So I have been using a fixture and it works OK. I know a lot of guys use the 4 jaw chuck are you using shims of some sort or soft jaws? I really do not want to use my outboard spider I do not like the way it puts stress on the barrel. Anyone see any issues I am missing with just using the 4 jaw with shims for action truing and barrel work ? Some where on here someone made a fixture that uses collet's but I am not able to find the post but that might be something I might think about using beside the 4 jaw. I guess I am just looking for something more and I really do not want to buy a True Bore alignment system at this point.