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Movie Theater Total Recall (2012)

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    I have vague memories of the first with Arnold. But this one has Kate Beckinsale and Jessica Biel. Sure i'm a Colin Farrel fan too but i'll go see anything with those two women in an action film provided they have enough screen time
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    #2
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    I can't understand why they keep remaking excellent movies. Sure a lot of Arnolds movies were campy but still very watchable. No disrepect to the new group but the original is still a damn fine movie.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: srt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can't understand why they keep remaking excellent movies. Sure a lot of Arnolds movies were campy but still very watchable. No disrepect to the new group but the original is still a damn fine movie.
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    I generally agree but this one looks like it has a different plot so it's not a total ripoff.
     
    #9
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    I think it looks pretty good and I have no issue with it being rebooted with Colin especially when you look at the talent alongside him... Jessica Biel = Hot, Kate Beckingsale = Hot enough said, movie is a winner already
     
    #10
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: srt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can't understand why they keep remaking excellent movies. Sure a lot of Arnolds movies were campy but still very watchable. No disrepect to the new group but the original is still a damn fine movie.
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's not because Hollywood has lost its creativity - it's because the movie studios are more and more risk averse. For that reason they prefer to gamble their hundreds of millions of dollars on films that they feel already have an audience. And in most cases that means remakes and sequels. This is yet another example.
     
    #12
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    Biel and Beckinsale, they could be ready the phone book and i'd still be watching but this remake seems to be kicking some ass and has better special effect than the first one (of course it does)
     
    #13
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think it looks pretty good and I have no issue with it being rebooted with Colin especially when you look at the talent alongside him... Jessica Biel = Hot, Kate Beckingsale = Hot enough said, movie is a winner already </div></div>

    This ^

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: buffybuster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kate Beckinsale & Jessica Biel.... say no more. I'm in.....</div></div>

    This ^

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Decider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so which one has three titties, Kate Beckinsale or Jessica Biel?</div></div>

    And this
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    #14
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    I think some movies came out before their time, at least in the special effects department. Look at the new Star Trek. I didnt really like Colin Ferrel at first, but he has kind of grown into a half decent actor. I like the Fright Night remake too. Way hotter girls are in the newer movies anyway. Hollywood does get the eye candy done right.
     
    #15
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: srt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can't understand why they keep remaking excellent movies. Sure a lot of Arnolds movies were campy but still very watchable. No disrepect to the new group but the original is still a damn fine movie.
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    +1..Just easy money for Hollywood
     
    #18
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Maelek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">total lack of imagination on the liberal asswads in CA that run Hollywood.
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    You obviously didn't read what I wrote above. I know, your gut instinct is to think they're all smoking too much pot these days and doing rails off of strippers tits to think up cool, new films. This is another case of where perception and instinct are just way off. The reality is that big tentpole movie making has gotten out of control expensive and as a result the movie studios have gotten very risk averse. So they do whatever they can to hedge their bets and that means lots of sequels and remakes, which are a generally proven way to get people in theater seats. What sucks about that is the kind of movies that need to be remade are ones that were good stories, but poor execution - yet if it didn't do well at the box office they're not going near it a second time (for the most part).

    Where all of the imagination, risk taking and creativity seems to be these days is lower budget indie films and premium TV (HBO, Showtime, etc).
     
    #19
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dogtown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

    You obviously didn't read what I wrote above. I know, your gut instinct is to think they're all smoking too much pot these days and doing rails off of strippers tits to think up cool, new films. This is another case of where perception and instinct are just way off. The reality is that big tentpole movie making has gotten out of control expensive and as a result the movie studios have gotten very risk averse. So they do whatever they can to hedge their bets and that means lots of sequels and remakes, which are a generally proven way to get people in theater seats. What sucks about that is the kind of movies that need to be remade are ones that were good stories, but poor execution - yet if it didn't do well at the box office they're not going near it a second time (for the most part).

    Where all of the imagination, risk taking and creativity seems to be these days is lower budget indie films and premium TV (HBO, Showtime, etc).
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    Very true and well said i might add. There has been alot of great series on HBO and stars as of lately.
     
    #20
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    I've been working in the movie biz since my active Army days - so I know a thing or two about how it really works vs how we all think it works. As for Hollywood being risk averse, it's going to get worse now that "John Carter" tanked massively. That's a good example of a risky project to begin with, horribly mismanaged and once Disney realized they were headed for the iceberg, instead of changing course they went full steam ahead, throwing even more money at it in hopes of just crashing through. Those kinds of decisions are from bean counters and they sadly run the show at a lot of the larger studios. And what I've seen happen multiple times is that they will steer a production into the wrong lane several times because they rely on numbers and test screenings, focusing too much on little minutia and not big picture story telling. And went the result tanks at the box office, they blame the creatives.

    The only way this seems avoidable is making a film outside of the major studios OR being a top draw director who fight back. None of Jim Cameron's big films would have even been made were it not for his proven track record of proving the studios wrong.
     
    #21
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    holy mother of fuck!
    this looks great, they're taking a different angle on this film. its not even on mars. this isnt a remake, its a spin off of the idea of total recon while changing everything else
     
    #22
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    I have pretty much given up on Hollywood's view of what America is as they normally have taken the lowest common denominator of the American population and made it look common. I may see one film every two to three years. The only one that got me out this year was Act of Valor.

    Hollywood is on a downward spiral for making money and as Dogtown so eloquently indicated the risk aversion makes it even more difficult to generate new ideas so they continue along these path and chase fewer and fewer dollars. That is what is called a downward spiral.
     
    #23
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    Keep in mind, like any business, you go to your audience. It's a sad fact that "Alvin and the Chipmunks" sequels keep making insane return on investment. This is especially true of the "Paranormal Activity" films because they're shot so inexpensively and make crazy money at the box office. In fact, that was the genesis of the modern horror and action flicks in the early 80s - low cost production, high return on investment. And if that formula keeps packing theaters, they'll keep doing it. The result is a lot of crappy, lowest-common denominator films. It says as much about the American audience as it does about the industry.
     
    #24
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dogtown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The result is a lot of crappy, lowest-common denominator films. It says as much about the American audience as it does about the industry.</div></div>

    Agreed, and this is why I don't go to the movies anymore. My mind used to be entertained by movies, now it is bored.
     
    #26
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lessthanfour</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> its a spin off of the idea of total recon while changing everything else </div></div>

    Agree, looks fun! And it has "Storm Troopers", I'll watch it.
     
    #27
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    Guns? Check...
    Explosions? Check...
    'Bullet Time' effects? Check...
    Futuristic, Blade Runner-style cityscapes? Check...
    Hot chicks to make up for the lame, re-written script? Check...

    Way to go, Hollyweird.
     
    #31
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    I like Colin, I don't like remakes.

    The best thing to do is stop going to the theater to watch this crap (rent it later). Hollywood will eventually see that you have to do something to make money.

    I have to say, I went to see "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" when it came out. I actually thought that it would be the Factory after years of Charlie running it and that somehow the factory makes the owner a nut, not a remake. I should pay attention to the commercials more closely. When Total Recall came out with Arnold, I thought it was going to be a "total recall" of the arm forces for some war movie, I didn't have a lot of TV exposure back then.
     
    #33
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    my point is that there are tons of highly successful & popular novels out there with a ready made audience. That is a salesperson's wet dream.......guaranteed people going to see the movie

    Now all they have to do is make a good transition of the novel into the screenplay and have a competent director/producer/actors that have read the novel and actually enjoyed it. Couple that with allowing the author near the very top for helping to "trim the fat" of the novel to make it fit into a reasonable time frame for the movie. Don't be scared to break up really long books into 2 movies. Its cheaper to do that the create 2 totally separate movies.

    Oh...don't sink a ton of money in big named actors & actresses. Let the author look at the list of good actors/actresses that the director likes for the role so that they can pick out people that actually fit what they were going for in the book (look wise)
     
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    Sounds good on paper, but unfortunately it often doesn't work out that way. Often novels don't translate well to screenplays - "eh, the book was better" often has to do with their condensed nature. Mini-series are better adapted to expressing novels as there is a closer correlation with how the plot evolves and the characters develop. Movies are very expensive to make, even with cheap actors, because it requires lots of people and equipment employed for weeks and months on end - and that's just principal photography. Post production is increasingly expensive, especially now that so many mistakes can be fixed in post (for a price).

    Yes, it can be done on the cheap but good results are more the exception than the rule. Breaking a movie into 2 parts is a twice the gamble for the filmmakers - what if the first one tanks? There are no guarantees and for that reason they feel less inclined to take risks.

    And letting the original author have that much control over a film is a dangerous thing. Writing novels and making films is only related in the sense that it's storytelling - everything else is radically different. Directors will often collaborate with the author, but generally on the screenplay and how best to adapt the story to a film. Beyond that is a recipe for disaster.

    If it was really that simple, we'd be doing it that way, but unfortunately it's not.
     
    #35
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    ugggggg... hate hate hate when they do this shit.. i understand why they do it.. doesnt mean that i cant bitch about it.. lmao..

    but did anyone else catch harold in there..? wonder if kumar will have the three tits..??

    i will be waiting for the hodjie copy of this one.. lmao
     
    #36
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    I've listened to a number of authors of exceptional books gripe about Hollywood, but literature and film are completely different artistic media, where an author can take you inside a character's head and lay out thoughts but a filmmaker is limited to a visual conveyance. So what takes a page in a book can take ten or fifteen minutes of film, which is incredibly expensive and also risks dragging the film out to an unacceptable length. The major problem with giving authors creative authority is that they are always in love with their work and frequently don't appreciate the difference in media, so they fight tooth and nail on every point.

    As I understand it, Total Recall II is a much closer adaption of Phillip Dick's short story, "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale" than the original - which was, as they say, "loosely" based on it. This should be a completely different story having little in common but the title and names of characters. I'm looking forward to it, myself.
     
    #37
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    Oh, and on the remake issue, sometimes I like the remake much better. "The Getaway" comes to mind - as great as Steve McQueen was, and as great as Sam Peckinpah was, Ali McGraw sucked balls so bad in the original I can barely stand to watch it. The sequel, IMHO, was a pretty damned decent flick.
     
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