Traininer Stocks?

[TheBeard413]

My PRS rifle is in a Manners MCS-T2A. Should I purchase and have Manners build me an identical stock for my trainer? Other stocks I have looked at are the Boyd's Tacticool, MPA CZ Chassis System, and the McMillan M40A22.
My 1000+ yard range is an almost 2 hour drive one way (they also just received a cease & desist order). That's a totally different story. Mostly I am able to hit a 300 yard range on a family friend's Private Property. What would be the most beneficial for training purposes? I'm starting a new build as well for next year. I'm having a hard time making this choice. I'm not sure if I am going to build a chassis rifle or a stocked rifle yet.

 

[djdilliodon]

If you want it to mimick your centerfire you gotta go with the same stock! If you don't care pick whatever your heart desires .

 

[JBM_DC]

Like posted above, you would be best served with something similar to your primary setup if you are trying to mimic that.

 

[TheBeard413]

Well then.... I think I will be best served by ordering a 2nd Manners for training purposes. I want to be the best I can be! Currently I have been shooting my CZ 452 2E American chambered in .17hmr. I found Hornday XTP 20 grain shoots best for me. I can shoot 5 shot groups @ 100 yards right around 3/4moa. I'm unable to take part in local "rimfire events" with it. This is another reason I'm building my .22lr trainer. What fun is it if you can't be competitive.

 

[TheBeard413]

Thanks for you knowledge and insight.

 

[flatland1]

I've had both my CMP 40X & XB rifles converted to repeaters using RAVAGE88's 10rd mags, then re-barreled them with Benchmark & Lilja bbls, installed Jewell HVR triggers, PTG Stealth DBM, 20 MOA EGW scope rails w/Athlon 4.5-29x56 Cronus scopes - all in B&C #2015 stocks. Most of my CF comp rifles are set up in Manners T4A stocks, so aside from the lack of a butthook on the B&C stocks, I've got a couple of tack-driving 22RF repeaters that feel & weigh basically identical to the comp rifles. I love both of 'em!

 

[Zerodown]

I'm in a similar situation. I love my McMillan a5 on my long range rig, but can't find a comparable stock for my CZ 455. I like the vertical "pistol grip" on the McMillan, not thrilled about the single McMillan offering for the CZ (m40a22) There are new Chassis systems that have recently come out, and I have a McRee on a 260, but I guess I'm just waiting for another offering from McMillan.

 

[Rob01]

I'm in a similar situation. I love my McMillan a5 on my long range rig, but can't find a comparable stock for my CZ 455. I like the vertical "pistol grip" on the McMillan, not thrilled about the single McMillan offering for the CZ (m40a22) There are new Chassis systems that have recently come out, and I have a McRee on a 260, but I guess I'm just waiting for another offering from McMillan.

Have you looked at the Manners T4 .22 trainer stock? Similar to the A5.

 

[Zerodown]

Thanks for mentioning that one, Rob. I got to check one of those out recently, and the T4 is pretty similar to the a5. It seems like the most reasonable alternative. I was also able to check out a McMillan game hunter stock on a buddies hunting rifle. seemed like that would make a great trainer stock, not too big, but same grip. Its just not available in a .22 trainer!

 

[J!m]

I'm pretty sure McMillian can provide any stock without i letting, so it can be cut to fit your desired action.

 

[DangerDanJD]

I really like my CZ455 in Manners stock. It's a pretty good all around package. I also have a savage in a boyds stock that is fine. If money is tight, the Boyds is ok, but if you have the funds, definitely go with manners.

 

[Zebra]

Everyone is different but I see no reason why every stock should be the same. I can't speak for others but I am perfectly capable of learning to shoot well with a few different rifles and I can easily get used to more than one stock at a time.

There are other factors though. The Manners and the Boyd's are in two different price and quality categories. They might look supficially similar but they aren't. One is a mid to high end hand laid composite stock and the other is a cheap wood stock. If money was no object and you have time to wait, the Manners would win every time. In the real world though, most of us have to think about if the money is worth it for the rifle it's going on and the intended purpose.

The benefit of well made woven composite stocks like Manners and McMillan is in their stiffness and dimensional stability. You can replicate the shape with wood but not the stiffness or strength. There is a benefit for precision rifles when you invest in an extra stiff and stable stock but you know better than anybody if it's worth it for your specific rifle and what you use it for.

I find that if I buy one cheap set-up and another that I invest in, I only ever use the one I invested in. I have started selling off all my old entry level rifles that never get used any more for that reason. My plan in future, is never to buy any more rifles or accessories unless they are better than my existing ones.