trigger for Ruger

[Bluejazz]

I have an old Ruger 10/22 with a terrible trigger. Do they make an aftermarket trigger for these, and if so, who sells them.
Also, who sells good barrels for these.
Fixing this rifle might cost more than just buying a new Savage, but want to check into it, as it has some sentimental value for me.
Any leads appreciated.

 

[PLeighton]

Re: trigger for Ruger

Be carefull...
You are about to enter on to a slipery sloap of 10/22 addiction.

The trigger group for the 10/22 is notoriously bad in pull weight and creep.
There are numberous DIY fixes / improvements that can be found over at http://rimfirecentral.com

If you want to take the express lane and get the very best trigger for the money, check out the Kidd products.
http://www.coolguyguns.com/

Volquartsen also make a completely resigned trigger pack similar to Kidd, but for the money the Kidd is a no brainer.
The Kidd looks expensive up front, but once you get done spending money trying to do it on the cheap, you will ultimately exceed that price.
YMMV

I do not run an aftermarket trigger group becuase I like using a CST Bolt Stop Kit.
My trigger group has all new volquartsen guts and other mods to elliminate the creep though.
When all was said and done, this trigger group ended up costing about $350 in parts.
This was spent over a ten year period while I was trying to do it cheaper than buying a new drop in trigger group.

 

[kennyfisher4413]

Re: trigger for Ruger

Blue Jazz

If you are looking a lower cost solution to fix your trigger issues, Give this Jim and email he rebuilds your existing trigger group and everyone I have talked to is very happy with his work. He Takes it down to a 2.5lb trigger pull.

Kidd and VQ are very nice but high dollar. Another company to check out is Hornet custom triggers.

As for barrels that all depends on how much you are willing to spend also. You can go Kidd or VQ for $199+ Or you can go with Tactical solutions, Green mountain, Whistle pig, Butler creek all in between the $150-$200 Price range

This guy is also highly recomended in the rimfire community. He can rework your stock barrel to shoot just as good as almost any aftermarket barrel and also offers trigger and bolt work.
www.dearbornsguns.webs.com

I hope this helps

 

[Bluejazz]

Re: trigger for Ruger

thanks guys for the info. would like to keep it on the low cost side for now, until I start heading down that " slippery slope". I will start with the trigger work first, and then see if that helps accuracy. At that point, I will see if it warrants a new barrel.

 

[Aries64]

Re: trigger for Ruger

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bluejazz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thanks guys for the info. would like to keep it on the low cost side for now, until I start heading down that " slippery slope". I will start with the trigger work first, and then see if that helps accuracy. At that point, I will see if it warrants a new barrel. </div></div>
Not to split hairs, but there is a difference between modifications that allow the shooter to shoot more accurately more easily, and modifications that actually increase the accuracy of the firearm itself. A better trigger is the former, although excellent groups can be achived with a crappy trigger once the shooter becomes accustomed to the trigger in question (where the "break" is).

That said, there is the Kidd trigger, and then there are the also-rans. Getting the factory trigger "tuned" may or may not get you where you want to be, but theres' no harm in trying. After that, if you decide that you want a better trigger the Kidd is the best option - smooth, consistent pulls and reliable breaks everytime. The superior design and geometry of the Kidd also allows you to safely set a much lower pull weight than with any factory setup or derivitive thereof.

Keith

 

[sparks1]

Re: trigger for Ruger

Google Swampf0x Triggers give him a try. Swaps out your Trigger group for a rebuilt one pull wt is about 2.5 lbs with a RT trigger shoe.
I like mine...good enough for target work, safe for hunting.

Barrels>>>check vendors at Rimfire Central. I got a Green Mountain 16" SS fluted Bull for $119.00 Bentz chamber and shoots great. The Dearborn guns link will re chamber your existing barrel and you'll have a shooter with this too. AND it will be a sporter.

 

[tj223]

Re: trigger for Ruger

+1 on Kidd Trigger, 2 stages of shear smoothness. (Mine is set 8oz/8oz.)

+1 on Green Mountain bbl, Hard to beat for the money. I think I paid about $105 shipped, for my GM 18" SS bbl.

 

[sparks1]

Re: trigger for Ruger

Good buy on the GM...

The Kidd trigger is great, but too light for my tastes. Not a bench guy. But I understand they are fully adjustable in a certain range of weights.

 

[tj223]

Re: trigger for Ruger

Yeah the Kidd is adjustable from 3oz/6oz to 2.5lb/2.5lb and any combo in between.

So you could have a 2lb first stage for a steady pull and an 8oz second stage for a quick break.

I like the 8/8 myself, but yeah I am a bench guy.

But seriously Bluejazz, if your 10/22 is plain jane, all stock parts.... you are in for a long, expensive, yet very fun ride.

RFC has more information on a 10/22 than you could dream of. All of those guys are solid and will steer you in the right direction.

 

[Passport223]

Re: trigger for Ruger

There is a guy named SwampFOX on rimfirecentral.com that does a great job on 10/22 triggers for a god price. Bout 1/2 the price of a Kidd.

 

[DBohn]

Re: trigger for Ruger

+1 on the Kidd.

I have the 7/14 oz. setting. It's an unbelievable improvement over the factory 10/22 trigger. A little spendy but definitely worth the price. The extended magazine release is a nice addition also.

 

[ms6852]

Re: trigger for Ruger

Order this kit from Brownells, or if there is a Cabelas next to you go there they normally carry it.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=9864/Product/RUGER_reg__10_22_reg__HAMMER___SEAR_PACKAGE

But like everyone says, Kidd is the way to go.

 

[Aries64]

Re: trigger for Ruger

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOM T</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
...RFC has more information on a 10/22 than you could dream of.</div></div>
OK, first I want to make it clear that my quotes of <span style="font-style: italic">TOM T</span> are not meant as a "call out" - I am merely quoting a statement (and fact) that is often made. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now, I saw TOM T's post containing what I've quoted and paraphrased yesterday, and I wasn't going to say anything, but in the interest of the edification of anyone reading this post I feel it is my duty to set the record straight. Hence this post of mine that you are reading.

There is a lot of good info over at RFC, but there is also BS and mis-information, especially concerning 10/22s'. This is in large part due to paid advertisers - as the advertisers have a hand at the table and influence what is posted there, what stays posted, and what is removed when they don't like it. Many fanboys love to attack without intelligent - or other, discussion. This post is made in the hope that 10/22 neophytes don't fall under the influence of the minions or drink the Kool-Aide.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOM T</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..All of those guys are solid and will steer you in the right direction. </div></div>
Not <span style="font-style: italic">all</span>. As I stated there is a lot of good info over at RFC, but there there is also BS and mis-information. Say something that the paid advertisers don't like and you may find yourself attacked by fanboys, your posts deleted, and/or posts sanitized and verbal attacks on you deleted after the thread is locked. You may have a moderator take a cheap shot at you and then have the thread locked so that you cannot reply. All have happened to me and others at RFC.

Then you may be <span style="font-style: italic">"passively banned"</span>. The way a "passive ban" works is that the server assigns your <span style="font-weight: bold">User Name</span> the lowest possible request priority, which places you in an endless waiting que, freezing the page. You can sit there all day and night and the page never changes. You know that you have been passively banned if the web site and links work fine before you sign-in, but then you get timeout-outs and the site page freezes after sign-in. This ahs also happened to me and others at RFC.

I was verbally attacked by multiple posters who had no argument to what I wrote about <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">10/22 barrel droop</span></span> and the best methods of eliminating it while improving reliability and consistency of the 10/22. The attackers were not able to debate anything I said, so they just bashed me. Several posters actually thanked me for my "informative and thoughtful" posts at RFC, and some concurred with my posts, citing their own experiences.

Several threads that I had posted-in were locked and "doctored", removing my attackers insults and taunts to make it appear as if they hadn't done anything wrong, and I was passively banned. Nice.

If anyone takes the (considerable) time to actually read what I said they will see that I was outright calm in all my responses. Of course, the insults leveled at me are gone so my calm perseverence cannot be appreciated. One of the fanboys seems to have followed me over here, always trying to deflect what I've said and actually done without answering any questions asked directly of him/her.

I apologize for my digression, but as I said I feel it is my duty to set the record straight. I now return you to the topic of 10/22 triggers'...

Keith

 

[Solothurn]

Re: trigger for Ruger

I installed a Volquartson hammer and hammer spring in my 10/22. It brought the weight down to a hair under 2 lbs. with very little creep.

 

[tj223]

Re: trigger for Ruger

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aries64</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOM T</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
...RFC has more information on a 10/22 than you could dream of.</div></div>
OK, first I want to make it clear that my quotes of <span style="font-style: italic">TOM T</span> are not meant as a "call out" - I am merely quoting a statement (and fact) that is often made. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now, I saw TOM T's post containing what I've quoted and paraphrased yesterday, and I wasn't going to say anything, but in the interest of the edification of anyone reading this post I feel it is my duty to set the record straight. Hence this post of mine that you are reading.

There is a lot of good info over at RFC, but there is also BS and mis-information, especially concerning 10/22s'. This is in large part due to paid advertisers - as the advertisers have a hand at the table and influence what is posted there, what stays posted, and what is removed when they don't like it. Many fanboys love to attack without intelligent - or other, discussion. This post is made in the hope that 10/22 neophytes don't fall under the influence of the minions or drink the Kool-Aide.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOM T</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..All of those guys are solid and will steer you in the right direction. </div></div>
Not <span style="font-style: italic">all</span>. As I stated there is a lot of good info over at RFC, but there there is also BS and mis-information. Say something that the paid advertisers don't like and you may find yourself attacked by fanboys, your posts deleted, and/or posts sanitized and verbal attacks on you deleted after the thread is locked. You may have a moderator take a cheap shot at you and then have the thread locked so that you cannot reply. All have happened to me and others at RFC.

Then you may be <span style="font-style: italic">"passively banned"</span>. The way a "passive ban" works is that the server assigns your <span style="font-weight: bold">User Name</span> the lowest possible request priority, which places you in an endless waiting que, freezing the page. You can sit there all day and night and the page never changes. You know that you have been passively banned if the web site and links work fine before you sign-in, but then you get timeout-outs and the site page freezes after sign-in. This ahs also happened to me and others at RFC.

I was verbally attacked by multiple posters who had no argument to what I wrote about <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">10/22 barrel droop</span></span> and the best methods of eliminating it while improving reliability and consistency of the 10/22. The attackers were not able to debate anything I said, so they just bashed me. Several posters actually thanked me for my "informative and thoughtful" posts at RFC, and some concurred with my posts, citing their own experiences.

Several threads that I had posted-in were locked and "doctored", removing my attackers insults and taunts to make it appear as if they hadn't done anything wrong, and I was passively banned. Nice.

If anyone takes the (considerable) time to actually read what I said they will see that I was outright calm in all my responses. Of course, the insults leveled at me are gone so my calm perseverence cannot be appreciated. One of the fanboys seems to have followed me over here, always trying to deflect what I've said and actually done without answering any questions asked directly of him/her.

I apologize for my digression, but as I said I feel it is my duty to set the record straight. I now return you to the topic of 10/22 triggers'...

Keith </div></div>

Keith, first off I want to say that I don't feel "called out" and don't have any hard feelings.

I think your post was informative about RFC. But I personally have had a great experience with RFC and I want to put in my 2 cents and back up what I said.




My statement : "RFC has more information on a 10/22 than you could dream of."

This is certainly true imo. There are pages and pages of posts on almost anything and everything you could possibly mod on a 10/22. And most is spot on.


My statement : "All of those guys are solid and will steer you in the right direction."

I understand I wrote the word "All" and that is usually a bad idea. I should have said "most" or "almost all."




Obviously you have had a bad experience with RFC. And I am sorry for that. I respect what you said because that is your opinion. I, on the other hand, have had no problems whatsoever with them.

My time on RFC was great and I got a great deal of info, and still highly recommend RFC to anyone wanting info on a 10/22. And this is based solely on my personal experience.




I think we had two very different experiences and I just wanted to let Bluejazz and anyone else know my side.

I value your opinion and hope I came across in the same manner as you did to me.

~ TOM


P.S. I agree there are fanboys on the site, but there are fanboys almost everywhere.

 

[Aries64]

Re: trigger for Ruger

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOM T</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aries64</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOM T</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
...RFC has more information on a 10/22 than you could dream of.</div></div>
OK, first I want to make it clear that my quotes of <span style="font-style: italic">TOM T</span> are not meant as a "call out" - I am merely quoting a statement (and fact) that is often made. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now, I saw TOM T's post containing what I've quoted and paraphrased yesterday, and I wasn't going to say anything, but in the interest of the edification of anyone reading this post I feel it is my duty to set the record straight. Hence this post of mine that you are reading.

There is a lot of good info over at RFC, but there is also BS and mis-information, especially concerning 10/22s'. This is in large part due to paid advertisers - as the advertisers have a hand at the table and influence what is posted there, what stays posted, and what is removed when they don't like it. Many fanboys love to attack without intelligent - or other, discussion. This post is made in the hope that 10/22 neophytes don't fall under the influence of the minions or drink the Kool-Aide.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOM T</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..All of those guys are solid and will steer you in the right direction. </div></div>
Not <span style="font-style: italic">all</span>. As I stated there is a lot of good info over at RFC, but there there is also BS and mis-information. Say something that the paid advertisers don't like and you may find yourself attacked by fanboys, your posts deleted, and/or posts sanitized and verbal attacks on you deleted after the thread is locked. You may have a moderator take a cheap shot at you and then have the thread locked so that you cannot reply. All have happened to me and others at RFC.

Then you may be <span style="font-style: italic">"passively banned"</span>. The way a "passive ban" works is that the server assigns your <span style="font-weight: bold">User Name</span> the lowest possible request priority, which places you in an endless waiting que, freezing the page. You can sit there all day and night and the page never changes. You know that you have been passively banned if the web site and links work fine before you sign-in, but then you get timeout-outs and the site page freezes after sign-in. This ahs also happened to me and others at RFC.

I was verbally attacked by multiple posters who had no argument to what I wrote about <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">10/22 barrel droop</span></span> and the best methods of eliminating it while improving reliability and consistency of the 10/22. The attackers were not able to debate anything I said, so they just bashed me. Several posters actually thanked me for my "informative and thoughtful" posts at RFC, and some concurred with my posts, citing their own experiences.

Several threads that I had posted-in were locked and "doctored", removing my attackers insults and taunts to make it appear as if they hadn't done anything wrong, and I was passively banned. Nice.

If anyone takes the (considerable) time to actually read what I said they will see that I was outright calm in all my responses. Of course, the insults leveled at me are gone so my calm perseverence cannot be appreciated. One of the fanboys seems to have followed me over here, always trying to deflect what I've said and actually done without answering any questions asked directly of him/her.

I apologize for my digression, but as I said I feel it is my duty to set the record straight. I now return you to the topic of 10/22 triggers'...

Keith </div></div>

Keith, first off I want to say that I don't feel "called out" and don't have any hard feelings.

I think your post was informative about RFC. But I personally have had a great experience with RFC and I want to put in my 2 cents and back up what I said.




My statement : "RFC has more information on a 10/22 than you could dream of."

This is certainly true imo. There are pages and pages of posts on almost anything and everything you could possibly mod on a 10/22. And most is spot on.


My statement : "All of those guys are solid and will steer you in the right direction."

I understand I wrote the word "All" and that is usually a bad idea. I should have said "most" or "almost all."




Obviously you have had a bad experience with RFC. And I am sorry for that. I respect what you said because that is your opinion. I, on the other hand, have had no problems whatsoever with them.

My time on RFC was great and I got a great deal of info, and still highly recommend RFC to anyone wanting info on a 10/22. And this is based solely on my personal experience.




I think we had two very different experiences and I just wanted to let Bluejazz and anyone else know my side.

I value your opinion and hope I came across in the same manner as you did to me.

~ TOM


P.S. I agree there are fanboys on the site, but there are fanboys almost everywhere. </div></div>
Tom, all points well taken. I appreciate your comment about my opinion and yes you have come across the same way. Respectfully so. Good times!

Keith