hey guys what are your thoughts on how to get about making one of these suits for a tropical/equatorial rainforest environment? I don't think it would be possible to use one of these traditional suits in the environment where I live. Climate is extremely humid temperatures year round 29-33C, rainfall from between 2500-4000+mm a year. Jungle so think almost impossible to walk through without cutters in most places. My main concern is the heat that would be trapped I'm sure you would near sweat to death in a traditional suit. We near sweat to death here just in a pair of shorts during the wet season. Looking to make something for hunting applications but got me curious as to what actual snipers are using if operating in an equatorial rainforest climate anyone know?
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Fieldcraft tropical ghillie suit
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Jungle is the terrain I have the least life and/or combat experience in. However, real quick from your post a few things jumped out at me:
- During sniper school I remember what an instructor said and it stuck with me; a person with decent knowledge of the terrain can always get within 600m of a target by simply using nothing other than the terrain. In a jungle, I'm going to say that distance is MUCH closer. You don't need a ghille for it. I'd be more worried about leaving a metric ton of sign for pursuers/random patrols to find in that environment.
- Between the precipitation and heat, the suit will weight a ton and it will smolder you with heat and humidity of 1000000%. You'd be more than likely to die of dehydration or heat stroke from the suit before anything else.
- Best suit in a jungle setting (other than no suit at all!) would by far be natural vegetation because it will be everywhere and ever changing. A suit may pigeon hole you or actually make you stick out; if I did a suit in the jungle it would be at most 20% material and 80% available space for natural veg. You'd be much better served using something like a just 'hood' or lightweight blind like an umbrella with veg on it at your FFP than a suit.
- Ghille suits are rarely used. With the proliferation of better calibers/bullets that deliver higher energy on target with better ballistics, having to sneak your way into a 'closer' engagement range will only make them something you once read about in a book. I thought I was going to need it at some point and dragged the thing around with me for a few weeks until I realized that I will never use it. I instantly weighed less, didn't stink everywhere I went and also wasn't carrying a fucking ghille in a mesh bag on the bottom of my ruck around everywhere with me.
- They also like to catch on fire. And your wife won't let you, or the suit in the house.
- During sniper school I remember what an instructor said and it stuck with me; a person with decent knowledge of the terrain can always get within 600m of a target by simply using nothing other than the terrain. In a jungle, I'm going to say that distance is MUCH closer. You don't need a ghille for it. I'd be more worried about leaving a metric ton of sign for pursuers/random patrols to find in that environment.
- Between the precipitation and heat, the suit will weight a ton and it will smolder you with heat and humidity of 1000000%. You'd be more than likely to die of dehydration or heat stroke from the suit before anything else.
- Best suit in a jungle setting (other than no suit at all!) would by far be natural vegetation because it will be everywhere and ever changing. A suit may pigeon hole you or actually make you stick out; if I did a suit in the jungle it would be at most 20% material and 80% available space for natural veg. You'd be much better served using something like a just 'hood' or lightweight blind like an umbrella with veg on it at your FFP than a suit.
- Ghille suits are rarely used. With the proliferation of better calibers/bullets that deliver higher energy on target with better ballistics, having to sneak your way into a 'closer' engagement range will only make them something you once read about in a book. I thought I was going to need it at some point and dragged the thing around with me for a few weeks until I realized that I will never use it. I instantly weighed less, didn't stink everywhere I went and also wasn't carrying a fucking ghille in a mesh bag on the bottom of my ruck around everywhere with me.
- They also like to catch on fire. And your wife won't let you, or the suit in the house.
hi mate thanks for the reply, I kinda expected the response to be something along these lines as I just couldn't see how a traditional ghillie would be possible in this environment and heat and humidity/rainfall and you have confirmed this. At the moment we hunt just in thin lyrca type material mainly to cover for mosquitos but even this material is too hot. The best camo would be to be black skinned like the natives then you could just hunt with shorts except then you still run into heavy mosquito issues which can drive you insane in the jungle here.
jungle ghillie?
honestly, in that environment, you are going to have A LOT of vegetation to aid in concealment....i really think a good camo and maybe something like a viper hood from tactical concealment will be all that youd need ( or honestly want to wear)
honestly, in that environment, you are going to have A LOT of vegetation to aid in concealment....i really think a good camo and maybe something like a viper hood from tactical concealment will be all that youd need ( or honestly want to wear)
I'm from the hot humid rainy southern US, so I can sympathize with your problems. The most concerned with camo I ever had to be was hunting wild turkeys in the Spring. Our solution was camo-patterned mosquito netting. It weighed almost nothing and could either be staked up around us like a fence or draped over us depending on how bad the bugs were. Basic mil camo netting also works, but it's heavier and doesn't offer mozzie protection
A netting to tie some veg...hell a boonie/vail with a tail and netting for veg should do good....always remember...dont veg up in an area and try to blend in another with different veg. Been there, lesson learned.
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