 yards, under $500, for a 7 Mag, IMO you couldn't go wrong with a Leupold FX3 6x42. Super clear, bright, and much larger eyebox than the Viper 4-12.
Under 400 yards, under $500, for a 7 Mag, IMO you couldn't go wrong with a Leupold FX3 6x42. Super clear, bright, and much larger eyebox than the Viper 4-12.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
Or a VX3 2.5-8x36 or 3.5-10x40. Can even pick up the 3.5-10x40 with the CDS dial for $499 from Cabelas right now...
Or a VX3 2.5-8x36 or 3.5-10x40. Can even pick up the 3.5-10x40 with the CDS dial for $499 from Cabelas right now...
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
http://swfa.com/Leupold-6x42-FX-3-Riflescope-P12758.aspx
Very bright in low light low enough power to get onto target quickly and hand hold to shoot while stalking. Balistic reticle zero the X at 200 test the dots below to see how they are at 300, 400, 500 at the heavy part of the post.
Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Riflescope
Stock # - LEU66820
•Matte
•Long Range Duplex
•1"
•Xtended Twilight Lens System
•Includes FREE Lens Pen & Alumina Threaded Lens Covers
$429.95
http://swfa.com/Leupold-6x42-FX-3-Riflescope-P12758.aspx
Very bright in low light low enough power to get onto target quickly and hand hold to shoot while stalking. Balistic reticle zero the X at 200 test the dots below to see how they are at 300, 400, 500 at the heavy part of the post.
Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Riflescope
Stock # - LEU66820
•Matte
•Long Range Duplex
•1"
•Xtended Twilight Lens System
•Includes FREE Lens Pen & Alumina Threaded Lens Covers
$429.95
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Riflescope
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The IOR 4x and 6X models are much better than the leupold fixed powers (I've had lots of both).
If he wants to go Leupold route the VX-R is the best bang for the buck right now.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Urimaginaryfrnd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Riflescope
</div></div>
The IOR 4x and 6X models are much better than the leupold fixed powers (I've had lots of both).
If he wants to go Leupold route the VX-R is the best bang for the buck right now.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tansinator</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$.</div></div>
Yep!!!! I have 5 of them. For the money the glass can't be beat!
</div></div>
I will have to disagree. $500 & under for a pure hunting scope, I would pick one of the Minox ZA5 models. It's no Zeiss Victory or Swarovski Z6 but excellent value for the money. MUCH, MUCH better than Vortex Viper, especially in low light.
2-10x50 or 3-15x50 would be my picks but 2-10x40 and 3-15x42 are nice as well. 4-20x50 is probably a bit too much magnification for big game.
http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/minox.pl?page=minoxoptics
$500 is just a little short to move up to something like Kahles but it could be possible. I picked up a used Helia C 2.5-10x50 for $520 from the Hide (and a demo 1.5-6x42 for $600 from SWFA). It's not as good as my Victory Diavari 3-12x56 but then again, nothing really is.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tansinator</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$.</div></div>
Yep!!!! I have 5 of them. For the money the glass can't be beat!
</div></div>
I will have to disagree. $500 & under for a pure hunting scope, I would pick one of the Minox ZA5 models. It's no Zeiss Victory or Swarovski Z6 but excellent value for the money. MUCH, MUCH better than Vortex Viper, especially in low light.
2-10x50 or 3-15x50 would be my picks but 2-10x40 and 3-15x42 are nice as well. 4-20x50 is probably a bit too much magnification for big game.
http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/minox.pl?page=minoxoptics
$500 is just a little short to move up to something like Kahles but it could be possible. I picked up a used Helia C 2.5-10x50 for $520 from the Hide (and a demo 1.5-6x42 for $600 from SWFA). It's not as good as my Victory Diavari 3-12x56 but then again, nothing really is.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: limbhanga</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also would like for the scope to have good low light capability. I currently have a Vortex Viper 4x12x40 on my 30-06 and is a great scope in my opinion.</div></div>
My short low light review of Swaro Z3, Burris Euro Diamond, Vortex Viper PST, Weaver Tactical and Minox ZA5.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sami</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was at the lease alone this weekend so I decided to take some scopes with me and do a little un-scientific low light comparison between them. I was only looking for clarity at low light conditions at 40 yards. Scopes were compared at 12x and at 10x (Burris only goes to 10x). Higher magnification didn't seem to improve clarity, at least on such a short distance so 12x was the base line while Burris was referenced to others in 10x magnification.
Scopes tested, name and price paid (total out the door):
Swarovski Z3 4-12x50, $870 (new)
Burris Euro Diamond 2.5-10x50, $549 (demo unit)
Minox ZA5 4-20x50, $399 (demo unit, black friday special)
Weaver Tactical 3-15x50, $550 (used)
Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50, $750 (used)
My test panel:
First test was done with a little helper light on the panel to get a baseline on how the scopes performed on better light conditions.
These are all my opinions as I was just trying to get the picture as clear and sharp as possible. I resisted the temptation to upgrade scopes with a more pleasant view and easier eye relief (one scopes is above all in that regard and some are worse than others but that was not the goal for this test).
First round results:
1. Burris
2. Swarovski
3. Minox
4. Weaver
5. Vortex
All 5 scopes performed quite well with the little help from the flash light. Differences were minimal and to my surprise I was able to get the Burris to focus on the test panel the best. YMMV of course. It is also worth to note that the top 2 don't have parallax adjustment.
Next up was the same panel without flash light.
The tables turned here a little bit.
1. Swarovski
2. Minox
3. Weaver
4. Burris
5. Vortex
This chart might indicate that the biggest "loser" was Burris which dropped from top to #4. In my observations the biggest drop in quality was however from the Vortex. All top 4 still managed to get quite a clear picture while on the Vortex the drop in PQ was quite drastic. Not a lousy performance but in this company it was noticeable. The biggest surprise to me was Weaver which seemed like it improved its position when the lights got dimmer. Not enough to surpass Minox which was quite close to Swarovski. Surprise to me since the Weaver doesn't have the "WOW" factor when looking through daylight.
Overall all scopes performed well, there aren't really any losers in this group as all are very good scopes. All have their strong points and weak points.
<span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">Swarovski Z3 4-12x50</span></span>
If you're looking for a basic hunting scope with no frills, then Swarovski doesn't really have many weak points other than maybe price. It is light and very easy on the eyes in both picture quality (not only sharpness) and eye relief.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Minox ZA5 4-20x50</span>
Minox is a very close performer to Swaro but I found it to be a little picky about eye position. This is your scope if you're looking for excellent glass at a great price. Also available in 3-15x50.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Burris Euro Diamond 2.5-10x50</span>
Burris was a minor disappointment in low light but it has a good price point since it is a close-out model in addition to having a lighted reticle. Make no mistake, the low light performance is still plenty good to benefit from lighted reticle. Also available in 3-12x50.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Weaver Tactical 3-15x50</span>
Weaver has combined good glass with tactical features like first focal plane MRAD reticle and tactical turrets. It is of course a heavy scope so not the one for your light weight rig.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50</span>
While I rate the glass on Vortex the lowest of this group in low light, I do think it is a great scope that offers excellent features for its price. FFP, MRAD, zerostop etc. I do think its reticle design is one of the best I have seen, minimizing the negatives of having a FFP scope. It's also a very attractive looking scope if that matters (and yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder of course). </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: limbhanga</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also would like for the scope to have good low light capability. I currently have a Vortex Viper 4x12x40 on my 30-06 and is a great scope in my opinion.</div></div>
My short low light review of Swaro Z3, Burris Euro Diamond, Vortex Viper PST, Weaver Tactical and Minox ZA5.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sami</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was at the lease alone this weekend so I decided to take some scopes with me and do a little un-scientific low light comparison between them. I was only looking for clarity at low light conditions at 40 yards. Scopes were compared at 12x and at 10x (Burris only goes to 10x). Higher magnification didn't seem to improve clarity, at least on such a short distance so 12x was the base line while Burris was referenced to others in 10x magnification.
Scopes tested, name and price paid (total out the door):
Swarovski Z3 4-12x50, $870 (new)
Burris Euro Diamond 2.5-10x50, $549 (demo unit)
Minox ZA5 4-20x50, $399 (demo unit, black friday special)
Weaver Tactical 3-15x50, $550 (used)
Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50, $750 (used)
My test panel:
First test was done with a little helper light on the panel to get a baseline on how the scopes performed on better light conditions.
These are all my opinions as I was just trying to get the picture as clear and sharp as possible. I resisted the temptation to upgrade scopes with a more pleasant view and easier eye relief (one scopes is above all in that regard and some are worse than others but that was not the goal for this test).
First round results:
1. Burris
2. Swarovski
3. Minox
4. Weaver
5. Vortex
All 5 scopes performed quite well with the little help from the flash light. Differences were minimal and to my surprise I was able to get the Burris to focus on the test panel the best. YMMV of course. It is also worth to note that the top 2 don't have parallax adjustment.
Next up was the same panel without flash light.
The tables turned here a little bit.
1. Swarovski
2. Minox
3. Weaver
4. Burris
5. Vortex
This chart might indicate that the biggest "loser" was Burris which dropped from top to #4. In my observations the biggest drop in quality was however from the Vortex. All top 4 still managed to get quite a clear picture while on the Vortex the drop in PQ was quite drastic. Not a lousy performance but in this company it was noticeable. The biggest surprise to me was Weaver which seemed like it improved its position when the lights got dimmer. Not enough to surpass Minox which was quite close to Swarovski. Surprise to me since the Weaver doesn't have the "WOW" factor when looking through daylight.
Overall all scopes performed well, there aren't really any losers in this group as all are very good scopes. All have their strong points and weak points.
<span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">Swarovski Z3 4-12x50</span></span>
If you're looking for a basic hunting scope with no frills, then Swarovski doesn't really have many weak points other than maybe price. It is light and very easy on the eyes in both picture quality (not only sharpness) and eye relief.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Minox ZA5 4-20x50</span>
Minox is a very close performer to Swaro but I found it to be a little picky about eye position. This is your scope if you're looking for excellent glass at a great price. Also available in 3-15x50.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Burris Euro Diamond 2.5-10x50</span>
Burris was a minor disappointment in low light but it has a good price point since it is a close-out model in addition to having a lighted reticle. Make no mistake, the low light performance is still plenty good to benefit from lighted reticle. Also available in 3-12x50.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Weaver Tactical 3-15x50</span>
Weaver has combined good glass with tactical features like first focal plane MRAD reticle and tactical turrets. It is of course a heavy scope so not the one for your light weight rig.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50</span>
While I rate the glass on Vortex the lowest of this group in low light, I do think it is a great scope that offers excellent features for its price. FFP, MRAD, zerostop etc. I do think its reticle design is one of the best I have seen, minimizing the negatives of having a FFP scope. It's also a very attractive looking scope if that matters (and yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder of course). </div></div>
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
If you are looking for a scope in the 3-9 range Cabela's has the Bushnell Elite 4200 3-9x40 scopes on clearance for $199.
I bought 2 with free shipping. I don't think you can beat that scopes quality for anywhere near that kind of money.
I have read their glass is on par with Zeiss Conquest glass. I don't own a Zeiss, but that is what was reported from Optics Talk with their scope review.
Nevertheless, I am very impressed with the scope's quality.
If you are looking for a scope in the 3-9 range Cabela's has the Bushnell Elite 4200 3-9x40 scopes on clearance for $199.
I bought 2 with free shipping. I don't think you can beat that scopes quality for anywhere near that kind of money.
I have read their glass is on par with Zeiss Conquest glass. I don't own a Zeiss, but that is what was reported from Optics Talk with their scope review.
Nevertheless, I am very impressed with the scope's quality.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
That Bushnell is probably the best value for $199 right now. Even better when they had them for $149. It's not quite Conquest quality but close enough to say it is damn good glass for the money. I have had several Elite's, from 3200 to 6500. 4200 and 6500 are very good while 3200 is still adequate scope for most hunters.
That Bushnell is probably the best value for $199 right now. Even better when they had them for $149. It's not quite Conquest quality but close enough to say it is damn good glass for the money. I have had several Elite's, from 3200 to 6500. 4200 and 6500 are very good while 3200 is still adequate scope for most hunters.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
Bushnell Elite....3200 or 4200...rainguard is a real plus for me...great lowlight performance
Bushnell Elite....3200 or 4200...rainguard is a real plus for me...great lowlight performance
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$. </div></div>
If you like the Zeiss Conquest 3-9 at $500, I might also throw in a consideration for a Trijicon Accupoint 3-9 cause the always on illumination is sort of nice.
If you're a Cabela's member, you can get a brand new duplex w/amber dot for $499 right now.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$. </div></div>
If you like the Zeiss Conquest 3-9 at $500, I might also throw in a consideration for a Trijicon Accupoint 3-9 cause the always on illumination is sort of nice.
If you're a Cabela's member, you can get a brand new duplex w/amber dot for $499 right now.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sami</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tansinator</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$.</div></div>
Yep!!!! I have 5 of them. For the money the glass can't be beat!
</div></div>
I will have to disagree. $500 & under for a pure hunting scope, I would pick one of the Minox ZA5 models. It's no Zeiss Victory or Swarovski Z6 but excellent value for the money. MUCH, MUCH better than Vortex Viper, especially in low light.
2-10x50 or 3-15x50 would be my picks but 2-10x40 and 3-15x42 are nice as well. 4-20x50 is probably a bit too much magnification for big game.
http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/minox.pl?page=minoxoptics
$500 is just a little short to move up to something like Kahles but it could be possible. I picked up a used Helia C 2.5-10x50 for $520 from the Hide (and a demo 1.5-6x42 for $600 from SWFA). It's not as good as my Victory Diavari 3-12x56 but then again, nothing really is.</div></div>
Your test has no merit to your response. We said nothing of the Vortex. We were talking about the Zeiss Conquest. You did not even test it. Disagree all you want but compare a Zeiss Conquest to your Minox and then give your opinion.
Eddie
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sami</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tansinator</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$.</div></div>
Yep!!!! I have 5 of them. For the money the glass can't be beat!
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I will have to disagree. $500 & under for a pure hunting scope, I would pick one of the Minox ZA5 models. It's no Zeiss Victory or Swarovski Z6 but excellent value for the money. MUCH, MUCH better than Vortex Viper, especially in low light.
2-10x50 or 3-15x50 would be my picks but 2-10x40 and 3-15x42 are nice as well. 4-20x50 is probably a bit too much magnification for big game.
http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/minox.pl?page=minoxoptics
$500 is just a little short to move up to something like Kahles but it could be possible. I picked up a used Helia C 2.5-10x50 for $520 from the Hide (and a demo 1.5-6x42 for $600 from SWFA). It's not as good as my Victory Diavari 3-12x56 but then again, nothing really is.</div></div>
Your test has no merit to your response. We said nothing of the Vortex. We were talking about the Zeiss Conquest. You did not even test it. Disagree all you want but compare a Zeiss Conquest to your Minox and then give your opinion.
Eddie
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hamstur</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$. </div></div>
If you like the Zeiss Conquest 3-9 at $500, I might also throw in a consideration for a Trijicon Accupoint 3-9 cause the always on illumination is sort of nice.
If you're a Cabela's member, you can get a brand new duplex w/amber dot for $499 right now.</div></div>
I'd have to agree with this. The illumination on the accupoint would definitely be helpful on hunting scope. But picking up a zeiss for around $450-500 is probably the way to go.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hamstur</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$. </div></div>
If you like the Zeiss Conquest 3-9 at $500, I might also throw in a consideration for a Trijicon Accupoint 3-9 cause the always on illumination is sort of nice.
If you're a Cabela's member, you can get a brand new duplex w/amber dot for $499 right now.</div></div>
I'd have to agree with this. The illumination on the accupoint would definitely be helpful on hunting scope. But picking up a zeiss for around $450-500 is probably the way to go.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tansinator</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sami</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tansinator</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$.</div></div>
Yep!!!! I have 5 of them. For the money the glass can't be beat!
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I will have to disagree. $500 & under for a pure hunting scope, I would pick one of the Minox ZA5 models. It's no Zeiss Victory or Swarovski Z6 but excellent value for the money. MUCH, MUCH better than Vortex Viper, especially in low light.
2-10x50 or 3-15x50 would be my picks but 2-10x40 and 3-15x42 are nice as well. 4-20x50 is probably a bit too much magnification for big game.
http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/minox.pl?page=minoxoptics
$500 is just a little short to move up to something like Kahles but it could be possible. I picked up a used Helia C 2.5-10x50 for $520 from the Hide (and a demo 1.5-6x42 for $600 from SWFA). It's not as good as my Victory Diavari 3-12x56 but then again, nothing really is.</div></div>
Your test has no merit to your response. We said nothing of the Vortex. We were talking about the Zeiss Conquest. You did not even test it. Disagree all you want but compare a Zeiss Conquest to your Minox and then give your opinion.
Eddie
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"we" did say vortex viper. See the op. Conquest is a great scope and I have compared them. For the money I'll take the za5.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tansinator</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sami</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tansinator</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$.</div></div>
Yep!!!! I have 5 of them. For the money the glass can't be beat!
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I will have to disagree. $500 & under for a pure hunting scope, I would pick one of the Minox ZA5 models. It's no Zeiss Victory or Swarovski Z6 but excellent value for the money. MUCH, MUCH better than Vortex Viper, especially in low light.
2-10x50 or 3-15x50 would be my picks but 2-10x40 and 3-15x42 are nice as well. 4-20x50 is probably a bit too much magnification for big game.
http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/minox.pl?page=minoxoptics
$500 is just a little short to move up to something like Kahles but it could be possible. I picked up a used Helia C 2.5-10x50 for $520 from the Hide (and a demo 1.5-6x42 for $600 from SWFA). It's not as good as my Victory Diavari 3-12x56 but then again, nothing really is.</div></div>
Your test has no merit to your response. We said nothing of the Vortex. We were talking about the Zeiss Conquest. You did not even test it. Disagree all you want but compare a Zeiss Conquest to your Minox and then give your opinion.
Eddie
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"we" did say vortex viper. See the op. Conquest is a great scope and I have compared them. For the money I'll take the za5.
Re: Suggestions on a good hunting scope?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Elnino31</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hamstur</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$. </div></div>
If you like the Zeiss Conquest 3-9 at $500, I might also throw in a consideration for a Trijicon Accupoint 3-9 cause the always on illumination is sort of nice.
If you're a Cabela's member, you can get a brand new duplex w/amber dot for $499 right now.</div></div>
I'd have to agree with this. The illumination on the accupoint would definitely be helpful on hunting scope. But picking up a zeiss for around $450-500 is probably the way to go. </div></div>
Looks like someone posted a Conquest duplex for $350 shipped...
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3030491&gonew=1#UNREAD
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Elnino31</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hamstur</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zeiss Conquest 3-9 rapid z = 500$. </div></div>
If you like the Zeiss Conquest 3-9 at $500, I might also throw in a consideration for a Trijicon Accupoint 3-9 cause the always on illumination is sort of nice.
If you're a Cabela's member, you can get a brand new duplex w/amber dot for $499 right now.</div></div>
I'd have to agree with this. The illumination on the accupoint would definitely be helpful on hunting scope. But picking up a zeiss for around $450-500 is probably the way to go. </div></div>
Looks like someone posted a Conquest duplex for $350 shipped...
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3030491&gonew=1#UNREAD
