UPS Employee Pleads to Stealing Firearms

[Grand]

Local Bakersfield man employed with UPS distribution facility plead not contest to stealing 11 firearms. Apparently he removed firearm from container, resealed and shipped container empty to destination. Probably stole alot more.

Glad they caught the bastard, but I find it hard to believe he was acting alone.

 

[JSTARSZ]

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I always cringe when I have to send my rifles somewhere via UPS or FEDEX.

 

[Graham]

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Do you know whether they recovered any of the rifles?

 

[redirt78]

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Always hate to read these kind of reports. Glad they caught him though.

 

[fw707]

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I Googled "ups gun thefts" looking for a news story on the Bakersfield thefts.
It's not an isolated incident, it's a frigging epidemic!

 

[Grand]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you know whether they recovered any of the rifles? </div></div>

I think some were recovered.

As an aside, I sold a Benelli M1 Super 90 to Tactical Mike last year. Gun was stolen by someone at local UPS. Reported to local PD and desk jockey told me that it was an insurance issue with UPS. After I put my fire out, I called the police chief and got things squared away. Insurance issue my ass!

 

[KillShot]

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They should give him the electric chair! Thieving bastard!

 

[km71107]

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Just give him to the owners of the guns and tell 'em to use their imagination.

 

[GardDog]

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When I was contacted to have my 1911 shipped back from the finisher, he told me that the reason you have to overnight pistols via UPS or FedEx was due to the high amount of guns being stolen by employees. What a shame.

 

[CavRed3]

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thats why i never ship guns i have had them ship to me from euro optics if they dont show up let them take care of it but there is no way i will ship i would rather drive 6 hours but driving is bad for me gets me out of the house. what a shame

 

[smutly]

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I worked for UPS while in college in early 70's at large hub in mid Michigan. Hundred plus part time employees tons of stuff coming in everyday and every month somebody gone due to theft. Worked part and full time later in mid 70,s in Detroit and again theft was very common, loaders, sorters, drivers etc. Some of the stuff stolen was strange, hair gels, empty pill casings,electronics,magazines, and of course guns..
You don't see much about even out and out truck robberies in the papers as UPS and FEDEX don't want us knowing that your parcel could be stolen or not making it to destination.

 

[The Mechanic]

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Any time I ship anything I put a buttload of insurance on it. If they ask tell them it was a 2 carat diamond and I want my money!

 

[shibby575]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any time I ship anything I put a buttload of insurance on it. If they ask tell them it was a 2 carat diamond and I want my money! </div></div>

Same here.. I insure for the most expensive I can find said item. I generally have around 1/2 into it.

 

[SDWhirlwind]

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They charge as much to ship as they can get, but if you want to take the chance OUR employees won't steal it then please allow us to give it to you up the ass again for 'insurance'. Then if we lose it you will need to show proof that what you shipped is actually worth what we Deliveranced you for on insurance. Oh, and don't get in a F**kin hurry about us paying you either, that is because we need to decide if you packaged it properly and what you say was in the package actually was and value you insured it for wasn't because you were hoping we'd lose it!!!!!

Thank You for shipping UPS, FedEx or the Civil Servant minded USPS. Where you're getting screwed eventually is our foremost goal!!

 

[skinney_7]

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sure glad my man in brown treats me well when he's droppin of cans!!!

 

[areaone]

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What disgusts me about the insurance is that I am paying them to replace my item if THEIR employee steals it. The rate is about 1.25 pre 100.00 of value, if that is the case their loss or theft rate must be about 1%. With what they charge, they ought to have video and their own securuty policing this, why do I have to pay extra(insurance)to expect that they will deliver as described without one of their employees stealing it. I am including UPS USPS and Fed EX. I am sure filing and collecting is not as easy as you would think-they are not always going to buy the "2 carat diamond" story. They will want proof of contents and proof of value etc....

 

[Guest]

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http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/news/local...-137065168.html

He shoulda stuck with landscaping.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FRESNO, Calif. (KBAK/KBFX) - A 22-year-old former UPS employee pleaded guilty to stealing guns from the delivery company's customers.

Gabriel Gonzalez, of Bakersfield, admitted to stealing nine guns from interstate shipments that went through Bakersfield, federal prosecutors said Tuesday.

Gonzalez would reseal the boxes to cover his tracks. All of the thefts were reported by the people who were supposed to receive the guns in the mail.

Stolen guns recovered from Gonzalez's home were:

- Sig Sauer .40-caliber semi-automatic pistol,
- Kimber Eclipse Pro II .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol,
- Smith & Wesson .40-caliber semi-automatic pistol, model SW40VE,
- Smith & Wesson .40-caliber semi-automatic pistol, model SW40VE, and
- Smith & Wesson .380-caliber semi-automatic pistol, model bodyguard.

Gonzalez gave the following stolen guns to his friends:

- Glock .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol, model G30,
- Smith & Wesson .40-caliber semi-automatic pistol,
- Kahr 9 mm semi-automatic pistol, and
- Kimber .40-caliber semi-automatic pistol, model Ultra Carry II.

Gonzalez's sentencing is set for May 7. He faces a maximum statutory penalty for each charge of 10 years in prison.</div></div>

 

[areaone]

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Sorry----- SD WHIRLWIND posted while I was typing, He sums it up better than I could. (great minds think the same)

 

[EddieNFL]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skinney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sure glad my man in brown treats me well when he's droppin of cans!!! </div></div>

...and hopefully all the other hands that touch it are as honest.

 

[SDWhirlwind]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skinney</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sure glad my man in brown treats me well when he's droppin of cans!!! </div></div>

skinney...That's cause your "man in brown" has seen them flippin popeye arms of yours and like me is scared you're gonna kick his ass everytime you see him. An ass kickin is usually a good deterent against bad behavior!!!

Oh, and if you can't whoop his ass he has pictures of Quigley in his mind and your lifting his ass out of the seat of 'the brown truck' when he is a half mile down the driveway.

 

[kineticmedic]

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Luckily my problem has been them throwing my packages at my front door from 10 feet away, not theft.

 

[Grand]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shibby</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any time I ship anything I put a buttload of insurance on it. If they ask tell them it was a 2 carat diamond and I want my money! </div></div>

Same here.. I insure for the most expensive I can find said item. I generally have around 1/2 into it. </div></div>

Your may be thowing your money away. If your selling an item, UPS insurance is only going to cover the actual sales price absent special circumstances. When I sold Tactical Mike my Benelli, I threw in a couple of extra chokes to be a nice guy. Well, UPS did not want to pay me for being a nice guy, only the sales price.

 

[300WSM]

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dirt bag!

 

[LARMIKE]

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I bought an M40 rifle from DD Ross several years ago and he tracked it to the UPS hub in KY. It stayed there for 2 days, Then Dan called a friend that works for UPS, Long story short it was found in the back of a workers truck... He was arrested and my rifle arrived the next day. I always take a picture with the time and date showing so if it comes up missing I have some proof.
I filed a claim with UPS on an item that was stolen then ending up at the store empty, Well that Bitch from UPS accused me of sending an empty box then trying to collect the ins. money !!! I got my $ but it took awhile.

 

[GHatfield]

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Anyone caught stealing guns should get their barrel sawed off!

 

[shibby575]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Grand</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shibby</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any time I ship anything I put a buttload of insurance on it. If they ask tell them it was a 2 carat diamond and I want my money! </div></div>

Same here.. I insure for the most expensive I can find said item. I generally have around 1/2 into it. </div></div>

Your may be thowing your money away. If your selling an item, UPS insurance is only going to cover the actual sales price absent special circumstances. When I sold Tactical Mike my Benelli, I threw in a couple of extra chokes to be a nice guy. Well, UPS did not want to pay me for being a nice guy, only the sales price. </div></div>

They have to pay to replace it. Up to the insured value. You have to prove the value of the item. That being said, does not mean they won't try to low-ball you, as it's in their financial best interest, if you don't dispute it. Just show them the price of replacement, which is usually a web page shot away, then begins the waiting game and a few calls to/from their account specialists. 30-60 days later you get your money. It's not fast. I've had to make 2 claims, and this is how it has worked for me. They don't know how much you've sold it for, nor is it their business. Their business is to replace what you've insured to you. your business is to make it right by the buyer.