Using our Power.

[Maggot]

We've speculated as to why these people snap and go on killing sprees, generally writing it off to 'mental illness', but that doesnt really answer any questions as to 'why' or how to deal with it.

When I was 50 years younger I was a very angry, violent, dangerous, young man and came within a hair of 'going postal'. Fortunately, or unfortunately according to your view of me, a true miracle occurred and Maggot is still with us.

I wont go into my own personal struggles but rather what I learned in unraveling them . I believe I might shed some light on why these things happen.


Im not speaking of times when two idiots collide, like the two in Texax (Chad and Kyle?) fighting over visiting rights. Thats just a couple of morons intersecting

The reason people do these things, and I believe the same energy causes all this transexual and other sickness we're facing, 95% of the time boils down to one thing. Poor self esteem, AKA, self hate. Somebody, somewhere, somehow, or a confluence of events, caused this person to see themselves as bad, perhaps evil, undeserving of value. and respect Doesnt matter if it was Mommy emotionally abusing, or Daddy being a violent asshole, or uncle Joe doing a bit of diddling with the children, ar a bright kid being abused by stupid thugs. they feel dirty, worthless, frightened and dreading the future. I finally realized Its like a blackness on your soul, and there's no just pulling yourself up by your boot straps. Try to imagine the horror hating yourself enough to even hate your own gender. Have you ever done something that you were ashamed of or really embarrassed by? Remember how awful and dark your soul felt? Imagine that multiplied by 100 and no relenting, no rest. That being is truly and deeply damaged and in a lot of pain. At some point all that pain just explodes. Sometimes people just destroy themselves in suicide or sometimes they turn the blame out and take it out on others.

When it reaches that level I'm not sure that any traditional type therapies can deal with this sort of stuff. I've come to think that when some are so deeply wounded in the soul, other non physical entities are able to attach themselves and feed on that pain and suffering, even stirring it up to cause more to feed on. Remember the story of the boy that Jesus healed who kept throwing himself into the fire? In the past they were at times called demons. Doesnt matter what you call them, but It takes power to deal with those entities and reason alone generally doesnt get you there, it takes a higher power. It is available. When our hearts are clear we can access it, but only if you know you can. For those who love and follow Christ it is our heritage. Prayer is a beginning. Then putting on the whole armor as mentioned in: Set us pray for, and fight spiritually, the forces fighting to destroy our country and liberty. We have a powerful group here and already have on prayer thread, but I'd like this one to take a narrow focus. I'll bump this everytime one of theses things happens and feel free to bring it up. It take a focus of power. DC is full of this demonic poison and a good place to focus.

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Ephesians 6:10-18​

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The Armor of God​

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.​

18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.​

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With this thread, and in conjunction with 'The Prayer Request Thread' I speak power to the break of the demonic force that is fighting to take control of our country and government. I know there are many churches doing this, but brothers, Ive seen power in this place, lets use it. Everytime one of these events occurs Im going to bring this thread up, and anyone who joins me is free to bring it up at any time.​

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I reckon if Frank of the Mod's feel this in appropriate they can remove it, but its the only answer I've found to whats going on.​

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If you dont share our belief, please at least be respectful​

Maggot

 

[Skeptic1]

I agree

 

[Baron23]

Self-esteem arises from doing esteem-able things.

 

[Devildog]

There has always been evil on this earth. And there always will be until the end of days. These shootings are the same as the terrorist mantra it only takes one at a time of their choosing to cause carnage. How do you stop it? I don’t think you can. Are society at this point is to far gone.
We have entered a time in history like no other, hold on tight it’s going to get much worse!

 

[mvphilly]

We've speculated as to why these people snap and go on killing sprees, generally writing it off to 'mental illness', but that doesnt really answer any questions as to 'why' or how to deal with it.

When I was 50 years younger I was a very angry, violent, dangerous, young man and came within a hair of 'going postal'. Fortunately, or unfortunately according to your view of me, a true miracle occurred and Maggot is still with us.

I wont go into my own personal struggles but rather what I learned in unraveling them . I believe I might shed some light on why these things happen.


Im not speaking of times when two idiots collide, like the two in Texax (Chad and Kyle?) fighting over visiting rights. Thats just a couple of morons intersecting

The reason people do these things, and I believe the same energy causes all this transexual and other sickness we're facing, 95% of the time boils down to one thing. Poor self esteem, AKA, self hate. Somebody, somewhere, somehow, or a confluence of events, caused this person to see themselves as bad, perhaps evil, undeserving of value. and respect Doesnt matter if it was Mommy emotionally abusing, or Daddy being a violent asshole, or uncle Joe doing a bit of diddling with the children, ar a bright kid being abused by stupid thugs. they feel dirty, worthless, frightened and dreading the future. I finally realized Its like a blackness on your soul, and there's no just pulling yourself up by your boot straps. Try to imagine the horror hating yourself enough to even hate your own gender. Have you ever done something that you were ashamed of or really embarrassed by? Remember how awful and dark your soul felt? Imagine that multiplied by 100 and no relenting, no rest. That being is truly and deeply damaged and in a lot of pain. At some point all that pain just explodes. Sometimes people just destroy themselves in suicide or sometimes they turn the blame out and take it out on others.

When it reaches that level I'm not sure that any traditional type therapies can deal with this sort of stuff. I've come to think that when some are so deeply wounded in the soul, other non physical entities are able to attach themselves and feed on that pain and suffering, even stirring it up to cause more to feed on. Remember the story of the boy that Jesus healed who kept throwing himself into the fire? In the past they were at times called demons. Doesnt matter what you call them, but It takes power to deal with those entities and reason alone generally doesnt get you there, it takes a higher power. It is available. When our hearts are clear we can access it, but only if you know you can. For those who love and follow Christ it is our heritage. Prayer is a beginning. Then putting on the whole armor as mentioned in: Set us pray for, and fight spiritually, the forces fighting to destroy our country and liberty. We have a powerful group here and already have on prayer thread, but I'd like this one to take a narrow focus. I'll bump this everytime one of theses things happens and feel free to bring it up. It take a focus of power. DC is full of this demonic poison and a good place to focus.

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Ephesians 6:10-18​

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==================================================================================​

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New International Version​

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​

​

The Armor of God​

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.​

18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.​

​

With this thread, and in conjunction with 'The Prayer Request Thread' I speak power to the break of the demonic force that is fighting to take control of our country and government. I know there are many churches doing this, but brothers, Ive seen power in this place, lets use it. Everytime one of these events occurs Im going to bring this thread up, and anyone who joins me is free to bring it up at any time.​

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I reckon if Frank of the Mod's feel this in appropriate they can remove it, but its the only answer I've found to whats going on.​

​

If you dont share our belief, please at least be respectful​

Maggot

That is so true of Gen Z or whatever alphabet soup they name themselves. I mean what civilized person would use the barbarism of abortion for a form of birth control?These folks have no soul.

 

[10ring'r]

For what it's worth. What you wrote has a good deal of substance in/to it. Makes one sit back and do a little more deep-diving into one's self. I think, we all have had some personal experience that was not good in our lives. I know I have. Like you, I was a stubborn, pissy, and sometimes mean, young man. Luckily, I DID have an Ol' man that would not put up with my ways and he had to carry a big stick. That's what has been lost in our society today. Parents have forgotten the purpose of "parenting". Too busy. Too self-indulged. We are suffering now because of it.
When someone needs professional help from a qualified doctor, the first thing that's shoved down the throats of these kids, is medications. I think the whole world has turned to one of the Seven Sins....Greed. I don't know if it's too late now but, we all need to regain our fate in the man upstairs. With one caveat... We cannot use God as a crutch. When and if we get confronted by these twisted people(?), we need to get right back into their faces. It's the only way.
We have a very small minority destroying this country, the country a lot of us have put blood and sweat into. God has allowed us to use our Critical Thinking gene(school of Hard Knocks), gave us the might, we just need to apply it. Mac

 

[vh20]

It was a wall of text, so I skimmed. My impression of your conclusions is that in the 90s the Clintons brought us something called Outcome-Based Education, the premise of which is that it’s not important what the student learns, but rather how they feel about themselves (high self-esteem). Since then it has only gotten worse. Now we have outcome EQUALITY being enforced. These kids were taught nothing but high self-esteem, yet here we are. Why? Well no one with a brain is surprised that it turns out the only way to gain self-esteem is to earn it through self-accomplishment. When you’re taught your whole life how great you are for no reason (no effort required), then the real world tells you the truth, you just might not be mentally prepared to handle the realization.

As far as the evil forces at play, and prayer for overcoming it, I agree completely.

 

[Supersubes]

It was a wall of text, so I skimmed. My impression of your conclusions is that in the 90s the Clintons brought us something called Outcome-Based Education, the premise of which is that it’s not important what the student learns, but rather how they feel about themselves (high self-esteem). Since then it has only gotten worse. Now we have outcome EQUALITY being enforced. These kids were taught nothing but high self-esteem, yet here we are. Why? Well no one with a brain is surprised that it turns out the only way to gain self-esteem is to earn it through self-accomplishment. When you’re taught your whole life how great you are for no reason (no effort required), then the real world tells you the truth, you just might not be mentally prepared to handle the realization.

As far as the evil forces at play, and prayer for overcoming it, I agree completely.

Add in a little “words equal actual violence” that the left keeps pushing them, and you have a nice little evil soup. I dont think they're self hating at all. They hate the folks that dont agree with them, and feel completely justified killing innocent people.

 

[Ronws]

Amen. Cain killed Abel. No one banned fully semi-automatic rocks. Instead, we have struggled, as we always will, with the evil of low self-esteem.

Cain felt that God loved him less and honored less his sacrifices to God. So, the first murder was rooted in low self-esteem. That being said, the only to protect ourselves from others on murderous rampages is to arm ourselves. It is not our job to save anyone's soul. To think that we can is arrogance and pride to the extreme. The best we can do is show the way to redemption.

And in a current culture where there is no belief in God and the right thing, it is no wonder we have more mass killings. When you tell God to go away, He can oblige. And then you find Hell.

 

[Maggot]

Self-esteem arises from doing esteem-able things.

Exactly.

I think we all start with a neutral self esteem, or Tabla Rosa. It gets colored, bolstered or destroyed, by our environment. Thats what happened to mine, it got destroyed. One day it hit me like an epiphany, "If you dont like who you see in the mirror, change him to someone you can like, and If you dont like whats coming in, change what your putting out." Action and reaction, reaping and sowing.

 

[Namekagon]

Demons for the win.

I believe the reason so much of the crap in our world (wokeness, socialism, destruction of freedom, mass shootings etc) seems coordinated against us is because it IS. By Satan, not the .gov, or WEF, or the UN, or the climate socialists or any other communist leader. They are just his tools, I don't think they are actually organized enough to pull the strings everyone thinks they do. Shit falls into their evil laps because they've chosen the side of evil. I.E. the devil is the one whispering into the ears of these mass shooters right a the best times to help the communists.

Christians need to buckle up and do some serious spiritual warfare. I myself am only beginning to learn more about this.

That doesn't mean I won't buy more ammo too. God has at various times in history had need of a sharp stick to manifest His will.

 

[SanPatHogger]

While reading the first 3 lines I thought it was going to turn into something like the Flip story. But the rest was pretty good.

 

[n2ishun]

It was a wall of text

Yup.
TL;DR

 

[Mudburner]

Well, ya FINALLY came around to my point of view. I told you this last year, Maggot. Good on ya! Put your foot down. Draw yer line in the sand. You are beginning to understand that as a Christian believer, as a born-again child of God, as a blood-bought servant of the Lord Jesus, we DO have power & authority. Not over people, but over demonic entities & malevolent spirits who oppose God, His people & attempt to hinder & destroy His plans.

My favorite picture of Jesus is found in Joshua 5:13-15. It describes Joshua doing a leader's recon before assaulting the city of Jerico. He encounters a man standing there WITH A DRAWN SWORD in his hand. He calls himself the Commander-in-Chief of the Lord's army & allows Joshua to worship him, so this is no mere angel. It is, in my opinion, the Lord Jesus himself.

Joshua's reply is classic gospel: "What are your commands?" And Joshua immediately obeys whatever he was told. This should be our response as servants of Jesus as well. Filter out & disregard any other voice. John 10:3-5 Jesus tells us that it is totally normal for Christians to hear His voice. John 14:15 if you love me, obey me...

Looks to me like you are indeed receiving input from the Spirit of God, & taking action.

 

[mikeshaw2]

There has always been evil on this earth. And there always will be until the end of days. These shootings are the same as the terrorist mantra it only takes one at a time of their choosing to cause carnage. How do you stop it? I don’t think you can. Are society at this point is to far gone.
We have entered a time in history like no other, hold on tight it’s going to get much worse!

The gun control types think they can legislate morality on violence. The pro-lifers think they can legislate morality on killing fetuses.

Neither will ever work.

You can not legislate your way out of culture. Period.

...and we have a culture that's sick. Between mental health crises (using the term incorrectly) and more importantly the willingness of health providers to prescribe psychotropic drugs at the drop of a hat, we're in for a rough ride. Could be that it'll take an existential external threat to the nation to 'snap people out of it' but I doubt that'll even work.

Buckle up, Dorothy cause Kansas is going bye-bye before it gets better

TL/DR: fix the culure and the 'gun violence' goes away

M

 

[Maggot]

Well, ya FINALLY came around to my point of view. I told you this last year, Maggot. Good on ya! Put your foot down. Draw yer line in the sand. You are beginning to understand that as a Christian believer, as a born-again child of God, as a blood-bought servant of the Lord Jesus, we DO have power & authority. Not over people, but over demonic entities & malevolent spirits who oppose God, His people & attempt to hinder & destroy His plans.

My favorite picture of Jesus is found in Joshua 5:13-15. It describes Joshua doing a leader's recon before assaulting the city of Jerico. He encounters a man standing there WITH A DRAWN SWORD in his hand. He calls himself the Commander-in-Chief of the Lord's army & allows Joshua to worship him, so this is no mere angel. It is, in my opinion, the Lord Jesus himself.

Joshua's reply is classic gospel: "What are your commands?" And Joshua immediately obeys whatever he was told. This should be our response as servants of Jesus as well. Filter out & disregard any other voice. John 10:3-5 Jesus tells us that it is totally normal for Christians to hear His voice. John 14:15 if you love me, obey me...

Looks to me like you are indeed receiving input from the Spirit of God, & taking action.

Bub, I've known all this for a long time. It's only that the Hide has changed (for the better) that I'm feeling comfortable bridging the subject here. That, and the fact that I came into a good deal of 'power' early on, mis used it, and paid a steep price. So I've learned caution.

In our world today, it can be difficult to filter out all but the truth, another reason I move slowly. This is not pointed a you, just a generality, but I have little trust/respect for those who spit out reams of verse and scripture, really knowing nothing about what they mean. One prime example is the misunderstanding of the true battle. The true battle is not in this world, not of the flesh. There may be short lived, temporary victory (not really) with guns or other weapons, but that leads ultimately to failure. The true battle is in the spirit. "We wrestle not against flesh and blood". When I see people missing this critical point I tend to disengage from them quickly.

As I've come to understand it, at the most fundamental level, the battle is about liberty, or slavery. Freedom = Good / slavery = Evil.

This leaves me pondering, how we, as a group, not as Sniper's Hide, thats Frank's gig, but as a group of individuals who much like a church share similar thoughts, can employ this power. I dont think there's any deliverance for 'The World' that story is written. Perhaps only a morning meeting that we share our intent to stand strong. Daily prayer meeting? This isnt 'MY' thread, I'm just kind of moderating it, so to speak, I'm open to any good ideas.

Damn, I gotta get the trash out before the truck runs....Later

 

[Ronws]

What can make christians stronger than evil is the faith. You cannot scare a man who is not scared of death. Been there, done that.

But also accept that the evil ones are going to kill you. I mean literally and it is a foregone conclusion. What matters is that you leave in grace and don't let the evil triumph. For example, not that they are normal picture of christians, look at the fearlessness of Kid Rock and Travis Tritt against the evil we face now. They could lose money and be "canceled" but they are standing their ground against evil. It may kill them, but not their honor or faith in God.

We need that in ourselves. Most people are afraid of dying. Plenty are afraid of being fired and losing money from saying the "wrong thing."

Get past that fear. If God has a reward for you, then you have nothing to lose. But if you lose the value and center of your soul, then you have nothing, regardless currency and shiny bits of metal and carbon.

The evil encroaching will kill you. Be not afraid. To the very last breath behold the glory of God and spit in the eye of the devil and his hordes.

 

[tomcatmv]

As someone once said, "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition".

 

[Maggot]

What can make christians stronger than evil is the faith. You cannot scare a man who is not scared of death. Been there, done that.

But also accept that the evil ones are going to kill you. I mean literally and it is a foregone conclusion. What matters is that you leave in grace and don't let the evil triumph. For example, not that they are normal picture of christians, look at the fearlessness of Kid Rock and Travis Tritt against the evil we face now. They could lose money and be "canceled" but they are standing their ground against evil. It may kill them, but not their honor or faith in God.

We need that in ourselves. Most people are afraid of dying. Plenty are afraid of being fired and losing money from saying the "wrong thing."

Get past that fear. If God has a reward for you, then you have nothing to lose. But if you lose the value and center of your soul, then you have nothing, regardless currency and shiny bits of metal and carbon.

The evil encroaching will kill you. Be not afraid. To the very last breath behold the glory of God and spit in the eye of the devil and his hordes.

 

[BLEE]

Satan, in his God-envy, hated God for being God and hates himself, because he is less than God. We, men and women do the very same thing. Eve sinned, first, to have God's knowledge. Cain murdered, first, because he wanted to live his way and was jealous of Abel, who pleased God, by living God's way. Nimrod was the first tyrant, bent on domination of the known world, at that time. These behaviors, including the self-hate, are rooted in a envy, hatred and resentment for God, the Almighty. Once we admit that God is the Almighty, and is in control, then when we humble ourselves, repenting, before God, we can seek his will and find peace in our own lives, when there is zero peace in the world.

 

[Ronws]

Satan, in his God-envy, hated God for being God and hates himself, because he is less than God. We, men and women do the very same thing. Eve sinned, first, to have God's knowledge. Cain murdered, first, because he wanted to live his way and was jealous of Abel, who pleased God, by living God's way. Nimrod was the first tyrant, bent on domination of the known world, at that time. These behaviors, including the self-hate, are rooted in a envy, hatred and resentment for God, the Almighty. Once we admit that God is the Almighty, and is in control, then when we humble ourselves, repenting, before God, we can seek his will and find peace in our own lives, when there is zero peace in the world.

Probably one of the most strenuous exercises in humility is to read "The Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis. But, in the end, you get the point.

 

[Lombardia]

We've speculated as to why these people snap and go on killing sprees, generally writing it off to 'mental illness', but that doesnt really answer any questions as to 'why' or how to deal with it.

When I was 50 years younger I was a very angry, violent, dangerous, young man and came within a hair of 'going postal'. Fortunately, or unfortunately according to your view of me, a true miracle occurred and Maggot is still with us.

I wont go into my own personal struggles but rather what I learned in unraveling them . I believe I might shed some light on why these things happen.


Im not speaking of times when two idiots collide, like the two in Texax (Chad and Kyle?) fighting over visiting rights. Thats just a couple of morons intersecting

The reason people do these things, and I believe the same energy causes all this transexual and other sickness we're facing, 95% of the time boils down to one thing. Poor self esteem, AKA, self hate. Somebody, somewhere, somehow, or a confluence of events, caused this person to see themselves as bad, perhaps evil, undeserving of value. and respect Doesnt matter if it was Mommy emotionally abusing, or Daddy being a violent asshole, or uncle Joe doing a bit of diddling with the children, ar a bright kid being abused by stupid thugs. they feel dirty, worthless, frightened and dreading the future. I finally realized Its like a blackness on your soul, and there's no just pulling yourself up by your boot straps. Try to imagine the horror hating yourself enough to even hate your own gender. Have you ever done something that you were ashamed of or really embarrassed by? Remember how awful and dark your soul felt? Imagine that multiplied by 100 and no relenting, no rest. That being is truly and deeply damaged and in a lot of pain. At some point all that pain just explodes. Sometimes people just destroy themselves in suicide or sometimes they turn the blame out and take it out on others.

When it reaches that level I'm not sure that any traditional type therapies can deal with this sort of stuff. I've come to think that when some are so deeply wounded in the soul, other non physical entities are able to attach themselves and feed on that pain and suffering, even stirring it up to cause more to feed on. Remember the story of the boy that Jesus healed who kept throwing himself into the fire? In the past they were at times called demons. Doesnt matter what you call them, but It takes power to deal with those entities and reason alone generally doesnt get you there, it takes a higher power. It is available. When our hearts are clear we can access it, but only if you know you can. For those who love and follow Christ it is our heritage. Prayer is a beginning. Then putting on the whole armor as mentioned in: Set us pray for, and fight spiritually, the forces fighting to destroy our country and liberty. We have a powerful group here and already have on prayer thread, but I'd like this one to take a narrow focus. I'll bump this everytime one of theses things happens and feel free to bring it up. It take a focus of power. DC is full of this demonic poison and a good place to focus.

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Ephesians 6:10-18​

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==================================================================================​

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New International Version​

​

​

​

The Armor of God​

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.​

18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.​

​

With this thread, and in conjunction with 'The Prayer Request Thread' I speak power to the break of the demonic force that is fighting to take control of our country and government. I know there are many churches doing this, but brothers, Ive seen power in this place, lets use it. Everytime one of these events occurs Im going to bring this thread up, and anyone who joins me is free to bring it up at any time.​

​

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++​

​

I reckon if Frank of the Mod's feel this in appropriate they can remove it, but its the only answer I've found to whats going on.​

​

If you dont share our belief, please at least be respectful​

Maggot

Look up "Borderline Personality Disorder" and understand that while it used to be thought it was mostly female there is a 50/50 split between the two real genders. There was a study that showed almost all trans youth had it going hand in hand with the terrible and unstable self image. Of the Axis 2 (personality disoders) Cluster B which are the most dangerous, it is the most brilliant in all senses of the word. Also the most explosive and unpredictable. All the individual disorders are part of the same spectrum but the least compensated, most unpredictable, most prone to rage and violence and most unpredictable is the borderline. Narcissists need adulation and get pissed when they don't get reaffirmation they are probably the best compensated of the bunch but not much fun once they sink those claws in. Histrionics same but more seductive and petulant in your face about it. Sociopaths have a purpose and that same God as the Narcissits, themselves, but are a little better at trampling on you without emotion getting mad only when they get in trouble for their misdeeds. But the borderlines, oh the borderlines and their fear of abandonment. Normal people experience emotions in greyscale; BPD people experience emotions in vivid colors throughout the entire spectrum and when they experience the bad ones, watch out!

Read about it. You may (or may not) recognize yourself. It's hard to tell from afar but you speak with at least some of the passion of one and I definitely feel for you because to get it you have to have suffered a lot in life, especially when young. It's far more common than previously thought. But you'll see in it the most empathetic, charming and beautiful, yet explosive, wrathful and vengeful of all the mental matrices and personality types out there. If you can help it never cross a borderline they stay pissed often carrying grudges for decades. Perhaps this is the most likely type to engage in a mass shooting. That or a CIA sponsored bot but that's another conversation.

 

[Maggot]

Look up "Borderline Personality Disorder" and understand that while it used to be thought it was mostly female there is a 50/50 split between the two real genders. There was a study that showed almost all trans youth had it going hand in hand with the terrible and unstable self image. Of the Axis 2 (personality disoders) Cluster B which are the most dangerous, it is the most brilliant in all senses of the word. Also the most explosive and unpredictable. All the individual disorders are part of the same spectrum but the least compensated, most unpredictable, most prone to rage and violence and most unpredictable is the borderline. Narcissists need adulation and get pissed when they don't get reaffirmation they are probably the best compensated of the bunch but not much fun once they sink those claws in. Histrionics same but more seductive and petulant in your face about it. Sociopaths have a purpose and that same God as the Narcissits, themselves, but are a little better at trampling on you without emotion getting mad only when they get in trouble for their misdeeds. But the borderlines, oh the borderlines and their fear of abandonment. Normal people experience emotions in greyscale; BPD people experience emotions in vivid colors throughout the entire spectrum and when they experience the bad ones, watch out!

Read about it. You may (or may not) recognize yourself. It's hard to tell from afar but you speak with at least some of the passion of one and I definitely feel for you because to get it you have to have suffered a lot in life, especially when young. It's far more common than previously thought. But you'll see in it the most empathetic, charming and beautiful, yet explosive, wrathful and vengeful of all the mental matrices and personality types out there. If you can help it never cross a borderline they stay pissed often carrying grudges for decades. Perhaps this is the most likely type to engage in a mass shooting. That or a CIA sponsored bot but that's another conversation.

Interesting.

As I mentioned, for me it was 50 years ago. I'm just a pleasant happy little camper these days.

I encountered a woman with multiple personality disorder. She even had names for the different personalities. While talking with her I watched her change physically from a beautiful young girl, to a wretched, angry bitch in a second, then to a third form. It was really something to behold.

 

[Lombardia]

Interesting.

As I mentioned, for me it was 50 years ago. I'm just a pleasant happy little camper these days.

IT's almost impossible to attribute a diagnosis through distance, only that which you wrote implies certain characteristics of deep empathy, suffering and also rage. Almost like you feel things a lot more than everyone else. Those are borderline traits. Like always it's never all or nothing there is always a continuum and even with BPD the continuum exists in terms of better or lesser compensated, one can be both at different times or have some but not all the traits and so forth. All else being equal it tends to mellow out with age.

It has a really bad rap because on the end the most decompensated like the mass shooters or crazy ladies all hog tied in the ER trying to sleep with everyone one moment and kill the staff the next while high on seven drugs at once get all the press but most of its victims rather suffer in silence and never seek help. Meds don't work that well except to tame symptoms and even therapy requires a LOT of work. On the upside like I Said there are so many wonderful people with it and they can be very analytical, intelligent, adaptive, creative and hugely empathic feeling others' suffering as well. They can also be exceedingly loyal friends as well.

Here is something on the topic I read some time ago it's probably the most descriptive essay I have ever written and everyone I knew who had BPD resonated hugely. Yes not plagiarized someone else wrote it:

"
Two analogies I use - the short one: normal people experience emotions in greyscale; BPD people experience emotions in vivid colors throughout the entire spectrum.

My favorite analogy however is the story of the Sirens in the epic Greek poem The Odyssey. To survive sailing past the Sirens and their enchantingly beautiful but deadly song, all of the crew had their ears stuffed with wax so they couldn’t hear it. But Odysseus had the crew tie him to the mast with the strongest ropes on board, with strict orders not to untie or cut the ropes, no matter how much he begged or ordered them to. A couple of the crew were assigned to watch over and tighten the ropes if it appeared that Odysseus might work loose from them.

And Odysseus experienced the beauty of the Siren Song, the pain and emotions far beyond what any person had felt and lived to tell about it. He wept, he begged to be freed from the ropes to jump overboard to his death. His crew however just made the ropes tighter. The emotional anguish was unbearable. But Odysseus also experienced at its most extreme, the most beautiful sounds, felt the most wonderful passions, joy and happiness also far beyond the experience of normal people.

This is how Borderline Personality Disorder has seemed to operate in my life. I’ve been in the darkest emotional holes with a sense of absolute hopelessness. But the joy, happiness, the intense love, the consuming passions….few can understand what I’ve experienced on that end of the spectrum as well. Music becomes literally tangible; I often start sobbing when listening to classical music.

It’s one hell of a price to pay, yet decades of psychotherapy and a lifelong commitment to being self-aware and constantly working on myself helps to keep myself tied to the mast of the ship, relying less and less on others to keep me secured and from jumping to my death.

No drug exists (and I have tried them all) that can even come close to producing the feelings I’ve felt, courtesy of BPD. I’ve felt the world with such passion and seen things so indescribably beautiful that it’s difficult to describe to others. And a few times in my life, I have loved and been loved with a depth that is literally unfathomable, the emotional clarity of the memories I’ve formed….all of these are experiences few have known to this degree. It just requires lifelong work on keeping myself tied securely, and while I’ve felt emotional pain to a degree where shooting myself in the head would have been euthanasia, it’s hard to wish that I didn’t have BPD, because while I regret the burdens I’ve often placed on others to hold the ropes for me before I learned to do it myself, what I have gained and the precious value of it will forever remain a part of my life. When I reach the end of my natural life, I know that I will have milked every drop of everything life has had to offer, and that is the wealth I carry in my soul when I meet my maker."

 

[Carlos Danger]

I think I agree with Maggot on the low self esteem aspect. I also believe that has been coupled with an inability to manage emotions and failure. I believe many have touched on parenting, or lack thereof. These, in my opinion, are all intertwined and have accumulated into what we are seeing today.

Lazy parents creating poorly parented children who have little to no ability to handle anything in life that "hurts" them. Next to no consequences for lashing out against others when they cannot handle a setback or frustration. Too many medals and trophies for kids that don't come in first place.

Life is not about constant wins and successes. It's about sparse wins and successes in between ongoing frustrations and failures. Our current political and technological climate has exponentially advanced this concept by limiting human interaction and handicapping abilities to deal with other human beings.

Very few people want to address the issue at hand because the means by which to right the ship will not be easy.....and the easy path has been taken by so many for far too long.

 

[Maggot]

IT's almost impossible to attribute a diagnosis through distance, only that which you wrote implies certain characteristics of deep empathy, suffering and also rage. Almost like you feel things a lot more than everyone else. Those are borderline traits. Like always it's never all or nothing there is always a continuum and even with BPD the continuum exists in terms of better or lesser compensated, one can be both at different times or have some but not all the traits and so forth. All else being equal it tends to mellow out with age.

It has a really bad rap because on the end the most decompensated like the mass shooters or crazy ladies all hog tied in the ER trying to sleep with everyone one moment and kill the staff the next while high on seven drugs at once get all the press but most of its victims rather suffer in silence and never seek help. Meds don't work that well except to tame symptoms and even therapy requires a LOT of work. On the upside like I Said there are so many wonderful people with it and they can be very analytical, intelligent, adaptive, creative and hugely empathic feeling others' suffering as well. They can also be exceedingly loyal friends as well.

Here is something on the topic I read some time ago it's probably the most descriptive essay I have ever written and everyone I knew who had BPD resonated hugely. Yes not plagiarized someone else wrote it:

"
Two analogies I use - the short one: normal people experience emotions in greyscale; BPD people experience emotions in vivid colors throughout the entire spectrum.

My favorite analogy however is the story of the Sirens in the epic Greek poem The Odyssey. To survive sailing past the Sirens and their enchantingly beautiful but deadly song, all of the crew had their ears stuffed with wax so they couldn’t hear it. But Odysseus had the crew tie him to the mast with the strongest ropes on board, with strict orders not to untie or cut the ropes, no matter how much he begged or ordered them to. A couple of the crew were assigned to watch over and tighten the ropes if it appeared that Odysseus might work loose from them.

And Odysseus experienced the beauty of the Siren Song, the pain and emotions far beyond what any person had felt and lived to tell about it. He wept, he begged to be freed from the ropes to jump overboard to his death. His crew however just made the ropes tighter. The emotional anguish was unbearable. But Odysseus also experienced at its most extreme, the most beautiful sounds, felt the most wonderful passions, joy and happiness also far beyond the experience of normal people.

This is how Borderline Personality Disorder has seemed to operate in my life. I’ve been in the darkest emotional holes with a sense of absolute hopelessness. But the joy, happiness, the intense love, the consuming passions….few can understand what I’ve experienced on that end of the spectrum as well. Music becomes literally tangible; I often start sobbing when listening to classical music.

It’s one hell of a price to pay, yet decades of psychotherapy and a lifelong commitment to being self-aware and constantly working on myself helps to keep myself tied to the mast of the ship, relying less and less on others to keep me secured and from jumping to my death.

No drug exists (and I have tried them all) that can even come close to producing the feelings I’ve felt, courtesy of BPD. I’ve felt the world with such passion and seen things so indescribably beautiful that it’s difficult to describe to others. And a few times in my life, I have loved and been loved with a depth that is literally unfathomable, the emotional clarity of the memories I’ve formed….all of these are experiences few have known to this degree. It just requires lifelong work on keeping myself tied securely, and while I’ve felt emotional pain to a degree where shooting myself in the head would have been euthanasia, it’s hard to wish that I didn’t have BPD, because while I regret the burdens I’ve often placed on others to hold the ropes for me before I learned to do it myself, what I have gained and the precious value of it will forever remain a part of my life. When I reach the end of my natural life, I know that I will have milked every drop of everything life has had to offer, and that is the wealth I carry in my soul when I meet my maker."

With no sarcasm or joking I can say "I feel you, brother." And I know what you've been through. As you said, if you havent lived through it, you cant imagine it. As you mentioned, having survived, it tends to mellow with age. I can say this...if I were given a choice, go back before I was born and live through all this again, or flip a switch and skip it all, I'd skip it. There is nothing, nothing Ive experienced here, that would let me go through the horror again.

Thats not a complaint, just a fact.

 

[Lombardia]

With no sarcasm or joking I can say "I feel you, brother." And I know what you've been through. As you said, if you havent lived through it, you cant imagine it. As you mentioned, having survived, it tends to mellow with age. I can say this...if I were given a choice, go back before I was born and live through all this again, or flip a switch and skip it all, I'd skip it. There is nothing, nothing Ive experienced here, that would let me go through the horror again.

Thats not a complaint, just a fact.

I hear you. Am starting to wake up to it just for the fact that I knew a few people very close to me that I strongly suspect have (or had it) and two killed themselves, one recently. I have started to educate myself about it. Very eye opening.

Both the love and hate, fear and passion can be and at the same time. Borderline is a state of mind of extreme feelings, the "borderline between psychosis and neurosis" as Freud coined it. What is very constant is that within these extremes it tends to be a rigid way of thinking as well as behaving so in a way it's predictably unpredictable. Once you have the set points here and there you can very easily expect certain thought patterns and certain behaviors in that range and that can be a good thing because once the patient understands it they themselves can live with it extremely well. The problem of course is that when the sufferer has these feelings each time feels like the first and it's a new experience and the reality of the borderline is how they're feeling in the moment. They have to come to the realization that it's actually old hat, the same thing over and over again. Eventually most actually do, most aren't as bad as the handful of decompensated cases make it out to be and only the last few years is medicine/psychiatry realizing that the overwhelming majority don't actually give it a bad name and suffer in silence. Just like gun owners!