Suspicion about child births

[Smokeshot]

This might sound crazy but my gut feeling is that something crazy is going on.

Okay, so my wife gave birth to our daughter in 2022. It was her last appointment 2 weeks before the due date and her doc said that our baby girl’s not gonna grow in the womb anymore so they’re gonna induce the labor. It took 35 hours to get the dilation to 10cm and then my girl was out in 20 minutes. I thank God for that event not turning into a c-section.

Anyways, since then, five friends of ours had kids and every single one of them was either induced or c-section. And I keep hearing about the same thing happening to friends of friends. So, what in the fuck is going on? Out of those five friends, one’s in California and one’s in Texas, so it’s not just Illinois. My theory is either hospitals and insurance companies scamming or something more sinister.

I don’t know if this has happened to people you know or anyone here experienced this and thinks that something’s up. Just wondering.

 

[Stevo86]

This might sound crazy but my gut feeling is that something crazy is going on.

Okay, so my wife gave birth to our daughter in 2022. It was her last appointment 2 weeks before the due date and her doc said that our baby girl’s not gonna grow in the womb anymore so they’re gonna induce the labor. It took 35 hours to get the dilation to 10cm and then my girl was out in 20 minutes. I thank God for that event not turning into a c-section.

Anyways, since then, five friends of ours had kids and every single one of them was either induced or c-section. And I keep hearing about the same thing happening to friends of friends. So, what in the fuck is going on? Out of those five friends, one’s in California and one’s in Texas, so it’s not just Illinois. My theory is either hospitals and insurance companies scamming or something more sinister.

I don’t know if this has happened to people you know or anyone here experienced this and thinks that something’s up. Just wondering.

Same thing…. 2015 induced on a Sunday at noon son was born by c section Tuesday at 5:30 pm.

Daughter born C section in 2019… my understanding once they have a c section that’s the only way it happens again?

My brothers 2 daughters same thing.

In Texas.

 

[NoDopes]

Maybe "doctors" don't like getting called at 2am a patient in labor. Induced on convenient time time is easier.

 

[KYAggie]

Follow the money. It’s totally a money grab. If they induce early there’s a higher chance of a c section and once you go that way most can’t have a v-back in the future. They make more money on a c section. The insurance companies have so squeezed health care that your care is now predicated on how much money it makes the hospital, not on what’s best for the patient.

 

[OREGUN]

my understanding once they have a c section that’s the only way it happens again?

Your understanding is incorrect. Google “vaginal birth after c-section”. Or VBAC, if you like.


The reasons c-section births are so common are multitude but mostly revolve around parents wanting to have babies at a specific time, with a specific dr. attending, and docs that are under tremendous, and understandable pressure, to control the variables (most docs are owned by their hospital and and thusly accountable for their time and the resources used and natural births take more time) and ensure a positive outcome (measured by low infant and mother mortality rates). Sections are much less common at births attended by doulas or midwives and vary depending on which “academy” the doc is a member of, OB/GYN, family med, etc. Stanford and Harvard have done expensive studies on section rates and the factors involved… but they’re obviously just commies and should be defunded. Have the birth experience you voted for.

 

[Stevo86]

Your understanding is incorrect. Google “vaginal birth after c-section”. Or VBAC, if you like.


The reasons c-section births are so common are multitude but mostly revolve around parents wanting to have babies at a specific time, with a specific dr. attending, and docs that are under tremendous, and understandable pressure, to control the variables (most docs are owned by their hospital and and thusly accountable for their time and the resources used and natural births take more time) and ensure a positive outcome (measured by low infant and mother mortality rates). Sections are much less common at births attended by doulas or midwives and vary depending on which “academy” the doc is a member of, OB/GYN, family med, etc. Stanford and Harvard have done expensive studies on section rates and the factors involved… but they’re obviously just commies and should be defunded. Have the birth experience you voted for.

Like I said…. That was my understanding… not saying right or wrong. I didn’t vote for any type of experience… I got what I got. Have 2 healthy children and couldn’t be happier.

Just stating my experience.

 

[mrdrar]

It's rare to get sued for a C-section with a healthy baby. It's common to get sued and lose for a vaginal birth with any problem. If an ultrasound, or even physical exam, shows that fetal growth had stopped or that there is low amniotic fluid, most Obstetricians will at least induce labor if not do a C-se lction.

 

[Snipe260]

This might sound crazy but my gut feeling is that something crazy is going on.

Okay, so my wife gave birth to our daughter in 2022. It was her last appointment 2 weeks before the due date and her doc said that our baby girl’s not gonna grow in the womb anymore so they’re gonna induce the labor. It took 35 hours to get the dilation to 10cm and then my girl was out in 20 minutes. I thank God for that event not turning into a c-section.

Anyways, since then, five friends of ours had kids and every single one of them was either induced or c-section. And I keep hearing about the same thing happening to friends of friends. So, what in the fuck is going on? Out of those five friends, one’s in California and one’s in Texas, so it’s not just Illinois. My theory is either hospitals and insurance companies scamming or something more sinister.

I don’t know if this has happened to people you know or anyone here experienced this and thinks that something’s up. Just wondering.

Shantilla went to the toilet to take a shit. Had a baby instead. She named him Barack. She din even know she was pregnant

 

[chevy_man]

So glad we had our kids back before the ACA totally screwed up the whole system. The wife got what she wanted, and a C-section was only in case of emergency.

 

[clcustom1911]

Fuck the '1st world' medical establishment. Women should give birth squatting, or on all 4's in a room lit by candles or equivalent color and Intensity lights like what we've been doing for thousands of years, oh and don't cut the umbilical cord. It's will detach itself naturally.... like what's been going on for thousands of years.

This lithotomy position (on back, legs up, going AGAINST gravity) is absolutely retarded and a product of the want of a King Louis XIV wanting to witness the birth. It was opposite what all the midwives were used to (squatting or all fours) up to that point.

Once workd got out that "the royals" were having baby's that way, then the commonfolk followed suit, because "omg the royals."

Fuck the royals.

 

[Snipe260]

Fuck the '1st world' medical establishment. Women should give birth squatting, or on all 4's in a room lit by candles or equivalent color and Intensity lights like what we've been doing for thousands of years, oh and don't cut the umbilical cord. It's will detach itself naturally.... like what's been going on for thousands of years.

This lithotomy position (on back, legs up, going AGAINST gravity) is absolutely retarded and a product of the want of a King Louis XIV wanting to witness the birth. It was opposite what all the midwives were used to (squatting or all fours) up to that point.

Once workd got out that "the royals" were having baby's that way, then the commonfolk followed suit, because "omg the royals."

Fuck the royals.

Women everywhere now love you

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Women everywhere now love you

Have you seen his hair? He's the short hair version of Fabio.

 

[EddieNFL]

Same for DIL in 20, 23 and 24. All three were induced about two weeks early. Supposedly some condition she has. The last one was born around five AM. The doc delivered him, walked down the hall and delivered her best friend’s son…induced about two weeks early.

 

[clcustom1911]

Women everywhere now love you

All I need is 1 woman to love me and have a brain. Thankfully my fiance checks both those boxes and she's been researching the fraud that is modern childbirth practices for several years now.

 

[clcustom1911]

Have you seen his hair? He's the short hair version of Fabio.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

My father delivered all 5 kids at home in a dirt floor cabin with no electricity or running water in Homer Alaska, myself among them. People used to ask how they could do that, and he used to say "it's pretty simple really, you just kinda let it happen". They thought that hospitals were making a killing complicating a completely normal human process with drugs and surgeries, so they put their money where their mouths were.

 

[mvphilly]

What ever happened to the birth underwater craze?Is that now washed away?

 

[ironpony52]

Being this was brought up, it got me thinking. All the births I have heard of recently have been "scheduled", weird.
All ours were natural '82, '84, '87.

 

[ColbyLang]

Both of my kids were natural. Water broke for my son in 15 and bronchitis started contractions for my daughter in 17. Both about 10 days earlier than expected due date

 

[Emerson0311]

Being this was brought up, it got me thinking. All the births I have heard of recently have been "scheduled", weird.
All ours were natural '82, '84, '87.

Most western people are very focused on imposing their personal timeline desires on the world around them.

 

[akmike47]

All I need is 1 woman to love me and have a brain. Thankfully my fiance checks both those boxes and she's been researching the fraud that is modern childbirth practices for several years now.

Losing your virginity finally has really gayed you up

 

[ColbyLang]

Losing your virginity finally has really gayed you up

Judging by his hair, he was just waiting in the closet

 

[akmike47]

Judging by his hair, he was just waiting in the closet

He kicked the door, rolled in some popper grenades, and ran in bent over backwards screaming YAAAAAAS!

 

[nagantguy]

Insurance pays 3.5 times more for C-section . Remember we are simply cash cattle to the medical industry

 

[Californio]

This might sound crazy but my gut feeling is that something crazy is going on.

Okay, so my wife gave birth to our daughter in 2022. It was her last appointment 2 weeks before the due date and her doc said that our baby girl’s not gonna grow in the womb anymore so they’re gonna induce the labor. It took 35 hours to get the dilation to 10cm and then my girl was out in 20 minutes. I thank God for that event not turning into a c-section.

Anyways, since then, five friends of ours had kids and every single one of them was either induced or c-section. And I keep hearing about the same thing happening to friends of friends. So, what in the fuck is going on? Out of those five friends, one’s in California and one’s in Texas, so it’s not just Illinois. My theory is either hospitals and insurance companies scamming or something more sinister.

I don’t know if this has happened to people you know or anyone here experienced this and thinks that something’s up. Just wondering.

Sex is the problem, our coach told us if the kid is late get in their and tap it on the head, so we went a week late and finally the wife put me to work and one hour later her water broke., she did not want to be induced. Sometimes the old ways are the better ways.

 

[Short-bus]

My girls are 16 and 20, oldest was induced (at my wifes request because she was tired of being pregnant, on daughters due date), youngest was c-section because she was a massive baby, and she was breach anyway. At 35 weeks they did a sonogram and estimated her weight at just over 10lbs already, and at that point in the pregnancy they put on 1/2lb a week, so they were like "lets get this baby out before you split open", and they did, at 36 weeks. She was only 9lbs 3oz, and my wife was hella pissed.

I don't really know if there's something going on, I thought all the hollywood whores did c-section because they didn't want their front butts to look like arby's roast beef sammiches after pushing out kids. They needed it to be nice for the casting couch or something like that.

 

[Ronws]

What ever happened to the birth underwater craze?Is that now washed away?

Well-timed pun that seems to have encountered almost zero notice. If no one else then,

"I was there and I saw what you did. Saw it with my own two eyes. So you can wipe of the grin. I know where you've been. It's all been a pack of lies..."

 

[Ronws]

Early on a Thursday morning in March of 1964, my mother got up to get some orange juice to drink. While in the kitchen, she felt her water break. And then she could feel something sticking out down there.

She waddled back to the bedroom to wake up my father and asked him if he could see something like a leg or arm down there. Nope, it was tubular. My umbilical cord. And it was grey instead of purple. So, he got her into his Ford Galaxy 500 and got her to the hospital (Whitehead Memorial Hospital in Los Angeles, California.)

Her doctor was a big ole farmboy with a great sense of humor.

I was in the breach position and pressing on my own umbilical cord. He told to get on her hands and knees and stick her butt up on the air. She laughed, thinking he was being silly again. So, he picked up and turned her over and told her to stay that way.

So, I was born by c-section. Biblically, not born of woman.

Later, almost two years, my younger brother would be born, also by c-section. That was the predominant thinking then.

She was also pregnant between the two sons and miscarried. That one would have been a sister.

My mother would be plagued by scar tissue from the surgeries.

 

[mosin46]

Your understanding is incorrect. Google “vaginal birth after c-section”. Or VBAC, if you like.


The reasons c-section births are so common are multitude but mostly revolve around parents wanting to have babies at a specific time, with a specific dr. attending, and docs that are under tremendous, and understandable pressure, to control the variables (most docs are owned by their hospital and and thusly accountable for their time and the resources used and natural births take more time) and ensure a positive outcome (measured by low infant and mother mortality rates). Sections are much less common at births attended by doulas or midwives and vary depending on which “academy” the doc is a member of, OB/GYN, family med, etc. Stanford and Harvard have done expensive studies on section rates and the factors involved… but they’re obviously just commies and should be defunded. Have the birth experience you voted for.

getting a "good" baby is one of the reasons,less risk/law suits if any risks. yea,more $s,easier to schedule,less work really,often less time. the lithotomy position lets the DR stay in a "superior" position. getting underneath for a "catch" makes them in an "inferior" position. ego matters.
i can tell you that c-section is not seen as a major surgical procedure by many. it damn sure is. dealt with several-usually obese multi parturient welfare queens. managing nipride and magnesium drips can be fun. bleeding can be a management problem. vigorous fundal massage on fresh abd wounds doesn't get much cooperation.
at 1 time regional blocks for delivery did lead to many sections. the block would slow the fetal heart to emergent levels. that led to emergency sections. long time ago. i don't know about things now.

 

[Californio]

My buddies daughter is a Med/Ped Physician and they induced her second, she almost bleed out and were ready to transfuse her, inducing is not a free lunch by any means.

 

[ColinW]

My wife did some research prior to her pregnancy and....pretty much every thing said here was her result. Nearly all the hospitals either induced labor or provided a c-section. Reason being? Money!! $$$$ We'll induce labor or cut you up to move your ass along and to get out of the way for more money! A woman's first born labor can take quite a while, as most know! (Second and follow on children don't generally take as long)

So, my wife decided to do a "home birth" for both our babies. Ages 4 & 2, currently. The environment of hospitals plays a big part in the "proper state of mind" of the mother during labor to. Create a calmer, more relaxing home setting environment, a woman may generally have a smoother birth experience. Mix that with dula's / midwives/ home nurses with medical experience, things are generally good to go. Put a pregnant women in an awkward room with machines beeping, really uncomfortable beds, people walking in and out every 5 minutes for check ups, etc etc is mostly why hospitals induced labor to get your ass out because you're taking up their space and time. Space and time is more money for hospitals to grab.

@Smokeshot It ain't just you, brother! The moral compass in the medical world is turning south, FAST!

 

[Ric O'shay]

My daughter recently had a perfect and normal delivery. I was in the hall to supervise
It was in Mn They fuck up alot of stuff but I think they do healthcare well there.

 

[ColbyLang]

My wife did some research prior to her pregnancy and....pretty much every thing said here was her result. Nearly all the hospitals either induced labor or provided a c-section. Reason being? Money!! $$$$ We'll induce labor or cut you up to move your ass along and to get out of the way for more money! A woman's first born labor can take quite a while, as most know! (Second and follow on children don't generally take as long)

So, my wife decided to do a "home birth" for both our babies. Ages 4 & 2, currently. The environment of hospitals plays a big part in the "proper state of mind" of the mother during labor to. Create a calmer, more relaxing home setting environment, a woman may generally have a smoother birth experience. Mix that with dula's / midwives/ home nurses with medical experience, things are generally good to go. Put a pregnant women in an awkward room with machines beeping, really uncomfortable beds, people walking in and out every 5 minutes for check ups, etc etc is mostly why hospitals induced labor to get your ass out because you're taking up their space and time. Space and time is more money for hospitals to grab.

@Smokeshot It ain't just you, brother! The moral compass in the medical world is turning south, FAST!

Congrats on the successful home births. Unfortunately, they don’t all go so smoothly. I’ll take a delivery room over my living room any day. Just my opinion

 

[375fan]

My father delivered all 5 kids at home in a dirt floor cabin with no electricity or running water in Homer Alaska, myself among them. People used to ask how they could do that, and he used to say "it's pretty simple really, you just kinda let it happen". They thought that hospitals were making a killing complicating a completely normal human process with drugs and surgeries, so they put their money where their mouths were.

I'm betting your mother was probably in pretty good physical condition and hadn't packed on unnecessary weight while pregnant with you and your siblings?

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

I'm betting your mother was probably in pretty good physical condition and hadn't packed on unnecessary weight while pregnant with you and your siblings?

That's probably true.

Also, it was the 70's, so nobody was fat, at least not like today.

 

[XP1K]

My father delivered all 5 kids at home in a dirt floor cabin with no electricity or running water in Homer Alaska, myself among them. People used to ask how they could do that, and he used to say "it's pretty simple really, you just kinda let it happen". They thought that hospitals were making a killing complicating a completely normal human process with drugs and surgeries, so they put their money where their mouths were.

Both of mine were midwife baby's. My youngest, my daughter, I delivered because the midwife didn't make it in time. She came quick. Less than an hour.

Both of mine were natural births and both were/are healthy kids. Your dad was right, you do just kind of let it happen. It was a cool experience.

 

[AmmoFort]

Congrats on the successful home births. Unfortunately, they don’t all go so smoothly. I’ll take a delivery room over my living room any day. Just my opinion

1st was in the hospital and it was a terrible experience compared to the next 2 home births. 4th was at home, but I delivered him myself as the midwife wasn’t there yet. Then he ended up needing to stay in the NICU a couple months. That last one was nerve wracking for sure, but I’ll take home birthing over the hospital any day of the week.

 

[diggler1833]

It's almost like when hospitals got a financial incentive for treating Covid cases, and the influenza virus disappeared for a long time...

 

[ColinW]

Congrats on the successful home births. Unfortunately, they don’t all go so smoothly. I’ll take a delivery room over my living room any day. Just my opinion

Thanks. My wife did all the hard work, my job was easy. FWIW, dude.....Women have been giving natural, vaginal brith since the dawn of time before hospitals were a money grabbing scheme. Men(if present) and women are much more easily coerced into inducing first born labors due to the longevity of the labor and/or cesarean surgery by "medical professionals." Be mindful of it and don't be easily coerced into doing so if there are no under lying pregnancy issues(preeclampsia, broadside breach, etc)

 

[SilentStalkr]

This might sound crazy but my gut feeling is that something crazy is going on.

Okay, so my wife gave birth to our daughter in 2022. It was her last appointment 2 weeks before the due date and her doc said that our baby girl’s not gonna grow in the womb anymore so they’re gonna induce the labor. It took 35 hours to get the dilation to 10cm and then my girl was out in 20 minutes. I thank God for that event not turning into a c-section.

Anyways, since then, five friends of ours had kids and every single one of them was either induced or c-section. And I keep hearing about the same thing happening to friends of friends. So, what in the fuck is going on? Out of those five friends, one’s in California and one’s in Texas, so it’s not just Illinois. My theory is either hospitals and insurance companies scamming or something more sinister.

I don’t know if this has happened to people you know or anyone here experienced this and thinks that something’s up. Just wondering.

Both my kids were born via C Section. First one was great. Quick and easy. Wife recovered no problem. The second one, not so much. Totally different exp and I think it was all a scam. I won’t go into all the details but basically, they admitted my wife, said her BP was too high, holding for monitoring. Every time the BP woukd go down they would come in and ask her about payment which would shoot it up because we have damn good insurance and they claimed they weren’t paying all of it up front for whatever these fees were when they admitted her. I was out of the country. Finally, they get in touch with me and say I need to pay them $8000 like immediately. Without thinking, i did just that because I knew it wasn’t helping my wife’s situation any with them coming in and asking about money nonstop. Immediately, i get on the phone with insurance and they said I shouldnt have paid this. About what I figured. I was supposed to get refunded cause insurance did pay. I wound up getting less than $2000 back even tho my insurance covered it all except my $100 deductible. I was so pissed. Anyways a week in the hospital for the wife and because they put my newborn in a cold water tub almost immediately to wash her, her temp dropped and obviously she became hypothermic!!!! No shit. I kept telling them this but they wouldn’t listen to me. So then, we are separated from momma and sent to the NiCU. So now my kid is by herself in the NIcU and momma is flipping out. Not helping anything. I get the first flight back and get back as soon as I can go spend weeks in the NiCU with my kid. Back and forth between home, work, hospital. Was insane and it was all because they put her in freezing cold water. Her temp went back up to normal after a few days but then she had an issue taking any milk or a bottle because she was more or less fighting the cold doe days. Yeah. I think the entire thing was done on purpose. It’s downright wrong and some of the cases I read about now are quite scary.

 

[SilentStalkr]

My wife did some research prior to her pregnancy and....pretty much every thing said here was her result. Nearly all the hospitals either induced labor or provided a c-section. Reason being? Money!! $$$$ We'll induce labor or cut you up to move your ass along and to get out of the way for more money! A woman's first born labor can take quite a while, as most know! (Second and follow on children don't generally take as long)

So, my wife decided to do a "home birth" for both our babies. Ages 4 & 2, currently. The environment of hospitals plays a big part in the "proper state of mind" of the mother during labor to. Create a calmer, more relaxing home setting environment, a woman may generally have a smoother birth experience. Mix that with dula's / midwives/ home nurses with medical experience, things are generally good to go. Put a pregnant women in an awkward room with machines beeping, really uncomfortable beds, people walking in and out every 5 minutes for check ups, etc etc is mostly why hospitals induced labor to get your ass out because you're taking up their space and time. Space and time is more money for hospitals to grab.

@Smokeshot It ain't just you, brother! The moral compass in the medical world is turning south, FAST!

It’s freaking scary.

 

[ColinW]

It’s freaking scary.

Yes it is! Bunch of "medical professional" evil fucks killing people for the sake of medicine. There's a TEDTalk somewhere online with Bill Gates plainly stating that the population is too high and to reduce the worlds population to normal levels by medicine. By vaccines(covid jab anyone?) and women's health (we all know that means child birth or child murder). I'll try to find it and post it on here.

 

[mrdrar]

Thanks. My wife did all the hard work, my job was easy. FWIW, dude.....Women have been giving natural, vaginal brith since the dawn of time before hospitals were a money grabbing scheme. Men(if present) and women are much more easily coerced into inducing first born labors due to the longevity of the labor and/or cesarean surgery by "medical professionals." Be mindful of it and don't be easily coerced into doing so if there are no under lying pregnancy issues(preeclampsia, broadside breach, etc)

I'm not saying that there aren't problems with modern medicine, but not too long ago child birth was extremely dangerous for mother and child.

 

[lash]

I'm not saying that there aren't problems with modern medicine, but not too long ago child birth was extremely dangerous for mother and child.

My grandmother gave home birth to 14 healthy children. Some of them during the German occupation of Holland. Another on the ship crossing the Atlantic to America.

 

[lash]

What ever happened to the birth underwater craze?Is that now washed away?

Too many babies thrown out with the bath water…

Ba Dum, Tssss…

Well-timed pun that seems to have encountered almost zero notice. If no one else then,

"I was there and I saw what you did. Saw it with my own two eyes. So you can wipe of the grin. I know where you've been. It's all been a pack of lies..."

I noticed.

 

[mosin46]

I'm not saying that there aren't problems with modern medicine, but not too long ago child birth was extremely dangerous for mother and child.

i would agree here. during hosp del of my 2nd,her mother tore and bleed like stink. at home could have been fatal. baby was OK. post they let her sit with a HGB of about 7 0r 8 and did nothing. sent her out 1 day later with no meaningful intervention. she prob would have died in early 20th cent or earlier.
my point is that there are good reasons for home/midwife delivery but advanced prep for serious unexpected complications is a must. my impression is that that advanced planning is not what it should be. but,i do not know that just some thoughts.

 

[lash]

i would agree here. during hosp del of my 2nd,her mother tore and bleed like stink. at home could have been fatal. baby was OK. post they let her sit with a HGB of about 7 0r 8 and did nothing. sent her out 1 day later with no meaningful intervention. she prob would have died in early 20th cent or earlier.
my point is that there are good reasons for home/midwife delivery but advanced prep for serious unexpected complications is a must. my impression is that that advanced planning is not what it should be. but,i do not know that just some thoughts.

A educated and properly trained midwife or dula does monitor the patient and has a hospital standby ready in the case of unexpected complications. A niece in Scotland is one such.