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Suppressors Suppressor Mount

PearlWhiteGT

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I recently purchased a Diligent Defense Enticer S as my first can. I plan on running it on a few different rifles from time to time. Will mainly be used on my AR10 308 but would like the option on running it on my AR 6.8 SPC and 308 Bolt Rifle.

Since I’d like to use it on different rifles should I use a suppressor mount like the Rearden Atlas or can I just run it direct thread on all 3 rifles? Which option would have better return to zero? Any advice would be much appreciated.
 
If you have the ability to run durect thread, nothing wrong with that, I do that a lot. If you want to spend the money and have a QD installed on each rifle and on your can you can go that route. Nothing wrong with a little elbow grease when screwing on a can.
 
Do you plan to shoot the other guns unsuppressed ever? One problem with direct thread is that unless every gun has a can, you either have to put the can or a muzzle device on and off every time.
 
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I would go with the Rearden Atlas style mount. It should be just as repeatable as direct thread and also provide you with some protection for the muzzle/crown and the benefit of a brake or flash hider when not using the suppressor.
 
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I’m thinking of going with Diligent Defense Zilch Hub mount and their muzzle device.

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Either will accomplish what you seek.

Almost all my rifles have some sort of a Rearden MD, and the return to zero is excellent.

I also have a rifle that's direct thread to the suppressor, and that works great as well.

Advantage of dedicated muzzle device (MD) is that it protects the barrels threads and shoulder, and gives you a MD to use in the case of shooting unsuppressed.
 
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What’s preferred, a brake or a flash hider? Any pros and cons to them?
All depends on what you’re doing. A brake is generally going to be “better” for the can as far as erosion (and possibly suppression) goes, especially on an SBR. But, I have no desire to shoot a 10.5 with a brake unsuppressed. A brake on a longer rifle or a bolt gun is obviously a different story. So it will come down to if you plan to shoot it much unsuppressed, and what length barrel.
 
I really like how many manufacturers have embraced the rearden atlas style, tons of options out there. Fpm gun works has some cool and relatively inexpensive muzzle devices if you want to outfit a bunch of rifles and not pay a hundred bucks barrel
 
The Enticer S, like a lot of cans that came out of the last few calendar years, is HUB/Bravo (1.375x24, 1-3/8x24, whatever) threaded so the good thing is you have a lot of options.

You'd have to run adapters anyway to direct thread onto 1/2, 5/8 or 3/4 threads anyway. I really like the JMAC 360HD muzzle devices that are externally HUB threaded, they come in a lot of main internal thread patterns including AKs and are overbored. Never had an issue with non-concentricity.

You can also do Keymo or Rearden taper mounts as well, you have a lot of flexibility being able to do HUB adapters inside of the Enticer too. I've only ever used KAC, Surefire, and direct thread JMAC HUB so I can't say much on those other options other than they're typically cheaper.

Return to zero really depends. Every can has a POI shift depending on a lot of different factors, the suppressor ID, barrel length, suppressor design, ammo. For the most part it's repeatable, and far more exaggerated on a cold bore. As long as you have a quality mount and you are attaching it to the specified torque or amount of turns, you'll be fine 99% of the time.

For instance, on my PS90 SBR 10.4 5.7 all of my Surefire cans RC2, SB2, RC3, 300SPS shoot maybe 1 inch low for the first few rounds at 25 yards. With my KAC alphabet soup can on a M110A3 upper, I'm low .4 mils compared to a non-suppressed zero and then it settles around .2 mils at 100 yard. There's somewhat of a science to it, but that's beyond me, and something to figure out. That said, they have repeatable index mounting.

As far as flash hider versus MB. It depends. I've heard colloquial evidence that the MB acts as a "sacrificial baffle" to prevent erosion. But it's not something you'd be able to definitively measure in my mind. Some mounts have labyrinth seals or other geometry to help, such as using a Warcomp versus a 3-Prong or MB from Surefire, it can make first round flash and overall sound quality different.
 
I’m a big fan of the Griffin Armament Taper Mount. There are other good options, but this one adds very little length and has been solid in every way. I don’t like direct thread, it always comes loose.