Thoughts on Savage's new MSR 10 6.5 Rifles...barrel Length ?'s

[Halo09]

Hello shooters! I'm trying to lean on the experience of the masses for a purchase. I'm looking at Savage's new MSR line of rifles and I'm wanting to take the 6.5 plunge. Considering that this the primary use of this rig is going to be something for PRS competitions, would you go with the 18" Barrel on the Hunter or the 22" on the Long Range? I believe the longest shots would be going out to 1000 yards. Your thoughts?

 

[hlee]

What do the PRS competitors use? My understanding is that they typically use bolt rifles. I am sure there is a reason for this...

 

[jLorenzo]

I would wait as with almost any first gen product. let them iron out the kinks and go from there. Our machining capabilities these days are pretty awesome, you should be able to get something that suits your needs. If it was me I would go with an 18" or 20" max if the gun is more long range oriented. If all your doing is shooting off a bipod and bag from a static postistion go with as long a barrel as you can get. If you will shoot it other ways go 18".
I don't see any of the barrel lengths having trouble getting a 6.5 to 1000.
Gotta love the hide, your asking about a new savage gas gun but if you not shooting an AI 6.5 your doing it all wrong

 

[Greg Langelius *]

I love the design work Savage has put into their new MSR, but for me, the whole concept is dead on arrival to me; no .260 chambering. I would like a 24" barrel, would probably spring for one with a 22" .260 barrel. But before I drop $2200 plus for one, I'd rather build two on my own. Nice guns, but more dear than I'll pay, especially without a .260 in the lineup.

Greg

 

[hlee]

I love the design work Savage has put into their new MSR, but for me, the whole concept is dead on arrival to me; no .260 chambering. I would like a 24" barrel, would probably spring for one with a 22" .260 barrel. But before I drop $2200 plus for one, I'd rather build two on my own. Nice guns, but more dear than I'll pay, especially without a .260 in the lineup.

Greg

In a mag length limited semi auto system, what does a .260 remington do that a 6.5 creedmore does not (other than limit the bullet one can effectively stuff into the case)?

 

[flyright]

The .260 has it all over the 6.5 CM. Are we all just 6.5 CM idiots?

 

[jeremyp]

Flyright, can you please explain why you think the .260 is far superior to the 6.5 creedmoor? I'm not quite seeing it... There is more high quality factory match ammo options available for the 6.5 creedmoor and if you're reloading then they are pretty much equal. I just don't see the .260 as being superior but I AM curious to hear your thoughts.

 

[Bigjake83]

Flyright, can you please explain why you think the .260 is far superior to the 6.5 creedmoor? I'm not quite seeing it... There is more high quality factory match ammo options available for the 6.5 creedmoor and if you're reloading then they are pretty much equal. I just don't see the .260 as being superior but I AM curious to hear your thoughts.

Don't feed the trolls...

 

[BCP]

I would get a bolt gun for that.

 

[flyright]

I was being facetious. I have grown tired of some of the guys at my range constantly preaching - "you shoulda got a 260, it's got way more power, you can get good brass instead of that Hornady, the 6.5 is just a flash in the pan" blah, blah, blah. I wont even argue with them anymore. I just shoot my .2's and .5's and quietly walk away. Sorry if I offended anyone. Gotta have some fun though...

 

[The King]

I have done both 6.5 and 260 gas guns. I went with 6.5 this last time because I like the ability to get factory ammo that shoots good at Cabelas. I find my gas rigs eat brass pretty bad so I don't care as much about the lapua brass in 260 as I could. I find i get 3 loadings out of either.

i would not hesitate to get a savage 6.5 msr. Remember only the long range has the side charger, which I happen to like.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

hlee;

You're probably right about the 6.5CM and mag length loads. But I also have a nearly 20yr investment in the 260, and it just makes zero sense for me to be starting that all over again with the 6.5CM.

My solution is to use the 140SMK, which is shorter than the 142SMK, still shoots as great as it always did even back before there was a 142SMK, and gives back a bit on fitting into a magazine. It would probably be just as good in your 6.5CM, too.

Then there's the 123SMK...

Greg

 

[Rprecision]

What do you think the 18" 6.5 would produce (FPS) with a 140 class bullet ?

 

[The King]

2500 to 2600 for factory loads.

 

[Rprecision]

Thanks, that was in line with my estimate

 

[LRRPF52]

I handled them at SHOT. There is a lot of thought put into the MSR-10 rifles.

ELGS
Adjustable cylinder, not set screw, with bullet tip interface through a dedicated slot in the hand guard that allows access
Small Frame receivers, not behemoths
Blended, low profile, lightweight MLOK hand guards
Nice 2-stage triggers

For the price, you will never be able to build a rifle like these. You can't get small frame receivers for starters, and the gas system they have is looking like it might be one of the ones to beat.

I'm trying to get one for review.

 

[chevytruck_83]

For factory guns I have always been happy with my savages. Would I put them up against a gun with a custom Bartlien or hawk hill barrel of course not. Thats the problem for me with the msr 10 even with its very nice features. The price is to close to what I can build one for with a high end barrel. A few hundred less and I bet they sell the heck out of these like ruger is with their rpr.

 

[WYO09]

I handled them at SHOT. There is a lot of thought put into the MSR-10 rifles.

ELGS
Adjustable cylinder, not set screw, with bullet tip interface through a dedicated slot in the hand guard that allows access
Small Frame receivers, not behemoths
Blended, low profile, lightweight MLOK hand guards
Nice 2-stage triggers

For the price, you will never be able to build a rifle like these. You can't get small frame receivers for starters, and the gas system they have is looking like it might be one of the ones to beat.

I'm trying to get one for review.

Any reviews yet? I have one on backorder just hoping they are as good as they look. Savage seems to always have great value buys and this will be my first AR10 style rifle. I don't want a dud which I doubt from Savage.