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Tanker Garand / Mini-G
- Thread starter Witch_Doctor
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Re: Tanker Garand / Mini-G
It`s a sin against God to chop up a Garand-
Stick with the full lenght barrel- one reason the shortened rifle didn`t proceed further in original testing was the very pronounced muzzle flash- video shows this pretty well.
Have seen on several other gun boards that the company making these does have a record of very quick turn around and good quality of work.
It`s a sin against God to chop up a Garand-
Stick with the full lenght barrel- one reason the shortened rifle didn`t proceed further in original testing was the very pronounced muzzle flash- video shows this pretty well.
Have seen on several other gun boards that the company making these does have a record of very quick turn around and good quality of work.
Re: Tanker Garand / Mini-G
Can't speak for the Mini-G, but Shuff's Parkerizing is GTG as a Garand smith.
Can't speak for the Mini-G, but Shuff's Parkerizing is GTG as a Garand smith.
Re: Tanker Garand / Mini-G
Oh its a novelty alright, Fulton is even making them as an option. I have read the backstory on these from Springfield, they experimented with it in 1944, called a T26. Same reason they dropped it, muzzle flame
and loud report.
I hadn't shot one, but it looks like a kick in the pants. Something about a 16.25" Garand, I was thinking about sending one of my rack grades I got from CMP. I don't know though, I have a hard time reationalizing chopping a Garand down. My Socom 16 needs a buddy
Oh its a novelty alright, Fulton is even making them as an option. I have read the backstory on these from Springfield, they experimented with it in 1944, called a T26. Same reason they dropped it, muzzle flame
I hadn't shot one, but it looks like a kick in the pants. Something about a 16.25" Garand, I was thinking about sending one of my rack grades I got from CMP. I don't know though, I have a hard time reationalizing chopping a Garand down. My Socom 16 needs a buddy
Re: Tanker Garand / Mini-G
Would be better if you changed barrel out for a .308Win then it would be a nice little boom stick. Throw on a AimPoint on one of those scout mounts...might be pretty slick.
money wise I would just get a SOCOM 16 though...
Respectfully,
--KJ
Would be better if you changed barrel out for a .308Win then it would be a nice little boom stick. Throw on a AimPoint on one of those scout mounts...might be pretty slick.
money wise I would just get a SOCOM 16 though...
Respectfully,
--KJ
Re: Tanker Garand / Mini-G
I had a "tanker" length Garand with a 308 barrel that absolutely was a blast-accurate enough for what it was and a blast to shoot. I had a Smith Enerprise's muzzle brake and it kicked like a 223.
They can be crap or they can run 100%, if you are interested in one, get one from a builder that will stand behind it with a good rep, or if buying used don't buy without doing your homework and getting a test fire prior to paying. Most are built on demil'ed receivers that are rewelded torched receivers.
Fun little rifle, but I didn't keep it long after the novelty wore off. If I hadn't been in need of an AR15 carbine in the safe I'd probably still have it, but of the two I needed an AR more.
Actually if my personal economy were better I would have kept it for sure!
I had a "tanker" length Garand with a 308 barrel that absolutely was a blast-accurate enough for what it was and a blast to shoot. I had a Smith Enerprise's muzzle brake and it kicked like a 223.
They can be crap or they can run 100%, if you are interested in one, get one from a builder that will stand behind it with a good rep, or if buying used don't buy without doing your homework and getting a test fire prior to paying. Most are built on demil'ed receivers that are rewelded torched receivers.
Fun little rifle, but I didn't keep it long after the novelty wore off. If I hadn't been in need of an AR15 carbine in the safe I'd probably still have it, but of the two I needed an AR more.
Actually if my personal economy were better I would have kept it for sure!
Re: Tanker Garand / Mini-G
I've always found the Tanker Garands interesting. I read a lot about the conversion a few years ago but no one offered the conversion at the time. I remember a parts kit but you had to find a smith willing to take on the project. Personally, if I were to have one built it would have to be in .30-06. Like mentioned above, in .308 why not just buy a Socom and put a walnut stock on it. The Mini-G link looks really promising... This could end up costing me money.
I can see DV's point to an extent about chopping one up. However, there are a metric shit ton of Garands out there. If it were a particularly rare M1 or #'s matching pristine example I wouldn't do it. On the other hand if it's a rifle that needs to be brought back to life, why not?
I've always found the Tanker Garands interesting. I read a lot about the conversion a few years ago but no one offered the conversion at the time. I remember a parts kit but you had to find a smith willing to take on the project. Personally, if I were to have one built it would have to be in .30-06. Like mentioned above, in .308 why not just buy a Socom and put a walnut stock on it. The Mini-G link looks really promising... This could end up costing me money.
I can see DV's point to an extent about chopping one up. However, there are a metric shit ton of Garands out there. If it were a particularly rare M1 or #'s matching pristine example I wouldn't do it. On the other hand if it's a rifle that needs to be brought back to life, why not?
Re: Tanker Garand / Mini-G
While '06 is part of what makes the M1 the M1, in a shortened version it is harder to get to run correctly with the shortened op rod, etc. Really easy to bang the crap out of the rifle with the '06 loads.
While '06 is part of what makes the M1 the M1, in a shortened version it is harder to get to run correctly with the shortened op rod, etc. Really easy to bang the crap out of the rifle with the '06 loads.
Re: Tanker Garand / Mini-G
I thought if the op rod was bent correctly for the shortening that you're GTG.
I thought if the op rod was bent correctly for the shortening that you're GTG.
Re: Tanker Garand / Mini-G
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dlc356</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thought if the op rod was bent<span style="color: #FF0000"> correctly </span>for the shortening that you're GTG. </div></div>
And therein lies the rub
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dlc356</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thought if the op rod was bent<span style="color: #FF0000"> correctly </span>for the shortening that you're GTG. </div></div>
And therein lies the rub
Re: Tanker Garand / Mini-G
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dlc356</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thought if the op rod was bent correctly for the shortening that you're GTG. </div></div>
Exactly. But I have heard horror stories of the op rod not being perfect and causing issues. Shuff's is probably the safest route to go for a Mini G conversion. I hear his prices are fair, and his assessment of your donor rifle is honest and accurate in terms of parts replacement or upgrades required for proper function. I considered this with a bare receiver I have, but never followed through.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dlc356</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I thought if the op rod was bent correctly for the shortening that you're GTG. </div></div>
Exactly. But I have heard horror stories of the op rod not being perfect and causing issues. Shuff's is probably the safest route to go for a Mini G conversion. I hear his prices are fair, and his assessment of your donor rifle is honest and accurate in terms of parts replacement or upgrades required for proper function. I considered this with a bare receiver I have, but never followed through.
Re: Tanker Garand / Mini-G
The Mini-G was one of my "end of deployment toys" that I got. I spoke with Tim and explained I was coming home in April and we got everything set up. I had him install the Smith muzzle break and am glad. (he did have to cut the barrel a little bit shorter)
The Mini-G is awesome to shoot. It's a great rifle. I haven't done any accuracy but my wife, brother and myself were blasting milk jugs at 100 offhand. Its heavy but its wood and steel. The Smith brake is phenomenal at diminishing almost all recoil.
Shufflin does bend his own oprods to correct length and welds on the gas piston of his own proprietary gas system. It is adjustable so that all excess gas is jetted out of the gas system. THis is great since it enables you to use any factory ammo. Just turn the gas plug all the way out and quarter turn till there is enough gas to cycle and cahmber the next round.
For the price, yes you can buy a Soccom, but I wanted to get a Garand. Some of you may feel its an abomination to cut up the rifle like so, but I can get a full length oprod, new barrel and handguard and a few other parts and return it to original configuration.
Just for grins and giggles I referenced the Serial Num, my receiver is a Springfield and was built in the October-November time frame of 1943. It is our 2nd oldest gun with our adopted M38 from 1942.
If you have a donor rifle I highly suggest getting the Mini-G treatment. I plan on using my Mini for Elk hunting this fall. I don't think you'll be disapointed.
The Mini-G was one of my "end of deployment toys" that I got. I spoke with Tim and explained I was coming home in April and we got everything set up. I had him install the Smith muzzle break and am glad. (he did have to cut the barrel a little bit shorter)
The Mini-G is awesome to shoot. It's a great rifle. I haven't done any accuracy but my wife, brother and myself were blasting milk jugs at 100 offhand. Its heavy but its wood and steel. The Smith brake is phenomenal at diminishing almost all recoil.
Shufflin does bend his own oprods to correct length and welds on the gas piston of his own proprietary gas system. It is adjustable so that all excess gas is jetted out of the gas system. THis is great since it enables you to use any factory ammo. Just turn the gas plug all the way out and quarter turn till there is enough gas to cycle and cahmber the next round.
For the price, yes you can buy a Soccom, but I wanted to get a Garand. Some of you may feel its an abomination to cut up the rifle like so, but I can get a full length oprod, new barrel and handguard and a few other parts and return it to original configuration.
Just for grins and giggles I referenced the Serial Num, my receiver is a Springfield and was built in the October-November time frame of 1943. It is our 2nd oldest gun with our adopted M38 from 1942.
If you have a donor rifle I highly suggest getting the Mini-G treatment. I plan on using my Mini for Elk hunting this fall. I don't think you'll be disapointed.
Re: Tanker Garand / Mini-G
I don't know anything about his Mini-G's but Tim Shufflin does great work and is very easy to work with. I think he can be easily trusted to stand by the quality of his work.
I don't know anything about his Mini-G's but Tim Shufflin does great work and is very easy to work with. I think he can be easily trusted to stand by the quality of his work.
