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Tikka Master Sporter help UPDATE!

jwSubMOA

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Howdy everyone! I purchased a Tikka Master Sporter from a Hide member a couple of weeks ago. I had an excellent transaction and the rifle is gorgeous. The rifle is in .308 and appeared nearly unfired. I took it to the range last week for the first time with a generic load I use in several other rifles,175gr M118 projectile over 42gr of TAC in Winchester cases with CCI Benchrest primers. I was shocked that I could get groups no better than 4-5 inches at 100 yards! I was shooting off the bipod on the bench so I thought this was the problem. I tried shooting off a bag on the bench,same result. The groups were totally random,never showing consistent vertical or horizontal stringing.

I should clarify for those that don't know,I lost my left arm above the elbow and my right leg above the knee in a motorcycle wreck a couple of years ago. I am unable to shoot from the prone so after trying different positions with no better results I decided I must be the problem. Several days later a friend and I shot it again along with his 20 inch 700 in .308. We used 4 different hand loads with different weight bullets and different powders along with several factory loads. The Tikka started with the same dismal groups with all loads,though showing improvement as round count increased.

After a quick cleaning groups shrank by half, generally with two rounds in the same hole and followed by rounds 3-5 randomly arrayed around them. Groups hovered around 1.5-2 inches through the day. To rule me out my buddy shot my rifle and I shot his, I'm not the problem. No matter what he did groups got no smaller.The rifle has a US Optics 20 MOA rail,low Burris Extreme Tactical rings and a brand new Super Sniper 20X. I disassembled the rifle and found nothing amiss.

Since then I've added an Atlas V8 and a Accushot monopod as I have trouble stabilizing the rear of the gun.Today I took it back out with several factory and hand loads. I loaded some 220gr SMKs to try but I loaded slightly too long and couldn't chamber them. The other loads used TAC under M118 175gr bullets,168gr SMKs and even 110gr 30 carbine bullets. The only factory load I had was PMC Bronze. After zeroing, I tried shooting for group. I had the same results of typically two in the same hole with random flyers. I was very stable with the bipod and monopod and also shot off a bag. Oddly the most consistent load was the 30 carbine bullets over 43gr of TAC which stayed around 1.25 inches.

I am planning on disassembling the rifle once more and inspecting again. I'm going to clean the barrel to bare metal and polish with Flitz and my bore guide. If I can't get decent groups after this I may try pillar bedding it. I'm on the waiting list for one of the KRG Whiskey 3 chassis to use with a T3 CTR so I'm not sure how far I want to go with this. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions? Thanks!

UPDATE 9-20: Bedded the rifle in Marinetex and went back out to test today.With my m118 projectile hand loads still had disappointing results. I had two boxes of FGMM to try,first 5 shot group was less than .5 inch! I'll try to post a picture but it averaged this for four 5 shot groups. Thanks for the responses!

 
Re: Tikka Master Sporter help

This will probably be of no help at all but my Tikka shoots 150gr bullets much better than 168gr or 180gr bullets. Also maybe check your bases and rings to make sure they're completely tight. I'm sure you've already done this but I just wanted to mention it. The reason I do is because I was chasing my tail with my Tikka for several weeks with similar results to yours. I changed several things at once so I can't really pin point the original problem but it has went away and I couldn't be more happy. I too had began to think I had forgotten how to shoot for a while!
 
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Checked everything,twice all good. Gonna bed it tomorrow. My next idea,just for shits and giggles is to make a mini chassis and mill the stock for it. It'd be a wood stocked TRG then.
 
Re: Tikka Master Sporter help

My master sporter shoots everything you can put in almost. If it is brand spanking new it might just need shooting. Mac Tilton is the master sporter guru of the world, at least the United States. Call him. www.mtguns.com
 
Re: Tikka Master Sporter help

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Papagallos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Questions: Did the original owner have the same experience with it? If so, maybe that's the reason he sold it? </div></div>

That's the odd part; I didn't have any of these problems the few times (I put 20 rounds through the gun) I shot the rifle. With FGMM 168gr, I was having no issues holding right around 5/8".

I hate to ask, but did you check the action screw torque?
 
Re: Tikka Master Sporter help

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WhiteDingo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Papagallos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Questions: Did the original owner have the same experience with it? If so, maybe that's the reason he sold it? </div></div>

That's the odd part; I didn't have any of these problems the few times (I put 20 rounds through the gun) I shot the rifle. With FGMM 168gr, I was having no issues holding right around 5/8".

I hate to ask, but did you check the action screw torque? </div></div>

The action screws would be a good place to look as well. I'm not sure how the Sporter is made inside the stock but if it's like the T3's make sure the recoil lug is properly aligned. I know it sounds silly but it can be misaligned pretty easily if you're not paying attention when you put the barrel/action back into the stock (don't ask how I know, lol). Also I never could find any definite answer about what the action is supposed to be torqued to so I settled on 43in/lbs. Hope you track you problem down soon.

Also, how often are you cleaning since it's relatively new? My barrel seems to want to copper four very easily with very few shots.
 
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I did check the action screws and they were GTG. Just so everyone knows I am not suggesting White Dingo was anything but straight up with me about the rifle. Ive got it curing right now from bedding. I glued the recoil lug in and bedded the action to it. There was a ton of room around the lug and rear tang so hopefully this fixes it. I'm sure I'll figure it out,just a bit frustrating. Thanks everyone for the help,and thanks White Dingo for taking such good care of the rifle!
 
Re: Tikka Master Sporter help

Greetings, I read your post and wanted to know if your Tikka is a 308 or 30-06. I just bought a 30-06 Tikka and was thinking of using Hornady's M1 garand 168 match A-Max. After reading your post maybe a 150 is better?