The hits keep coming, roger ailes, bill orielly,bannon alex jones.

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In the last 3 weeks its pretty obvious there has been a concentrated attack on right wing media figures. They took out bill o'rielly today. Alex jones in the last couple of weeks. (No matter what ya think of the guy ill always respect him how he casterated pierce morgan on live tv.) He had to apologize on the pizza gate deal and say he was a entertainer to keep his kids. Bannon what more can you say.

these guys may have done some dirt and my not be the best humans. But its a dirty job and they align with my views more than all the lesbian haircuts popping up on every channel. And rachel madcow is now the highest rated cable news personality so let that set in on ya.
 
We are not done with this yet.

The forces of evil have latched on to some new weapon to destroy those that oppose them.
Having the lying daughters of Satan make up tons of accusations, to get rid of their opponents.

They tried with Trump, but he had his own money & was used to gutter attacks & it went nowhere (notice how once it didn't affect his election the "accuser" liars all went silent?)
But with the personalities who are employed by big corporations who are easily frightened of a lack of advertiser revenue, it is way too easy.

Just like they did to get Glenn Beck off the air when he started exposing Soros... Soros had his minons call fox and threaten an advertiser boycott because "racist..." and fox folded.
Now they are getting their pay pack on those that supported Trump.

Listen to the actual "accusations" against O'Riley.... oh he said something that made me feel uncomfortable... he didn't talk to me when I wanted him to... he made an offer at a bar in jest....
Money grubbing filth in my opinion.

Much like the filth was trying to do to Trump's daughter getting stores to stop carrying her products... because well other women don't care if you are a woman... if you don't follow the party line you are eliminated.

Expect way more lying daughters of the father of lies to start coming out of the woodwork against anyone who publically supported Trump.

 
Duke Lacrosse. UVA Rolling Stone rape case. I'm sure there are many more.
I thought part of taking a settlement was the agreement to not talk about it anymore, with no admission of guilt or crime?
At any rate, Bill is old and he has about 85 million reasons to retire. Put Tomi in the spot and light a fire.
 
I have actually like watching spicer. he cracks me up when he goes after the libtards. however, i dont watch him everyday or listen to every meeting so i am sure there is something in there i dont like.

 
Need to get some champagne and celebrate the unemployment of that bloated douchebag O'Reilly! Now all that's needed is the entire FNC to go under and Trump getting impeached! I may have to put myself in AA after all that celebration! :D
 
Need to get some champagne and celebrate the unemployment of that bloated douchebag O'Reilly! Now all that's needed is the entire FNC to go under and Trump getting impeached! I may have to put myself in AA after all that celebration! :D

Trump is not going to be impeached, if you need a way to deal with the pain try Heroin mixed with fentanal.
 
i second this Maser, hell where do i send the $20 to help you along?

#Overdose_Maser

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I actually think it's great. Fuck Fox. The most aggresive dumbing down of news I've ever seen. If you truly rely on Fox for your news then you're part of the problem. I hope Fox learns from this, sees the chance to bring in actual JOURNALISTS and uses this as the starting point to truly differentiate itself from the rest of cable news by actually being news and investigatory rather than simply mindless shit and oppositional to whatever equally banal editorialized LGBTQ vomit from MSNBC.

I just wish Hannity would have been in a murder suicide with Hernandez. And then there's Olberman... urgh... Can't have everything I suppose...
 
I actually think it's great. Fuck Fox. The most aggresive dumbing down of news I've ever seen. If you truly rely on Fox for your news then you're part of the problem. I hope Fox learns from this, sees the chance to bring in actual JOURNALISTS and uses this as the starting point to truly differentiate itself from the rest of cable news by actually being news and investigatory rather than simply mindless shit and oppositional to whatever equally banal editorialized LGBTQ vomit from MSNBC.

I just wish Hannity would have been in a murder suicide with Hernandez. And then there's Olberman... urgh... Can't have everything I suppose...

Who do you suggest for news?

ABC, NBC, CBS?

If it wasnt for Fox over the last 8 years we would have been fed only pablum and BS.

I do agree that Fox shouldnt be your only source though.

By the way journalism is dead.
 
I actually think it's great. Fuck Fox. The most aggresive dumbing down of news I've ever seen. If you truly rely on Fox for your news then you're part of the problem.

What I find hilarious is how so many FNC lovers will constantly look down upon channels like CNN and MSNBC for their "fake news" but then run right over back to FNC which spews out fake news also. And what's the defense FNC supporters always like to pull out of their asses? "It's the highest rated news channel". WHO FUCKING CARES!!!?? Ratings just means how many mindless drones watch it everyday. Doesn't make it good or accurate news.

 
What I find hilarious is how so many FNC lovers will constantly look down upon channels like CNN and MSNBC for their "fake news" but then run right over back to FNC which spews out fake news also. And what's the defense FNC supporters always like to pull out of their asses? "It's the highest rated news channel". WHO FUCKING CARES!!!?? Ratings just means how many mindless drones watch it everyday. Doesn't make it good or accurate news.

firstly, i do agree with the "who fucking cares" about ratings part. Ratings, followers, post counts, none of that shit means a damn thing. if you think they do then kim kardashian is your #1 source of information and everything she says is fact. an idiot can have a million posts but that doesnt make everything they say fact.

as a "FNC lover", as well as other news outlets but we are only talking about FNC today, i do look down upon the above mentioned news outlets for 2 reasons. 1) they are unreliable and based on opinion over the facts. 2) They blindly follow whatever anyone labeled a democrat will say without any thought of their own.

yes FNC does provide opinion pieces but it is based around more of the factual content.of course i would like to see more of the old school journalism where you present me the facts and i will decide how to interpret them. FNC is also the only news on the TV that aligns more with my views so i can watch it when i get home or i am busy. (yes it is convenience but i also take the basics of what is given during this time and research it when i have time later to validate it)

Everybody thinks that people that watch or read a certain news outlet is "part of the problem" when it is people like you and the Guinness guy that are the problem. Who fucking cares if people watch FNC or MSNBC. if that is what they want for news then so be it. some people can actually watch the shit that is thrown at them and pick out the actual facts. All of these people like yall are just bashing everyone for not doing exactly like you want them to do. its the same thing the democrats are doing with all the riots and killings and bullshit traffic blocking. granted, yall are on a forum bashing people instead of in the middle of the road so at least yall arent that pathetic. eventually, people will just get fed up and stop watching news all together because they are constantly being told they are wrong for watching XYZ news. Their isnt 1 news outlet out there that is worth a shit and even if it was, how could you believe them? it is still on the internet and it is still being broadcast so they can write and say whatever they want.

I am just a guy on the internet that likes guns..... a lot...... i really like them a lot..... so my opinion is completely worthless. take it for what it is, just an "FNC lover" explaining my side of the story to the people that find it hilarious or "dumbing me down" for watching a certain news network.
 
I love these assholes that want to put people in category because they happen to watch a particular news channel. I ask them well where the fuck do you get your information from they want to act like they are this very well informed savoy sophisticated person. Truth is they are like 99% of every one else either tv, newspaper, or the internet. Unless you were actually there you are getting it second hand from somewhere else like the rest of us. "We report you decide"......ha ha
 
I love these assholes that want to put people in category because they happen to watch a particular news channel. I ask them well where the fuck do you get your information from they want to act like they are this very well informed savoy sophisticated person. Truth is they are like 99% of every one else either tv, newspaper, or the internet. Unless you were actually there you are getting it second hand from somewhere else like the rest of us. "We report you decide"......ha ha

exactly and it is more like 3rd or 4th hand information from all the "sister" networks they pull from.
 
Everybody thinks that people that watch or read a certain news outlet is "part of the problem" when it is people like you and the Guinness guy that are the problem. Who fucking cares if people watch FNC or MSNBC. if that is what they want for news then so be it. some people can actually watch the shit that is thrown at them and pick out the actual facts. A

No, you nor I, can do that if the facts aren't actually present or presented. Case in point - the representation of 'fact' of the Zimmerman call to the police where the call was edited by CBS(?) without disclosing that fact or playing the whole unedited call. People were presented with an editorialized, agenda-driven representation of the facts. The viewer had to go and dig around with a premise of 'the truth is out there' to hear the full call.

You can get butt hurt, you can turn it around on me, I don't actually care. My point it Fox, MSNBC are drivel and Fox has the chance to make positive changes.
 
No, you nor I, can do that if the facts aren't actually present or presented. Case in point - the representation of 'fact' of the Zimmerman call to the police where the call was edited by CBS(?) without disclosing that fact or playing the whole unedited call. People were presented with an editorialized, agenda-driven representation of the facts. The viewer had to go and dig around with a premise of 'the truth is out there' to hear the full call.

You can get butt hurt, you can turn it around on me, I don't actually care. My point it Fox, MSNBC are drivel and Fox has the chance to make positive changes.

well first off i am not butt hurt, maybe a little burning from the jalapenos in my eggs but that has nothing to do with you or this thread.

second, as i stated clearly, i take what i get from the news and research it later on to validate it. paragraph 3 in the parentheses.

"yes FNC does provide opinion pieces but it is based around more of the factual content.of course i would like to see more of the old school journalism where you present me the facts and i will decide how to interpret them. FNC is also the only news on the TV that aligns more with my views so i can watch it when i get home or i am busy. (yes it is convenience but i also take the basics of what is given during this time and research it when i have time later to validate it)"

So for the zimmerman case, if i actually cared about the trial then i would have pulled the call myself and listened to it fully.
 
No, you nor I, can do that if the facts aren't actually present or presented. Case in point - the representation of 'fact' of the Zimmerman call to the police where the call was edited by CBS(?) without disclosing that fact or playing the whole unedited call. People were presented with an editorialized, agenda-driven representation of the facts. The viewer had to go and dig around with a premise of 'the truth is out there' to hear the full call.

You can get butt hurt, you can turn it around on me, I don't actually care. My point it Fox, MSNBC are drivel and Fox has the chance to make positive changes.

one more thing, i would have never heard those edited phone calls because i dont watch CBS. yes fox can make positive changes but that is the same thing as saying people can be good. im sure all the people on death row can be good people if they actually tried. does that mean that they will or that they want to? no.

I would love to know what news program you watch that doesnt need improvement. everybody talks so much shit about news channels but yet cannot come up with a news outlet that is better. I bet you watch FNC all the time and then just bitch about it.
 
What is everyone's opinion on One America News?

I see them as a work in progress. The presenters are not celebrities. They present the news in a monotone fashion that tries to be fact based. I know it is a conservative slant but kind of on the "America First" line rather than "Political Party First" line. If there is much journalism its of the just got out of college level, needs work but they seem hungry to attain bigger things rather than block for a political party.

I think their editorial shows suck so they don't interest me. I watch it as another source of news that isn't presented with Shepard Smith sneers.

I really like their between news commercials regarding history or with a snippet of some Presidents speech - they tend to be pro America.
 
one more thing, i would have never heard those edited phone calls because i dont watch CBS. yes fox can make positive changes but that is the same thing as saying people can be good. im sure all the people on death row can be good people if they actually tried. does that mean that they will or that they want to? no.

I would love to know what news program you watch that doesnt need improvement. everybody talks so much shit about news channels but yet cannot come up with a news outlet that is better. I bet you watch FNC all the time and then just bitch about it.

I don't watch, consistently, a single news place. If a topic is hitting mainstream then I typically just google it and go to message boards to read around the topic. It's time consuming, but I sometimes get pulled into long conference calls...

I also favor books such as Suskind's. While obviously not 'news', the analysis presents a solid framework for judging future news and future research.

As an example - climate change. I was told that the oceans off gabs more CO2 than anything else and I took that on face value. I then read more into the topic and discovered, that the rate of oceanic off gassing is accelerated as the oceans warm.... cause/effect etc.

Referring to Suskind now, his book "1% doctrine" gave the best detail and account of the Patriot Act (piece of shit legislation from a piece of shit admin). It details just how close Cheney came to destroying fundamental pieces of the Constitution in favor of 'security'. No single news outlet reported an investigative expose on the Patriot Act and for me, the fact that Obama did nothing to dismantle it was his biggest failing as President. A historical looking book giving me a framework to judge future events.
 
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What is everyone's opinion on One America News?

I see them as a work in progress. The presenters are not celebrities. They present the news in a monotone fashion that tries to be fact based. I know it is a conservative slant but kind of on the "America First" line rather than "Political Party First" line. If there is much journalism its of the just got out of college level, needs work but they seem hungry to attain bigger things rather than block for a political party.

I think their editorial shows suck so they don't interest me. I watch it as another source of news that isn't presented with Shepard Smith sneers.

I really like their between news commercials regarding history or with a snippet of some Presidents speech - they tend to be pro America.

never seen that one before. ill check it out. i have "breaking news" and "63red" apps. breaking news would give me things that are happening from around the world. no opinions, just facts. and 63red is like a conservative google news app that has all kinds of links to different sites with all the news.

what is really sad, is your last statement. we have to search for Pro America sites when they should be everywhere. what happened to loving your country?
 
Bro, you just described FNC. The only difference is that they are on the other side of the political spectrum. Fox and MSNBC are the same, just on opposite ends of the scale.

Since one aligns with your own political views, it feels better. They present what you are already comfortable hearing, so you perceive them as "Fair and Balanced." Your mind doesn't trigger on any of its flaws because overall, it's what you wanted to hear. The others present a world view you don't like, so your defense mechanisms catch every flaw and notice every slight bias. I assure you, others see those exact flaws and bias' in FNC. All that's perfectly natural. It's why you have different channels serving different market segments.

I try and watch all the sources. I watch FNC. I used to watch it a lot more, but it seems over the years to have become more and more extreme. I still like Chris Wallace's show, but I'll even watch Sean Hannity a bit sometimes (but I have to sedate myself first). I watch FNC, MSNBC, CNN. I read everything from National Review and Wall Street Journal to Huffington Post. One thing I've learned over the years is that every side can have little bits of the truth. If you are really honest and serious about wanting to understand the truth you'll listen to people even when you violently disagree. Sometimes, if you are honest, you'll realize that even your most hated enemy can have a valid point occasionally.

So I agree with you, you need to pick through what you are fed to pick out the truth from talking points. But I would encourage you to still challenge yourself by honestly, and fairly examining a wide range of sources, even ones that make you want to pull your hair out.

Or you can simply pick a side, move to that media source, learn all the slogans and talking points by heart, only talk with and listen to people who already exactly agree with what you have chosen to believe (your side is ALWAYS right, the other sided is ALWAYS wrong), shut your mind down and simply root for your team/tribe. (You see a lot of that around here. ;))

I am not saying FNC is perfect by any stretch and cannot speak on behalf of any show that is on from 8pm through 7-730 pm the next day. honestly, i dont even remember who is usually on when i do watch it. i really wish they would have a sports center style news that would fit me a lot better. quick 1-2 min sections with just facts and on to the next one but need to keep the espn sound.

yes FNC aligns more with me than the rest, mainly due to common sense, but that doesnt mean we get along 100% or that the other side doesnt have a valid point like you said. i will agree with something if it lines up with what i believe is right even if it is from someone that is hated. i chose to watch FNC over the others because they have let me down the least when it comes to televised news channels.

in fact, you could consider me a very untrustworthy watcher since i do have to verify everything they say. they get it wrong less than the others and that is why i watch them.

My whole point was about people coming on here and bashing other people because they choose to watch a certain news program. its all the same news bullshit spun to make you watch them more than the others. 90% of it is just hot air being wasted, 9% is someone that knows nothing about the topic trying to sound relevant and the last 1% is fact. most of the time that 1% is constantly changing as more information rolls in from people trying to do actual journalism.
 
They all cherry pick what to tell you, based on their slant. All of them.
There are no apolitical journalists. There are only activists.
Does FOX slant? Yes. Do I learn things on FOX that CNN and the others never mention? Yes. Do I cross-check the sources on the serious stories? Yes.

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I agree they all do it. I think it is human nature. I don't think there is any possible way around. Even journalists are human beings (stop laughing). They have a viewpoint. They can try an be balanced, but it will always have it's effect. Even without comment, if it is just what questions you decide to ask. That's why I suggest sampling a variety of sources. Even ones that don't represent your personal view. However most people only consume the media that tells them what they want to hear so they can mindlessly nod along in brain-numbed confirmation bias.


OH SHUT UP!!! that was funny.