Re: Synthetic Motor Oil to lube their AR 15?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rcw3</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: g3ninfinite</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is contradictory to everything I've experienced. Not saying it's wrong but I've never experienced excessive wear on any bolts and Ive found running them wet always works.
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I guess I see feedback from the hundreds of "hot rod" uppers we have built up and how things come back for re-barreling or service work, and when an upper comes back after only 500-1000 rounds and the head space has opened up .003" and you find out the guys are using stuff like Break Free or motor oil on the lugs and it happens with various uppers, it's obvious there's an issue. Having customers who push things to the limit and servicing uppers can really provide data on an issue. Most people do not monitor the head space of their rifle and how it is growing with the number of rounds fired, so the responses of "hey I never noticed a problem", does not mean there isn't a potential lubrication issue. Maybe your situation is o.k. by reason of what and how you shoot and how you maintain things, but that does not mean that's necessarily true across the board.
I don't know what all the excess lube accomplishes with the "wet" lube technique. To me it just leaves it so there's a lot of lube that can go places it should not and also attract a lot of dirt and grunge to build up and cause potential problems. In an AR, there are clearly places where lube should not go (back into the buffer tube area, down into magazines, onto cartridge cases to be chambered, etc.) and with the high speed of carrier cycling, excess lube can get sprayed around in places it does not belong. I once was scoring for a shooter who used the "wet" technique with his AR and he had function issues during the match and I remember watching his rifle closely while he was shooting (because he had taken alibis and I was hoping to see what was the problem) and I remember seeing lube dripping out of the bottom of his mag well and magazines as he was shooting - not good. Another "wet lube" shooter who had function problems asked me for help, and I remember seeing oil on the shoulder pad on his shooting jacket and it was clear that oil had gotten back in to the buffer tube and was squirting back through the vent hole in the upper buttplate screw, and that oil was causing cycling problems. If "wet" works for you that's fine, but I would never advise a customer to do that as that's a recipe for me to potentially get the rifle back for function problems related to running things "wet". When you have to do warranty and service work on AR's you get a different view of things and get to see a lot of things and accumulate a lot of data on issues that are not always readily apparent.
Robert
www.6mmAR.com
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I guess are far as wet goes we had two different ideas in mind. I dont have oil in my mags, buffer tube or on my clothing. Perhaps I run mine damp not "wet"