Re: Super Glue and .22..?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dust_Remover</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Josh Smith</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The nail polish waterproofing thing got me thinking again.
You see, I was thinking about the .45acp cartridge, as I mentioned. Then I got to thinking about the .45 G.A.P. and how it achieves basically the same thing as the A.C.P. in about the same strength package by utilizing higher chamber pressures - 100 years of powder and metallurgy advancements made this possible.
Then I got to thinking about the .22LR and the .22 Magnum. The .22 Magnum developed from an older cartridge (.22 Winchester Rimfire, I think?) designed to keep pressures down, but to also give more speed.
So then I got to thinking, with the metallurgy and powder advances, why can't we just raise the pressures of the .22LR a bit and get around 2000fps with a true jacketed bullet? Winchester was doing this at one time, only the lack of a jacket lead to bad leading problems, and CCI is doing almost the same thing with the Velocitor right now.
The only weakness would be the balloon head. It might blow even with proper support.
I think an all-steel bolt gun like a Savage or CZ should be able to contain the pressures, though. Full case support and all that.
Wouldn't try it in an aluminum receiver.
It's all academic right now. But I think you see where I'm going here... Though the Epperson Cricket may be the better round with which to experiment. Easier to load.
Josh </div></div>
Yes, with the technology advances that we have now there are a lot of really cool things that we "could" do with the 22 cartridge, however it'll never happen. The only thing that will happen is a new catridge very similar to the .22lr will come out, and it'll do those cool thing you would like to see, however it won't chamber in a .22lr rifle. The reason for this is that the .22lr has been around for a REALLY LOOOOONNNNGGG time. And with being around a while, there comes a lot of rifles chambered for that round. Some of those rifles are 50+ years old that are still getting shot to this day. Any ammunition made today that bears the .22lr name, has to be safe in the oldest of firearms that are safe for use.
A great example of this is the .45-70govt. Any factory ammunition (with few exceptions) have to produce ammunition which will be safe to use in the old 'trap door' rifles The .45-70 can be loaded HAWT, and can be a heck of a powerhouse rifle that can take down just about anything on the planet, and the rifles chambered for it are far cheaper than those of the likes of .458mag, lott, ect.. The exception that I mentioned refers to some specialty ammo manufacturers that are producing hot loads with very pronounced warnings to be used only in certain makes of rifles. The easy way around the 'trap door' rifle issue was a new cartridge that did all the cool things that you can do with a .45-70, but won't chamber in a .45-70, and that became the .450Marlin. If the manufactures thought there was a market for what you want, they would make it, but it would have to be something that wouldn't chamber in a .22lr rifle of any make or model.
Branden </div></div>
Brandon,
This is the BEST dissertation on the subject I've yet to read. Thank you!
Josh
