thinking about getting a receiver...wondering which offer the following features.

[want2learn]

I feel somewhat silly asking but i've never had a custom rifle made and running through some of the options on the site i know i'm still missing some very good options that perhaps aren't often discussed in more common threads.

i appreciate the help/direction/recommendations.

looking for an action that would have the following attributes:
caliber 6.5
60 to 80 degree bolt rotation
controlled feed
works well with aw type magazine
one piece integral 20 degree rail and recoil lug
short to medium length action


anything else i should look for? thank you again.

 

[Ledzep]

If AW mags working is a priority, get an AI.

Otherwise Mausingfield, Archimedes, Zermatt/bighorn TL3. Surely others exist that I'm not aware of or I'm forgetting.

None of the 3 I listed have integral rails, and the ARC actions aren't AW cut, but I hear more problems than success stories running AW mags in M700 footprint actions.

 

[tickridge]

Just got my Bighorn SR3 short action wyatt extend box 6.5PRC workmanship is excellent came in on the date they told me it would Ray a great and knowledgeable guy

 

[Lunchbox27]

Terminus Zeus will do all that, minus control round feed.

 

[want2learn]

i thought perhaps aw magazines were optimal as they were double stack...so not too long and they fed from the middle of the magazine....is that not the preferred magazine nowadays?

 

[Healy]

Pretty sure I seen aw mags chunked into the woods at the last prs match I attended

 

[b6graham]

i thought perhaps aw magazines were optimal as they were double stack...so not too long and they fed from the middle of the magazine....is that not the preferred magazine nowadays?

AW dont feed from the middle. and that's why they typically are more common with 3 lug actions. but AW is available for 2 lugs (impact, LP, Zermatt, Defiance) some people report they dont feed as well from 2 lugs. other dont have issues.

there can be issues with AICS mags overinserting or binding the bolt. or mag catch issues

AW dont take extensions which are useful for PRS matches.

 

[mi223]

With all of the magazine options today, aw mags really is not a concern. The mdt 12 rd mags are shorter than the magpul 10rd mags. They use a double stack single feed.

I went origin and i would recommend that to others but it dont meet all your criteria.

 

[6brshooter]

Controlled rd feed and the 60-80° part has me stumped.

 

[want2learn]

wow, thank you.....then please forget the desire for AW mags.
I guess if the AICS bind and have mag catch problems and the AW mags aren't great then which magazine is preferred nowadays?

is there a desirable action that has the following attributes and i'll go for whatever magazine is currently preferred?
caliber 6.5
60 to 80 degree bolt rotation
controlled feed
one piece integral 20 degree rail and recoil lug
short to medium length action

 

[6brshooter]

I guess I haven't had a problem with impacts, badger, ai, or deadline, as far as binding on aics mags. All can rest on there mags and still cycle bolt.

Aw mags are good, but as mention they need to be in a 3 lug action for optimal performance. A 2 lug action doesnt make enough contact on top rd to strip it reliably. Double stack, centerfeed(aics) mags always feed the smoothest.

 

[Huskydriver]

Why controlled round feed?

Only controlled round feed that's 100% reliable imo is a Mauser style like the mausingfield but I hated the bolt lift and bolt close on mine but was stupid smooth running it full speed back and forth.

The tl3 I had was good but every once in awhile a case rim can slip over over the extractor if I got a little too hot with load development and the case was a tad sticky. Factory sb 6.5creed 140 gr ammo wouldn't extract period from my tl3. I tried 3 different extractors but none of them were 100% all the time.

The terminus zeus would be my first choice right now with your other criteria but isn't crf. Second would be an impact

 

[kthomas]

Why controlled round feed?

Only controlled round feed that's 100% reliable imo is a Mauser style like the mausingfield but I hated the bolt lift and bolt close on mine but was stupid smooth running it full speed back and forth.

Bolt lift and close is stupidly light on my Mausingfield, I attribute that to being properly mated to the BnA Tacsport trigger. My friends Mausingfield with Huber feels 3x heavier on bolt lift and close - how heavy his felt would really annoy me.

I think the ARC Mausingfield checks most of the boxes that the OP wants. The rail isn't integral, but it's keyed/slotted and that thing isn't moving, even with all the bolts completely loose (well, the M5 version anyways. Can't speak to the new M7 version).

I'm not sure what's driving your criteria, but I'm sure you would be happy with a plethora of actions available today. Very few if any check all the boxes you want, but I would be surprised if you weren't happy with most of what's available these days.

 

[Huskydriver]

Bolt lift and close is stupidly light on my Mausingfield, I attribute that to being properly mated to the BnA Tacsport trigger. My friends Mausingfield with Huber feels 3x heavier on bolt lift and close - how heavy his felt would really annoy me.

I think the ARC Mausingfield checks most of the boxes that the OP wants. The rail isn't integral, but it's keyed/slotted and that thing isn't moving, even with all the bolts completely loose (well, the M5 version anyways. Can't speak to the new M7 version).

I'm not sure what's driving your criteria, but I'm sure you would be happy with a plethora of actions available today. Very few if any check all the boxes you want, but I would be surprised if you weren't happy with most of what's available these days.

I had a low serial number from the early dlc receiver's. Arc cs to help me fix it was none existent and basically told me sorry sounds like it's fine but you can pay shipping and ins both ways to check it out...in tried 3 diff triggers the TT diamond had the least amount of cock on close. My buddy has a newerish mausingfield his sounds like yours and is way lighter on the up and down. It's a great action but I still prefer my axmc ?

 

[want2learn]

thanks...that helps a lot.

I too wasn't terribly fond of the feel of the mausingfield action, granted i have very little experience with much of this but at a class one of the students was kind enough to let me shoot a round from his rifle and so i set up really carefully as we were instructed and when i was in a good position i cycled the bolt and the bump on closing seemed to disrupt my set up. It shot fine but i didn't like that feeling.

Glad to hear that the double stack AICS magazines work well....i guess that's the way to go.

Maybe it's just that i'm used to controlled feed rifles from my Dad's old rifles, It would seem to be a very secure way to feed rounds....perhaps that's passe or a misconception. If this characteristic has been overshadowed by more modern designs i guess it's time to grow with the times.

 

[SCGunner84]

I’m hoping to get a Terminus Zeus in the near future and I’m really interested in the Zermatt Arms Rimx also.

 

[kthomas]

thanks...that helps a lot.

I too wasn't terribly fond of the feel of the mausingfield action, granted i have very little experience with much of this but at a class one of the students was kind enough to let me shoot a round from his rifle and so i set up really carefully as we were instructed and when i was in a good position i cycled the bolt and the bump on closing seemed to disrupt my set up. It shot fine but i didn't like that feeling.

My Mausingfield doesn't have a noticeable bump on close at all. Maybe it wasn't broken in and that plunger spring was stiff? Mine closes like butter.

Maybe mine is the exception, because any complaints I hear about the Mausingfield I personally don't have issues with/notice. I'm picky with actions, and have a few other high end ones to compare with. If I didn't like the Mausingfield, I would've dumped it long ago.

Anyways, lot's of great actions to pick form, even of you don't want a Mausingfield.

 

[Bakwa]

Give up the controlled feed, be open minded on the mag sitch, and embrace the Tikka CTR!
;-)

 

[armydog]

GAP temptress or Zeus from I can't remember what the company is.
Its terminus the name of the company that would be my first choice as they have a quick Barrel change option

 

[want2learn]

thanks, i'll read about them.

trying to be open minded....definitely open to new ideas and appreciate the help and information