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The lottery
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Waayyyyyyyy too old for that troop!Just join the Corp......
I've won $2 every week that I haven't played since I turned 18.
That's close to $3K, or a really nice Savage rifle that I can shoot F-Class with.
Does that count?
That's close to $3K, or a really nice Savage rifle that I can shoot F-Class with.
Does that count?
Met the guy in central Washington that won like $350 mil. At the shithole golf course where he drank with his old buddies almost daily. He built a big house there, but not a palatial estate. That table had some dudes who’d done some noteworthy stuff and guys who just liked to drink… wouldn’t know he was a huge lottery winner.
Edit: he won half of 380 mil-
Edit: he won half of 380 mil-
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Not worth it, honestly. For every winner that stands up there collecting a zillion $$$ lottery prize, there are tens of thousands of people around them trying to take it away from them. From family members that need emergency surgery to idiots who think they can sue you into oblivion. You have to have a good security and legal teams (also costing big $$$) to survive. You also have to prove to Uncle Sam that you aren't investing in anything "illegal" (like drugs or terrorism). You also have to give up some of your privacy, depending on the lottery commissions' policies. Some will let you get away with just a name and a "likeness" (picture) just to show it was awarded to an "elligible person." Others will want to parade you in front of dozens of electronic media reps, etc. etc., all for their marketing efforts... and repeat that parading for a number of years.
You have to be willing to say "NO" to family members, friends, charities, etc. etc. and suffer the consequences of that (isolation from your family & friends). And, most importantly, you have to manage your lifestyle and ensure you don't go much beyond your "pre-lottery" lifestyle. Or that money will be gone, quickly enough!
Thanks, but no thanks! Well, maybe if it's a small award like 5 Million (just enough to stay under the Federal Estate tax threshold), then I'd be cool. But, otherwise, Nope!
You have to be willing to say "NO" to family members, friends, charities, etc. etc. and suffer the consequences of that (isolation from your family & friends). And, most importantly, you have to manage your lifestyle and ensure you don't go much beyond your "pre-lottery" lifestyle. Or that money will be gone, quickly enough!
Thanks, but no thanks! Well, maybe if it's a small award like 5 Million (just enough to stay under the Federal Estate tax threshold), then I'd be cool. But, otherwise, Nope!
Wife's uncle won 3.5 mil.
I have never played. All the damn EBT card swiping, picking lottery game numbers like they are in a bakery choosing doughnutswith all the time in the world, getting in the damn way, holding up working people assholes in convenience stores have made it to the point I never go in one.
I have never played. All the damn EBT card swiping, picking lottery game numbers like they are in a bakery choosing doughnutswith all the time in the world, getting in the damn way, holding up working people assholes in convenience stores have made it to the point I never go in one.
Yeah, but if you had played, by now you would have won enough to buy a quality rifle.
Ditch the wallet and jump over the border. Just as good and more than you'll ever win buying tickets.
Hopefully you didn't miss my reference to someone who has been spewing garbage in the "legit" forums.
Yeah, it's where all the three shot groups get posted.
The lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math
Depends on the amount. If you were the sole winner of a billion $ jackpot? Give the immediate family $1 million to fuck off and remind them of it if they ever ask again.
Then you could die spending a million $ a year and never spend it all.
I'd claim it under a trust (state requires a name) and take the 20 year option. Even if I kick it, wife and kids will still receive money from the trust monthly. Even a few million reinvested and not spent like crazy would be easy to live on.
Also easy to turn the vultures away when "I have no bills, but I only get paid $5k/month from my trust. Can't access any other money to invest in your schemes!"
Unless you’re scamming the lottery like those folks did back East, which they frown upon, it’s the .gov’s way of taxing stupid poor people.
The folks that bought the place that surrounded my grandparents’ place did so because they won $200k in the lotto in the early ‘90’s. About 50 acres, renovated the house, barns and bought some higher dollar cutting horses. It was the wife’s dream. Just created more work for the husband after his day job. Further proof that horse chicks are fun to ride, but too high maintenance.
The folks that bought the place that surrounded my grandparents’ place did so because they won $200k in the lotto in the early ‘90’s. About 50 acres, renovated the house, barns and bought some higher dollar cutting horses. It was the wife’s dream. Just created more work for the husband after his day job. Further proof that horse chicks are fun to ride, but too high maintenance.
That's when 2000 other "cousins" pop up from all over the place and you can't make heads or tails of them.
Honestly, I really wouldn't know how to spend that kind of $$$. Like i say, "unaltered lifestyle." Ideally, I'd want to save, re-invest and build on that wealth so that I could become conservative's answer to George Soros. If nothing else, then start a foundation that finds young, smart kids that are willing to learn and work hard, and fund their education. They'd be taught how to think for themselves, and not be "indoctrinated." All I'd ask in return is that they "pay it forward" and do the same thing for the next generation of kids.
That might work. I gather it would have to be an irrevocable trust, though. I dunno about the "annuity vs. lump sum" dilemma, though. To me, that's a question of; 1) Tax strategy (which will result in the least amount of tax over the funding period) and 2) how much cash do I need immediately vs. not. If you do the 20 yr annuity, there's always the risk of tax rates sky rocketting in later years. I''d be leaning more towards the lump sum. I can't see tax rates ever going "down." Not to that degree, at least.
I can turn the vultures away. The problem is dealing with all the idiots that want to throw frivilous litigation against you. Even though frivilous, they do cost money to defend. And I'm not sure how much you could recover by "counter suits, etc." Probably the 1st thing I'd do even prior to claiming the prize is get a 2nd & 3rd new phone number and then abandon the og one as soon as I collected it, at least giving my close family a way to contact me. Then whatever my security people and media handlers suggest I do, short of re-dying my hair and entering the "Witness Protection Program."
The government wins the lottery every time a person wins.
I know a guy who won 50k in some type of state lotto deal. He got about half of that after taxes and bought a car. I think he owned the car for about 6 months and then sold it, probably for a loss. Seems like the people who probably shouldn't be responsible for any amount of money are the ones who seem to be consistent lotto players.
Guy at work won 1 million a few years ago, not a substantial amount anymore but something that could of been used towards retirement. (Winnings not taxed in Canada) Ended up divorced, lost house, young kids. Would of been better off not winning
I got to breath for another day . You never know just how important breathing is till you can't do it .
I say let's have a national lottery system to replace the IRS and the conventional tax code. Just look at how many people willingly stand in line to hand over their money for the slim chance of hitting it big.
It won't happen because the current tax code is all about control of the masses.
It won't happen because the current tax code is all about control of the masses.
At the end of a night of gambling, a friend of mine was walking out of a casino, threw a $20 into a $5.00 slot and won a million.
Years ago they did a TV show where they "planted" a briefcase with 100k in it. When the guy found it he tossed it in the dumpster thinking it was drug money and they would come and kill him.
So much for the watch from a blind approach, so they went and got the money and explained it to the guy.
To these people $100k seems like a shit ton of money, back when this was made it was a great deal more then today, but still not much. He bought a new truck (all these numbers are ball park), there goes $30k, he bought his best friend a used car, $5k gone.
Shock of all shock a human with a.....well.....cunt arrives and lives up to that. Inside of six months he is homeless again, divorced the truck is long gone. But he said he had fun.
IIRC they even provided the dude with an advisor how to make the money last. He would hear none of it.
After seeing this was an epiphany moment for me. These people....or at least some (most) of these people choose to live this way. This is what they want. If handed the golden ticket and given step by step instructions on how to get out of where they are and into "society" they don't want to do that, too hard, their money they will do what they want. What happened.
This dude did not blame anyone however he said he made all the choices and this was the result, but he had a fun time.
So much for the watch from a blind approach, so they went and got the money and explained it to the guy.
To these people $100k seems like a shit ton of money, back when this was made it was a great deal more then today, but still not much. He bought a new truck (all these numbers are ball park), there goes $30k, he bought his best friend a used car, $5k gone.
Shock of all shock a human with a.....well.....cunt arrives and lives up to that. Inside of six months he is homeless again, divorced the truck is long gone. But he said he had fun.
IIRC they even provided the dude with an advisor how to make the money last. He would hear none of it.
After seeing this was an epiphany moment for me. These people....or at least some (most) of these people choose to live this way. This is what they want. If handed the golden ticket and given step by step instructions on how to get out of where they are and into "society" they don't want to do that, too hard, their money they will do what they want. What happened.
This dude did not blame anyone however he said he made all the choices and this was the result, but he had a fun time.
I've got no family left, only a couple old good friends that wouldnt have to ask, I'd fatten them up because theyre friends. Then buy a small ranch somewhere quiet and disappear. Anybody that comes looking for a hand out gits the Maggot signature declination.
Cunts alre like mold, they just show up and are hard to get rid of.
As Pop used to say, "Its not how much you earn (or win) its how much you keep."
About 15yrs ago...the factory next door to the one I worked for had like 20 or so employees go in weekly on the state lotto. They won it. Each got something like 2 mil....and there was a husband/wife duo or two that each got a slice of it.
I tell you...I heard one guy fixed up his house. But other than that...haven't heard a thing from any of them. Some moved away I'm sure. Probably because the amounts even back then wasn't all that much really they couldn't do a whole lot.
I tell you...I heard one guy fixed up his house. But other than that...haven't heard a thing from any of them. Some moved away I'm sure. Probably because the amounts even back then wasn't all that much really they couldn't do a whole lot.
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