Television Idiocy

[wvfarrier]

I tuned into a show that i had never seen before. Called "ultimate survival alaska" and its a reality show based on making it from point A to point B in some rough areas but here is the idiocy. These morons were on the Grizzly highway, one guy had a lever action marlin 357 for bear defense (ok, i can buy that one), another guy had a long bow (unknown poundage) but here is the kicker. One yahoo had a 22 mag revolver with a 10.5" barrel (i think) and made that statement it had enough power to put down a grizzly!!!!!! Really????

 

[armorpl8chikn]

I have seen a 750lb domestic boar dispatched with one shot from a 25ACP. It can be done, but unless there is one hell of a fence twixt me and a grizzly I don't want to try it.

 

[Mustafa]

Brown bears, not grizzly in that episode. Not sure if that makes a ton of difference since they are both VERY big bears!

 

[LeadSlinger585]

Not really. IIRC, brown bears are coastal bears, whereas grizzly's are inland bears. Aside from that, they (appear to be) the same

 

[Beyschaefer]

I tuned into a show that i had never seen before. Called "ultimate survival alaska" and its a reality show based on making it from point A to point B in some rough areas but here is the idiocy. These morons were on the Grizzly highway, one guy had a lever action marlin 357 for bear defense (ok, i can buy that one), another guy had a long bow (unknown poundage) but here is the kicker. One yahoo had a 22 mag revolver with a 10.5" barrel (i think) and made that statement it had enough power to put down a grizzly!!!!!! Really????

But..but..but.. It's a MAGNUM! Of course it can kill a bear! LOL.
One day someone is gonna find a nice revolver in a pile of bear poop.

 

[LeadSlinger585]

One yahoo had a 22 mag revolver with a 10.5" barrel (i think) and made that statement it had enough power to put down a grizzly!!!!!! Really????

I think that guy should carry a salt shaker. If you end up in a confrontation with a griz, slowly reach into your pocket and pull out the salt shaker while talking to the bear.

"Heyyy bear. I don't want to mess with you. I've got some salt for you" then proceed to shake out a few granules of salt. The bear will smell the salt. Animals love salt. Once you've got his (or her) attention - they'll stand up on their hind legs and start sniffing the air - throw the salt shaker in the opposite direction and wait for the bear to go for the salt. Then make your exit.

As an extra precaution, always carry extra salt in your pocket, so if you're knocked down, you can wiggle out of your pants while the bear is licking away at the salt in your pocket. They'll be too focused on the salt to notice your getaway.

 

[sharac]

I've read that bears nowadays are food sensitive and because all those educational tables in parks (about feeding and such) i believe the proper procedure is putting salt on you and wearing a nutritional tag on visible spot with RDI tag since too much salt intake is not good for bears heart.... Also perhaps a tag "i havent had a proper shit this morning therefore watch for aftertaste..." might do the trick...

 

[armorpl8chikn]

I can assure you if I ever encounter a brown bear in the wild he will almost immediately smell salt, hot wet salt, at the same time hot wet shit. This only means he will probably start eating me crotch first.

 

[Sharpsman]

KILLING a bear ain't necessarily the problem; STOPPING the sumbeech is!! A large grizz heart rate is sloooooooooowww and one can do lots of damage with a heart shot all to hell! A brain or spinal shot is what STOPS them!!

 

[LeadSlinger585]

KILLING a bear ain't necessarily the problem; STOPPING the sumbeech is!! A large grizz heart rate is sloooooooooowww and one can do lots of damage with a heart shot all to hell! A brain or spinal shot is what STOPS them!!

I worked with the Forest Service in Alaska (specifically on Admiralty Island which has 1 brown bear per square mile). Our sponsor carried a Winchester M70 .375 H&H, with an orangish-red front sight (like on the Ruger Redhawks). According to him and the training he received, he says he was told to aim for the shoulder, that's what stops a charge. YMMV

 

[Petrov]

Would 357mag solids do ok for stopping Black bear? (NY area)

 

[wvfarrier]

Depends on the load and the bear. My friend matt has killed two small 250# ish black bears here in WV with a marlin 357 mag rifle. Using my loads of 195 grain LFN with 14 grains of H110. Both were head shots from a tree stands under 25 yards and both bears were DRT

 

[wvfarrier]

Oh both bullets had a BHN of around 18. One was recovered lodged in the spine and the other passed through the skull and out the left eye socket. Here is a pic of my son using the same rifle and load with his first buck (spike). Bullet entered just about an inch shy of the left eye and exited thru the ear canal. The mess was considerable. Deer never moved. Distance was 33 yards. It was his second shot. The first one missed by a good three feet

 

[Bigalfromfl]

Just watched some of it last night for the first time. Seems OK for a reality show...(minus the idiots on the glacier without any spikes!)

 

[-Nick-]

I worked with the Forest Service in Alaska (specifically on Admiralty Island which has 1 brown bear per square mile). Our sponsor carried a Winchester M70 .375 H&H, with an orangish-red front sight (like on the Ruger Redhawks). According to him and the training he received, he says he was told to aim for the shoulder, that's what stops a charge. YMMV

The key to stopping a charge... running faster than the other guy your with...

 

[Reid Rothchild]

22 mag should be just fine when you shoot your buddy in the leg

 

[Guest]

I have watched every episode. The most ridiculous one so far has been the one in which they were killing comorants for food and calling them ducks and geese.
Also, if you watch closely, they show a guy trying to shoot them with a single shot .410, but when he finally brings some down he's firing a 12 guage semi-auto.

 

[45.308]

Just another promotional TV ad to bring money and people to Alaska. Huge push years ago to promote Alaska tourism to get more money into the state economy. And now this has come to fruition. Geez, we have live TV now, not recorded 2 week old delays on tape that took 72 minutes for a 60 minute show, sorry this weeks episode with be a repeat due to weather caused flight delay or half through the show, it stops, only recieved half of this weeks episode on tape.

As far as the show, I know a couple of them, its more scripted hollywoodland that will bring more uneducated people to Alaska. Only one is a moron, the others I know are solid Alaskans but when you are directed to say and do things for a TV audience sitting at home in big city American, this is what you get.

I watched the first episode and part of another, not again.

 

[HiCaliber]

Didn't that guy also claim to have shot an elk with that 22 mag? Did you see the one where the longbow guy tried shooting a flying goose? He was not surprisingly unsuccessful.

 

[Flyingbullseye]

22 mag should be just fine when you shoot your buddy in the leg

Beat me to it. I was going to post the same thing. Once you cap your buddy in the kneecap all you have to do is just briskly walk away.

 

[Queequeg]

I saw something called "Naked and Afraid" on Discovery last Sunday. Two assholes (One male, one female) go into the Costa Rican Jungle, naked and have to survive 21 days. It is beyond ridiculous, but well within keeping with the anything for a buck mindset that panders to the increasing herd of morons, worldwide...

It was during scouting the location of this show that the producer was bitten by a Fer-De-lance snake. The photo of which has been widely circulated.

'Naked & Afraid' Stars -- Competed On Show Despite Producers' Gruesome Warning | TMZ.com

 

[EddieNFL]

More TV idiocy...

Heard this one recently (forget the show):

"You don't keep one in the pipe?"

"No, too many jams that way."