This may be a big deal to the Hughes Amendment

[Dispatcher91]

It's kind of odd. If I read this correctly it is still illegal to own a machine gun, but machine guns are bearable arms and therefore legal under Heller.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ksd.146873/gov.uscourts.ksd.146873.35.0.pdf

"Defendant Tamori Morgan is charged with two counts of possessing a machinegun in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 922(o). (Doc. 1.) Specifically, Defendant is charged with possessing an Anderson Manufacturing, model AM-15 .300 caliber machinegun and a machinegun conversion device. It was established at the hearing that the conversion device is a so-called “Glock switch” which allows a Glock, model 33, .357 SIG caliber firearm to fire as an automatic weapon."

"The government fails to address these facts, and thus fails to meet its burden to demonstrate that Case 6:23-cr-10047-JWB Document 35 Filed 08/21/24 Page 8 of 10possession of the types of weapons at issue in this case are lawfully prohibited under the Second Amendment. To summarize, in this case, the government has not met its burden under Bruen and Rahimito demonstrate through historical analogs that regulation of the weapons at issue in this case are consistent with the nation’s history of firearms regulation. Indeed, the government has barely tried to meet that burden."

 

[MK20]

It's because the government cannot. The government tested commercially available machine guns, exactly per NFA definition, in the 1790's on Alexander Hamilton's property.

They were called Chambers Flintlocks and they fired around 200 rounds in sequence with a single function of the trigger.

 

[Soulezoo]

Doesn't really matter. Even if the plain language and reasoning suggests that the "machine guns" are allowed under Bruen and etc., there's NO inferior court (district or appeals) that would allow "machine guns" to be lawfully possessed. You would unlikely have any supreme court justice support it. Automatic weapons appear to be the bright red line that jurists are loathe to cross. Just recently, I believe it was the 4th (or 2nd) court of appeals that stated that AR15 semi-automatic rifles were not "arms" and therefore not protected against the second amendment.
Don't be fooled into thinking that the courts actually want to apply law as intended. They will only do so as THEY intend.

 

[Ronws]

Doesn't really matter. Even if the plain language and reasoning suggests that the "machine guns" are allowed under Bruen and etc., there's NO inferior court (district or appeals) that would allow "machine guns" to be lawfully possessed. You would unlikely have any supreme court justice support it. Automatic weapons appear to be the bright red line that jurists are loathe to cross. Just recently, I believe it was the 4th (or 2nd) court of appeals that stated that AR15 semi-automatic rifles were not "arms" and therefore not protected against the second amendment.
Don't be fooled into thinking that the courts actually want to apply law as intended. They will only do so as THEY intend.

So, remove them from power. Take the out of their position.

 

[Dispatcher91]

Before the cat gets out of the bag is anyone gonna drill that third hole?

 

[kl3309]

Before the cat gets out of the bag is anyone gonna drill that third hole?

Found the fed.

 

[jmp1]

Before the cat gets out of the bag is anyone gonna drill that third hole?

 

[MadDuner]

Found the fed.

We’d really get out of control if they didn’t remind us they are watching every day.

 

[thejeep]

Before the cat gets out of the bag is anyone gonna drill that third hole?

 

[Ronws]

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Damn it, I wish I had done this one.

Well, kudos and congrats.

 

[BCP]

I believe it was the 4th (or 2nd)

I think there were two, a court in Maryland/Delaware and another in Illinois.

Machine guns are a definite NO, "scary guns" are a quasi no, after awhile pistols will be on the menu especially smaller ones like snub nose 38.

 

[cas6969]

Before the cat gets out of the bag is anyone gonna drill that third hole?

 

[wvfarrier]

Appeals Court will absolutely reverse and remand this one

 

[Soulezoo]

Appeals Court will absolutely reverse and remand this one

I agree. Four Boxes Diner just did a quick video on this topic and he says as much.

 

[Dispatcher91]

My new avatar:

 

[Franko]

Gonna need more Trump appointed judges for this to go anywhere. Even then it will be an uphill climb because many are afraid of freedom.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Over two centuries of lawyers have "muddied the water" to the point of delirium on a document that was otherwise written intentionally in plain language to avoid it from ever being "muddied".

-LD

 

[SilentStalkr]

Before the cat gets out of the bag is anyone gonna drill that third hole?

I always drill the 3rd hole. I mean I get things started off with hole number one of course and then slowly move to hole number two and sometimes I accidentally drill into #3 but make no mistake I always finish there. Oh, y’all are talking about guns, my mistake.

 

[Jgunner]

I am down. Idk if my transferables loose 95% of their value.