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    PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Starbucks hopes customers will be willing to pay at least $5 more when they stop in for their morning cup of Joe.

    Starting Nov. 1, Starbucks will begin collecting donations of $5 or more from customers to stimulate U.S. job growth through its "Jobs for USA" program. The Seattle-based coffee chain is collaborating with the Opportunity Finance Network, a nonprofit that works with nearly 200 community development financial institutions to provide loans to small businesses and community groups. Starbucks says 100 percent of the donations will go toward loans for firms and organizations that can add jobs or stem job losses.

    Starbucks, which pioneered how Americans drink coffee, declined to estimate how much money it plans to raise, but millions of people visit its nearly 7,000 company-owned U.S. stores each day. Customers who give will get a red, white and blue wristband that says "Indivisible."

    "This is about using Starbuck's scale for good," said Howard Schultz, Starbucks Corp.'s CEO.

    The program is the latest effort by Schultz to address the nation's economic woes. In August, he sent more than 200,000 Starbucks employees a memo urging them to do what they can to help business thrive. Then, he asked fellow CEOs to stop contributing to political campaigns until the nation's leaders reached a long-term economic solution. After that, he hosted a national telephone forum, bought full-page ads in two major newspapers and started a website, Upwardspiral2011.org.

    Schultz said he feels personal responsibility to do something to stimulate the U.S. economy. Starbucks is hiring about 200 people a day in the U.S. as part of its efforts to remodel thousands of stores and add about 200 more locations in the next year. But Schultz said he wanted to do more.

    Starbucks is covering the operational costs to get loans out through the program, which will run indefinitely. Its charitable arm, The Starbucks Foundation, is giving $5 million to get the program started, with the hope that funds will be invested in communities within a month of a donation being made.

    Opportunity Finance Network works with 180 financial institutions -- banks, credit, unions, loan funds and venture capital funds -- that give loans in low-income communities that don't have easy access to credit. The organization, created 27 years ago, has invested $23.2 billion and generated nearly 300,000 jobs through 2009.

    Loans through the network have supported everything from charter schools to grocery stores nationwide. The organization found that, even during the recession, more than 98 percent of the money loaned out has been repaid, which is in line with traditional lenders.

    Through the program, businesses will apply to financial institutions, which along with the Opportunity Finance Network will assess their potential for adding jobs. Preference will be given to applicants who can add jobs within six months. An outside organization will audit the program within a year.

    "We want to match up every person who has $5 to share with every person who can't spare $5," said Mark Pinsky, CEO of Opportunity Finance Network.

    The effort has the potential to be successful, say some experts. Community institutions succeed, they say, because they understand the needs in the areas they serve.

    "I think it's a really worthy effort," said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics. "In theory, this is a great idea and should have impact."

    Online: For more information, visit createjobsforusa.org or for information on Opportunity Finance Network and how to find a community development funding institution, visit opportunityfinance.net
     
    Re: this seems like the right direction.......

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">


    PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Starbucks hopes customers will be willing to pay at least $5 more when they stop in for their morning cup of Joe.

    "We want to match up every person who has $5 to share with every person who can't spare $5," said Mark Pinsky, CEO of Opportunity Finance Network.
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    Ummm... No
     
    Re: this seems like the right direction.......

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">


    PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- Starbucks hopes customers will be willing to pay at least $5 more when they stop in for their morning cup of Joe.

    "We want to match up every person who has $5 to share with every person who can't spare $5," said Mark Pinsky, CEO of Opportunity Finance Network.
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    Ummm... No

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    "Starbucks says 100 percent of the donations will go toward loans for firms and organizations that can add jobs or stem job losses."


    Ummm... Why not?
     
    Re: this seems like the right direction.......

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jr81452</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    Ummm... Why not? </div></div>

    If you look at the lines I quoted you'll see what I was getting at, I was saying I don't have an extra $5. Hell, I don't even go to Starbucks because I don't want to spend the $5 to buy the coffee much less the extra $5... I got the Aeropress that was recommended here in the Pit and I while I use Starbucks coffee, it's far better than the coffee I can get at Starbucks and costs ~$.70/big cup.
     
    Re: this seems like the right direction.......

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jr81452</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    Ummm... Why not? </div></div>

    If you look at the lines I quoted you'll see what I was getting at, I was saying I don't have an extra $5. Hell, I don't even go to Starbucks because I don't want to spend the $5 to buy the coffee much less the extra $5... I got the Aeropress that was recommended here in the Pit and I while I use Starbucks coffee, it's far better than the coffee I can get at Starbucks and costs ~$.70/big cup. </div></div>

    Agreed that the in house coffee is pretty bad. My thought is, that we all complain about big government policies, taxing us to hand out to the poor. It just seems here, that someone is trying to do something to turn it around. I applaud that and think that this is truly the way to do things if you want to avoid big gov. BTW, HB, try Whole Foods house brand coffee. Its a lot cheaper than Starbucks, and better, imho.

    A carrot to Starbucks.

    A stick for big gov.
     
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    Hats off to Starbucks.

    With private industry helping private insustry you're gonna get better results then having the Gooberment involved.
     
    Re: this seems like the right direction.......

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kraigWY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hats off to Starbucks.

    With private industry helping private insustry you're gonna get better results then having the Gooberment involved. </div></div>

    Oh so true! But dont fret Kraig, big gooberment will find a way to get theirs out of this, they dont like to let any opportunity go to waste.
     
    Re: this seems like the right direction.......

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: maggot</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I applaud that and think that this is truly the way to do things if you want to avoid big gov.

    BTW, HB, try Whole Foods house brand coffee. Its a lot cheaper than Starbucks, and better, imho. </div></div>

    I couldn't agree more. Thanks for the tip, I've been looking for new brands to try, I'll give Whole Paycheck's a try next. This AeroPress espresso maker really brings out the flavors that I've never been able to discern when I used a drip type maker. Now coffee is a lot more interesting the differences between the roasts/brands/etc.. really shine through.
     
    Re: this seems like the right direction.......

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jr81452</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    Ummm... Why not? </div></div>

    If you look at the lines I quoted you'll see what I was getting at, I was saying I don't have an extra $5. Hell, I don't even go to Starbucks because I don't want to spend the $5 to buy the coffee much less the extra $5... I got the Aeropress that was recommended here in the Pit and I while I use Starbucks coffee, it's far better than the coffee I can get at Starbucks and costs ~$.70/big cup. </div></div>

    Sorry. I thought you were saying you disagreed with the whole concept due to the second line you quoted, not that you didn't have the money to donate referenced in the first line. Your response wasn't very specific.
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    Re: this seems like the right direction.......

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jr81452</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jr81452</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    Ummm... Why not? </div></div>

    If you look at the lines I quoted you'll see what I was getting at, I was saying I don't have an extra $5. Hell, I don't even go to Starbucks because I don't want to spend the $5 to buy the coffee much less the extra $5... I got the Aeropress that was recommended here in the Pit and I while I use Starbucks coffee, it's far better than the coffee I can get at Starbucks and costs ~$.70/big cup. </div></div>

    Sorry. I thought you were saying you disagreed with the whole concept due to the second line you quoted, not that you didn't have the money to donate referenced in the first line. Your response wasn't very specific.
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    Yeah, my bad sorry for the confusion. It's just too bad we can't get the people who could open the door to creating jobs to do so... I'm trying to get my own thing off the ground but spend hours everyday trying to figure out all the ins and outs so I don't end up sued by some litigious jerk.
     
    Re: this seems like the right direction.......

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jr81452</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jr81452</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    Ummm... Why not? </div></div>

    If you look at the lines I quoted you'll see what I was getting at, I was saying I don't have an extra $5. Hell, I don't even go to Starbucks because I don't want to spend the $5 to buy the coffee much less the extra $5... I got the Aeropress that was recommended here in the Pit and I while I use Starbucks coffee, it's far better than the coffee I can get at Starbucks and costs ~$.70/big cup. </div></div>

    Sorry. I thought you were saying you disagreed with the whole concept due to the second line you quoted, not that you didn't have the money to donate referenced in the first line. Your response wasn't very specific.
    smile.gif
    </div></div>

    Yeah, my bad sorry for the confusion. It's just too bad we can't get the people who could open the door to creating jobs to do so... I'm trying to get my own thing off the ground but spend hours everyday trying to figure out all the ins and outs so I don't end up sued by some litigious jerk. </div></div>

    I know the feeling. I'm just trying to keep the employees I have. I'd hate to have to let one go, but it's getting tough to pay them in this market.
     
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    SO instead of paying $8 for a cup of coffee they want you to pay $13 for a cup of coffee..

    Cheaper to drink drip, San Francisco Bay - Organic Rainforest blend - Yum, $18 a 3lb bag at Costco.