What would you all consider to be the top most inherently accurate 2000 yard calibers? I'm talking if the shooter is an expert marksman and an expert wind reader, what caliber is known for the best 2000 yard accuracy.
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I did not know that. I guess its good for dropping jeeps. HahaHi,
Well the BMG is not known for accuracy at 1000 yards, much less 2000 yards.
Just look at the average group size at 1000yd (Not the records) of the FCSA National Championships and compare those to the NBRSA average group size at 1000yd.
Sincerely,
Theis
Hi,
Well the BMG is not known for accuracy at 1000 yards, much less 2000 yards.
Just look at the average group size at 1000yd (Not the records) of the FCSA National Championships and compare those to the NBRSA average group size at 1000yd.
Sincerely,
Theis
What would you all consider to be the top most inherently accurate 2000 yard calibers? I'm talking if the shooter is an expert marksman and an expert wind reader, what caliber is known for the best 2000 yard accuracy.
no and no the 300 prc is the creedmore of 30 caliber worldCurious if 300PRC could fit into this category. Thoughts?
Yes it will.Curious if 300PRC could fit into this category. Thoughts?
What distance are these groups shot at?Theis
Can you show me a full line of sub 2 inch NBRSA groups?
The screenshot shows the groups at the 2017 Nationals.
I suspect you are looking at local club matches?
The URSA gongs are 37 inches round and if you get 4 out of 10 you advance in 500 yard increments.
You are cordially invited to any of our matches.
The picture is me shooting my 338 Lapua Ackley Improved across a 2000 yard canyon. It's hard to spot your misses in snow.
no and no the 300 prc is the creedmore of 30 caliber world
What distance are these groups shot at?
no and no
the 300 prc is no where close to the 300 nm in performance its close to the 300 wm not the normaWhat I've been reading, and playing with some ballistic data, it seems more that 300NM and just a hair shy of 338LM. I'm curious to see how this caliber evolves out to distances.
the 300 prc is no where close to the 300 nm in performance its close to the 300 wm not the norma
I'll add one thing for everyone to think about.
Do you consider the 300 WM a 2000 yd. round? If you were building a dedicated, purpose built ELR rifle I'll bet 75% of the people would say no.
YMMV
@Lynn Jr Apples to apples, same chamber pressures, appropriate powders being used, and same barrel length, the PRC edges the 300 Win Mag out by about 50-75fps on average, and the Norma is faster than the PRC by another 50-75fps.
What’s your specs on the 300 WSM?Dave
At our monthly 2000 yard matches we have a group that calls themselves the 30 Caliber Conspiracy and they shoot the 300 Win Mag with a 215 Berger at around 2945 FPS iirc.
In looking at the 300 Norma and 300 PRC they both look slower than the win mag if I am reading these posts correctly?
I shot my 1000 yard heavyguns in 300 WSM at 2000 yards with the187 BIB flatbase bullets and got 8/10 on a practice day.
The biggest hurdle we see at 2000 yards is not enough elevation and spotting misses when using the smaller rounds.
I'll add one thing for everyone to think about.
Do you consider the 300 WM a 2000 yd. round? If you were building a dedicated, purpose built ELR rifle I'll bet 75% of the people would say no.
YMMV
And I'm guessing the PRC with a Flatline will quite impressive too!300 Norma with 198 Flatlines's or a 338 Lapua Imp with 256 Flatlines is relay something to see.
yourAnd I'm guessing the PRC with a Flatline will quite impressive too!
your 256 will be great in the norma as wellAnd I'm guessing the PRC with a Flatline will quite impressive too!
the 300 prc is no where close to the 300 nm in performance its close to the 300 wm not the norma
And I'm guessing the PRC with a Flatline will quite impressive too!
Would you mind sharing the powder you used to get that velocity? I have seen 32" Lapua Ackleys that are 100fps slower than you with a 256 Flatline, and those were hot loads. I have no idea how you are getting that velocity out of a standard Lapua and an even heavier bullet.
correct we run . 250 fb on most of our 338 wildcatsThe freebore on a 338 Lapua or 338 Lapua Ackley Improved is crazy short.
The cartridge was developed before the 300 grain Sierra MatchKing was on the market so most reamers are 0.175-0.190 too short to start with.
I generally add 0.190 to all my 338 throats and the velocity with the 256 is quite good.
the flatlines have a short bearing surface and can be pushed faster then the 250 jacketed bulletsWould you mind sharing the powder you used to get that velocity? I have seen 32" Lapua Ackleys that are 100fps slower than you with a 256 Flatline, and those were hot loads. I have no idea how you are getting that velocity out of a standard Lapua and an even heavier bullet.
DanThat's too bad. The 300WM with a 180gr or 198gr Flatline is 2000 yards capable all day long.
None taken. Most folks don't realize the potential of a high BC solid in these type of conversations when they are accustomed the thought process of jacketed bullets.Dan
No disrespect intended. As I stated if starting with a clean slate and all the options available today I wonder where the 300 WM would be ranked in caliber selection.