Testing (3) 6.5 Creedmoor Loads - 30 round groups @ 100 Yards

[Southpaw357]

Hey fellas, not sure if you watch Preston Moore's data driven AR-15 barrel testing videos you YT, but I am a big fan. His videos are high on information and low on opinion, the opposite of a lot of the slop found there.

Anyways, he is local to me so I reached out to him. I proposed that he shoot my precision rifle and my provided ammo for a video in exchange for sponsorship on some of his vids. He does AR stuff, so this was a bit new to him, but we had fun and I think it came out good.

I thought you guys might enjoy it since it's up our alley. All in all I'm happy with the results given factory ammunition and our set of circumstances.

Here is the link to the video and I also attached the composited 30 shot groups.
Precision Rifle Reality Check... 6.5 Creedmoor Brux Barrel at 100 Yards

 

[JR1200W3]

This is up for debate?

Is this a Reddit or ARFCOM migration?

We ask the question about accuracy, shoot 90rds of 6.5CM at 100yds and then use a WEZ simulation comparing a .6 G1 BC at 2700 something to a .4 something G1 BC at 2700 something to decide?

For starters, precision is the act of grouping, accuracy is the act of putting it in target. So what are we putting to bed? Which platform reliably and consistently provides better precision? Whether through inherent mechanical means or through shootability by an average shooter? Or are you asking which platform is more likely to deliver rounds on target at distance? Or which cartridge is more likely to deliver rounds on target with mildly challenging environmental conditions? Clearly a higher BC wins. And I don't need to watch a an AR-15 shooter shooting 90 RDS of ammo to figure that out. And I don't think this is genuinely a debatable proposition. Hence why bolt guns dominate precision rifle competition.

Or is this just a plug to increase views on monetizing someone's YouTube channel?

Boo

 

[Southpaw357]

This is up for debate?

Is this a Reddit or ARFCOM migration?

We ask the question about accuracy, shoot 90rds of 6.5CM, and then use a WEZ simulation comparing a .6 G1 BC at 2700 something to a .4 something G1 BC at 2700 something to decide?

For starters, precision is the act of grouping, accuracy is the act of putting it in target. So what are we putting to bed? Which platform reliably and consistently provides better precision? Whether through inherent mechanical means or through shootability by an average shooter? Or are you asking which platform is more likely to deliver rounds on target at distance? Or which cartridge is more likely to deliver rounds on target with mildly challenging environmental conditions? Clearly a higher BC wins. And I don't need to watch a an AR-15 shooter shooting 90 RDS of ammo to figure that out. And I don't think this is genuinely a debatable proposition. Hence why bolt guns dominate precision rifle competition.

Or is this just a plug to increase views on monetizing someone's YouTube channel?

Boo

Take a deep breath and relax there bud, you’ll live longer. It’s a clickbait title, we all know how our rifles perform compared to 223 gas guns. I dont care about the views, I wanted to share his work.

I thought the results of shooting (3) 30 round groups of 3 different factory loads would be interesting for people who may consider buying these loads.

The AR comparison is for shits and giggles. The data collection on the 3 loads was solid and informative.

I updated the title of the thread for clarity.

 

[JR1200W3]

Take a deep breath and relax there bud, you’ll live longer. It’s a clickbait title, we all know how our rifles perform compared to 223 gas guns. I dont care about the views, I wanted to share his work.

I thought the results of shooting (3) 30 round groups of 3 different factory loads would be interesting for people who may consider buying these loads.

The AR comparison is for shits and giggles. The data collection on the 3 loads was solid and informative.

I updated the title of the thread for clarity.

FU. Don't condescend.

Lame video. That's all.

 

[Southpaw357]

FU. Don't condescend.

Lame video. That's all.

Thanks for watching!

 

[JR1200W3]

Thanks for watching!

I wish I could un-watch. Genuine question. If I go back and shit all over him in the comments, does that help his monetization or no?

But seriously, stick to YouTube instead of bringing that amateur ARFCOM stuff in here.

 

[Southpaw357]

I wish I could un-watch. Genuine question. If I go back and shit all over him in the comments, does that help his monetization or no?

But seriously, stick to YouTube instead of bringing that amateur ARFCOM stuff in here.

I hope you have a relaxed and peaceful day

 

[bfoosh006]

To be blunt... the 6.5CM Rifle v. the AR15 wasn't surprising to me and I image most others.
But still educational to some.

I am always interested in how well some ammo and firearms perform, so thanks for sharing.

I also find Preston Moore's videos interesting and more focused on just the info, without the added opinions.

 

[NHPiper]

I enjoy watching his stuff and came across the video in my feed yesterday. Shooting 10+ round groups is much more informative and telling of the loads than 5 round groups. I like this approach, hope he does more with other barrels and bolt guns.

 

[Southpaw357]

To be blunt... the 6.5CM Rifle v. the AR15 wasn't surprising to me and I image most others.
But still educational to some.

I am always interested in how well some ammo and firearms perform, so thanks for sharing.

I also find Preston Moore's videos interesting and more focused on just the info, without the added opinions.

Glad you enjoyed it!

 

[Southpaw357]

I enjoy watching his stuff and came across the video in my feed yesterday. Shooting 10+ round groups is much more informative and telling of the loads than 5 round groups. I like this approach, hope he does more with other barrels and bolt guns.

Thanks for the feedback! Glad you liked it.

 

[Clint E.]

I like it, good to see someone actually using a valid number of shots in their groups for once! I am assuming the aggregate was calculated using OnTarget software? If we had the SD Radius for the 30 shot aggregate we could compare and see if the groups are actually different from one another. My guess is that the Hornady and the Federal are actually the same at the 95% confidence interval.

http://172.104.26.4:4321/

 

[JR1200W3]

I hope you have a relaxed and peaceful day

You should change the title of the thread back so people can watch the video in the context that it was originally intended. You've softened and slightly changed the description to make the video seem more innocuous. Just some dude shooting groups with a bolt gun.

 

[Southpaw357]

You should change the title of the thread back so people can watch the video in the context that it was originally intended. You've softened and slightly changed the description to make the video seem more innocuous. Just some dude shooting groups with a bolt gun.

Here you go king:

 

[Southpaw357]

I like it, good to see someone actually using a valid number of shots in their groups for once!

Agreed!

 

[JR1200W3]

Here you go king:

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You should own that stupid premise like a scarlet letter so we can all see where you're at on this precision rifle journey. Don't try to white wash it and conceal what you were doing.