For those of you who have a Surefire X300 mounted on an M4 Pic rail, I'm curious if it's necessary to completely remove the light from the rail in order to effect a simple battery change.
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Surefire X300 weapon light question
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Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
Yes you would have to take the light off of the rail to change the batteries.
Yes you would have to take the light off of the rail to change the batteries.
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
I appreciate the quick response, Chuck - even if your answer might not have been the one I was hoping for.
I appreciate the quick response, Chuck - even if your answer might not have been the one I was hoping for.
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
Taking the light off isn't a difficult thing, why is the 5 seconds needed to remove the light of consequence?
Taking the light off isn't a difficult thing, why is the 5 seconds needed to remove the light of consequence?
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
I'm also curious why needing to remove the light to change the battery matters. I'll also add that while being a great pisol light and having the ability to mount on a carbine it is not the preferred light for a carbine.
I'm also curious why needing to remove the light to change the battery matters. I'll also add that while being a great pisol light and having the ability to mount on a carbine it is not the preferred light for a carbine.
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm also curious why needing to remove the light to change the battery matters. I'll also add that while being a great pisol light and having the ability to mount on a carbine it is not the preferred light for a carbine. </div></div>
Might I ask what, in your opinion, is a better choice for a carbine light, and why?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm also curious why needing to remove the light to change the battery matters. I'll also add that while being a great pisol light and having the ability to mount on a carbine it is not the preferred light for a carbine. </div></div>
Might I ask what, in your opinion, is a better choice for a carbine light, and why?
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
A lot of guys love the X300 on a carbine at the 12 o clock position. If you are going to run it on your carbine I would use the locking plate that it comes with but it is not really necessary.
I have been running a X300 for almost 3 years now and they are pretty darn tough. The one that I use the most has at least 3K rounds through it and it is not babied. I run it on my Glock 21 and 23 and the only issue I have had with it is after a lot of shooting you have to take a cloth with some alcohol on it and clean the glass.
It will easily light up a target at 100 yards.
Chuck
A lot of guys love the X300 on a carbine at the 12 o clock position. If you are going to run it on your carbine I would use the locking plate that it comes with but it is not really necessary.
I have been running a X300 for almost 3 years now and they are pretty darn tough. The one that I use the most has at least 3K rounds through it and it is not babied. I run it on my Glock 21 and 23 and the only issue I have had with it is after a lot of shooting you have to take a cloth with some alcohol on it and clean the glass.
It will easily light up a target at 100 yards.
Chuck
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
I own an x300 and love it, on my pistols.
As for a good arguement on why not to have one on a carbine is simply the functionality of turning it on or off. It is a bit awkward.
A task performed much better by something like surefires scout light.
Another light I also own. Or just 6p in a mount, easy though not intended to resist the shock of a carbine over time.
So if it's a light your getting specifically to mount on your carbine there are better choices out there for that task.
If it's something primarily for a pistol that will occassionaly go on a carbine have at it.
I own an x300 and love it, on my pistols.
As for a good arguement on why not to have one on a carbine is simply the functionality of turning it on or off. It is a bit awkward.
A task performed much better by something like surefires scout light.
Another light I also own. Or just 6p in a mount, easy though not intended to resist the shock of a carbine over time.
So if it's a light your getting specifically to mount on your carbine there are better choices out there for that task.
If it's something primarily for a pistol that will occassionaly go on a carbine have at it.
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
Personally, I prefer the CAA foregrip with an LED 6P in it, that's what runs on my M4.
I've tried the X300 but prefer the activation of a foregrip light over the frogrip AND an X300 with the rocker.
I have an X300 and really like it, great light, but not my first choice for a carbine.
It's all personal prference.
Personally, I prefer the CAA foregrip with an LED 6P in it, that's what runs on my M4.
I've tried the X300 but prefer the activation of a foregrip light over the frogrip AND an X300 with the rocker.
I have an X300 and really like it, great light, but not my first choice for a carbine.
It's all personal prference.
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Get the Surefire M910A vertical foregrip It blows all the other "flashlights" away in performance the batterys load from the bottom .It makes the CAA look like a toy.It was built for the m4 not some rube goldberg adapter. I.M.O. Its the only REAL tactial light all others just give the enemy a target to aim for.
It's not cheap but if you need a REAL light its well worth it. I bet my life on it .
Scot
Get the Surefire M910A vertical foregrip It blows all the other "flashlights" away in performance the batterys load from the bottom .It makes the CAA look like a toy.It was built for the m4 not some rube goldberg adapter. I.M.O. Its the only REAL tactial light all others just give the enemy a target to aim for.
It's not cheap but if you need a REAL light its well worth it. I bet my life on it .
Scot
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
I run the X300 on all my carbines at the 12 o’clock. I believe it is the best option by far especially for CQB work. I find it very easy to run and don’t have any issue with turning it on or off but then again I have big paws.
What I like best about this set up is the fact that it is truly ambidextrous and you don’t have to expose more of yourself to clear cover or concealment as you do when your light is at 3 or 9 0’clock.
The only questionable downside might be whether it has enough light for long outdoor illumination if that is something you’re in need of.
I run the X300 on all my carbines at the 12 o’clock. I believe it is the best option by far especially for CQB work. I find it very easy to run and don’t have any issue with turning it on or off but then again I have big paws.
What I like best about this set up is the fact that it is truly ambidextrous and you don’t have to expose more of yourself to clear cover or concealment as you do when your light is at 3 or 9 0’clock.
The only questionable downside might be whether it has enough light for long outdoor illumination if that is something you’re in need of.
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
I also run my x300 on the 12 o'clock rail, in front of the fsb.
I also run my x300 on the 12 o'clock rail, in front of the fsb.
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I own an x300 and love it, on my pistols.
As for a good arguement on why not to have one on a carbine is simply the functionality of turning it on or off. It is a bit awkward.
A task performed much better by something like surefires scout light.
Another light I also own. Or just 6p in a mount, easy though not intended to resist the shock of a carbine over time.
So if it's a light your getting specifically to mount on your carbine there are better choices out there for that task.
If it's something primarily for a pistol that will occassionaly go on a carbine have at it. </div></div>
Not sure if this helps or not--but a lot of my PD pals are running this
Remote switch for X300
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I own an x300 and love it, on my pistols.
As for a good arguement on why not to have one on a carbine is simply the functionality of turning it on or off. It is a bit awkward.
A task performed much better by something like surefires scout light.
Another light I also own. Or just 6p in a mount, easy though not intended to resist the shock of a carbine over time.
So if it's a light your getting specifically to mount on your carbine there are better choices out there for that task.
If it's something primarily for a pistol that will occassionaly go on a carbine have at it. </div></div>
Not sure if this helps or not--but a lot of my PD pals are running this
Remote switch for X300
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
The problem with pressure pads where the hand rests are guys constantly having light AD's. Getting tense in whatever situation and squeezing down on that and giving your position away. Nothing like that when your trying to sneak up on someone.
And lets try to forget about the people that rest one hand on the pressure pad and the other on the trigger. Meaning to squeeze one and squeezing them both. Kind of bad when you meant to just squeeze the pad for the light. Exactly the reason why the forward grip pressure pads are just bad bad bad.
And with most cops having an extreme lack of training that's just bad juju waiting to happen.
Most cops are shooters like I'm a damn poet, not at all.
The problem with pressure pads where the hand rests are guys constantly having light AD's. Getting tense in whatever situation and squeezing down on that and giving your position away. Nothing like that when your trying to sneak up on someone.
And lets try to forget about the people that rest one hand on the pressure pad and the other on the trigger. Meaning to squeeze one and squeezing them both. Kind of bad when you meant to just squeeze the pad for the light. Exactly the reason why the forward grip pressure pads are just bad bad bad.
And with most cops having an extreme lack of training that's just bad juju waiting to happen.
Most cops are shooters like I'm a damn poet, not at all.
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The problem with pressure pads where the hand rests are guys constantly having light AD's.
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Where do you mount your pressure pad?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The problem with pressure pads where the hand rests are guys constantly having light AD's.
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Where do you mount your pressure pad?
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
Well, simply. I don't mount pressure pads. I prefer clicking buttons.
In the 9 oclock position. activated by moving the left thumb from it's natural resting position in order to actuate the light.
Usually i'm running surefire's scout light with the click on, click off button.
Nearly impossible to turn on accidentally without a deliberate action.
Like I mentioned, pressure pads seem to always be activated when you don't want them to.
Well, simply. I don't mount pressure pads. I prefer clicking buttons.
In the 9 oclock position. activated by moving the left thumb from it's natural resting position in order to actuate the light.
Usually i'm running surefire's scout light with the click on, click off button.
Nearly impossible to turn on accidentally without a deliberate action.
Like I mentioned, pressure pads seem to always be activated when you don't want them to.
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
I am the other way around. The clickie tailcap is good but not as ambidextrous as the pressure pad. If you mount the pressure pad on top of the rail you can wrap your thumb over the top and activate it with either hand. If you mount it on the side you can activate it with your finger tips or if you switch hands to clear a corner with your opposite hand thumb.
The light at the 9 o'clock position with a clickie tailcap is almost impossible to use unless it is mounted really low and you are running a vertical foregrip like the way Kyle Lamb does it.
I am the other way around. The clickie tailcap is good but not as ambidextrous as the pressure pad. If you mount the pressure pad on top of the rail you can wrap your thumb over the top and activate it with either hand. If you mount it on the side you can activate it with your finger tips or if you switch hands to clear a corner with your opposite hand thumb.
The light at the 9 o'clock position with a clickie tailcap is almost impossible to use unless it is mounted really low and you are running a vertical foregrip like the way Kyle Lamb does it.
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
That's right. Although how I do it is extremely easy it is not ambidextrous like everything else on my rifles.
I never did catch on with that wrapping the thumb over the top and whatnot. I prefer a more traditional hold with the weak hand.
As far as switching hands to clear corners, while it offers that nano second of more cover I just don't trust it for having to take that perfect shot with my weak side. Even though, unlike most I train quite a bit with my weak side I'm still better strong side when it's go time.
That's right. Although how I do it is extremely easy it is not ambidextrous like everything else on my rifles.
I never did catch on with that wrapping the thumb over the top and whatnot. I prefer a more traditional hold with the weak hand.
As far as switching hands to clear corners, while it offers that nano second of more cover I just don't trust it for having to take that perfect shot with my weak side. Even though, unlike most I train quite a bit with my weak side I'm still better strong side when it's go time.
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rancid Coolaid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Taking the light off isn't a difficult thing, why is the 5 seconds needed to remove the light of consequence? </div></div>
I just recently purchased my first X300 for use on my DD M4 and went with the 12 o'clock mount as referenced by others here. I couldn't see a way to change the batts w/o removing the light, but just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something obvious.
Having to remove the light is a bit of a hindrance for me only because I have the six hex head rail guide attachment screws tightened down a bit beyond the point where you would be able to remove the light by hand alone. When the rail guides are left just loose enough to allow the light to slide up and down the Pic rail, the rail guide attachment screws feel like they're backed out just a bit too far to be really secure - even when using the supplied loctite. I guess I always like to err to the side of having everything hold together.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rancid Coolaid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Taking the light off isn't a difficult thing, why is the 5 seconds needed to remove the light of consequence? </div></div>
I just recently purchased my first X300 for use on my DD M4 and went with the 12 o'clock mount as referenced by others here. I couldn't see a way to change the batts w/o removing the light, but just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing something obvious.
Having to remove the light is a bit of a hindrance for me only because I have the six hex head rail guide attachment screws tightened down a bit beyond the point where you would be able to remove the light by hand alone. When the rail guides are left just loose enough to allow the light to slide up and down the Pic rail, the rail guide attachment screws feel like they're backed out just a bit too far to be really secure - even when using the supplied loctite. I guess I always like to err to the side of having everything hold together.
Re: Surefire X300 weapon light question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
And with most cops having an extreme lack of training that's just bad juju waiting to happen.
Most cops are shooters like I'm a damn poet, not at all.
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Its funny you say that, and for the most part I agree. However the gents with this set up shoot the piss out of their guns.
Anyways, this set up works well for their needs.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YourMotherTrebek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
And with most cops having an extreme lack of training that's just bad juju waiting to happen.
Most cops are shooters like I'm a damn poet, not at all.
</div></div>
Its funny you say that, and for the most part I agree. However the gents with this set up shoot the piss out of their guns.
Anyways, this set up works well for their needs.
