USSC 2A case...

[SilentStalkr]

This going to go for or against us? Discuss.

Supreme Court to hear gun-control case next term on carrying weapons outside home — The Washington Post

The court announced it will take an NRA-backed challenge to a century-old New York law that requires a special reason for concealed weapon permit.

apple.news

 

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Depends of how many of those pussies want to do their job, or how many want to "abstain due to conflict of interest"

 

[GUNNER10]

This going to go for or against us? Discuss.

Supreme Court to hear gun-control case next term on carrying weapons outside home — The Washington Post

The court announced it will take an NRA-backed challenge to a century-old New York law that requires a special reason for concealed weapon permit.

apple.news

Prediction

5v4 for us basically stating the the following

The State's denial of applications for concealed-carry licenses for self-defense violate the Second Amendment, but excessive training is ok

Or some variation of that bs

 

[Charger442]

if its not 6-3 to uphold COTUS, then we are seriously screwed.

but i could seriously see it being Alito, Thomas, Amy, Brett, and Gorsuch. vs the Axis of Evil with their newest recruit, Roberts.

Edit to add: i hope Thomas writes the majority opinion. He is incredible with how he puts those together. Since we lost Scalia, we need someone else who can reinforce the 2nd amendment, though i am not happy that Scalia left a door open in Heller.

 

[rtB]

I question why they would take this up now... They've been ignoring these 2A cases for years.

 

[c1steve]

Because with the RBG witch gone, we have numbers on our side.

 

[Howland]

OP's link leads to a Washington Post paywall. Here's a different link.

NRA-ILA | Supreme Court Grants Cert in Second Amendment Concealed Carry Case

Today the U.S. Supreme Court decided to hear an NRA-backed case challenging New York’s restrictive concealed-carry-licensing regime.

www.nraila.org

Both keeping and bearing arms are a right. Statutes that reduce it to a privilege which must be asked for are no less repugnant to the Constitution than those that criminalize the acts altogether.

Asking permission, paying a fee or tax for a license to do that which is a right, enduring prior restraint while waiting for said permission and taking no for an answer in those states where the legislatures have made issuance discretionary is not how rights work!

 

[Mister Ridge]

I believe there is some precedent in our favor, but I no longer feel logic applies to anything. The lunacy of the world right now is mind boggling. Nothing is certain.

 

[Choid]

if its not 6-3 to uphold COTUS, then we are seriously screwed.

but i could seriously see it being Alito, Thomas, Amy, Brett, and Gorsuch. vs the Axis of Evil with their newest recruit, Roberts.

Edit to add: i hope Thomas writes the majority opinion. He is incredible with how he puts those together. Since we lost Scalia, we need someone else who can reinforce the 2nd amendment, though i am not happy that Scalia left a door open in Heller.

Thomas is a much better justice than Scalia was, and we are seeing a lot of Scalia's faults in recent strong agency action. Not to say he wasn't a good justice, but Thomas, Alito and probably Gorsuch and Barrett, are probably better over all. This is likely a 5-3-1 decision with Roberts having a partial concurrence partial dissent. The question is whether Thomas can keep Kavanaugh on to a strong opinion, or whether he gets wobbly.

 

[Slash0311]

I've been amazed at how majority opinions have been written very narrowly and leaving the door open. I suspect they'll say something that will invalidate the law but leave it open for state restrictions and licensing to be left intact.

We don't need a permit to exercise our 1st amendment rights (we just need facebooks) so why do we need one for the 2nd?

 

[GUNNER10]

I've been amazed at how majority opinions have been written very narrowly and leaving the door open. I suspect they'll say something that will invalidate the law but leave it open for state restrictions and licensing to be left intact.

We don't need a permit to exercise our 1st amendment rights (we just need facebooks) so why do we need one for the 2nd?

Agree.

MAY Issue being ruled unconstitutional but a 200 hour training course, and or 10k tax associated with issue would prove to fall in line with the NFA tax at the time of issue.

 

[Flyingbullseye]

Hmmm, NRA backed. We're screwed

 

[Franko]

This could be a significant victory for gun rights or it could turn into nothing but a disappointment. I expect to be disappointed once again...

 

[SilentStalkr]

Thomas is a much better justice than Scalia was, and we are seeing a lot of Scalia's faults in recent strong agency action. Not to say he wasn't a good justice, but Thomas, Alito and probably Gorsuch and Barrett, are probably better over all. This is likely a 5-3-1 decision with Roberts having a partial concurrence partial dissent. The question is whether Thomas can keep Kavanaugh on to a strong opinion, or whether he gets wobbly.

This is a good point, imo.

Scalia most certainly was not consistent with his writings as an individual about his methods of statutory interpretation in some of the opinions he wrote as as SCOTUS justice.

Overall, a good justice in relation to modern justices.

I would even go as far as to say as a not insignificant percentage of the opinions he wrote were shit but whenever he dissented it was typically spot on.

Just out of curiosity, why do you all think he was taken out?

 

[Choid]

Just out of curiosity, why do you all think he was taken out?

lol, I think he was a fat guy who died.

 

[SilentStalkr]

lol, I think he was a fat guy who died.

Maybe.

 

[Choid]

Maybe.

Here's one thing I don't get. I think everybody would agree that the US has been absolutely retarded at clandestine warfare, since it started to attempt it. That goes quadruple for the CIA. We just suck at it. We have always offloaded it to more competent allies. Hell, look at how lame the whole Russian collusion hoax was, and that was their best and brightest. We just don't get it right. Now, given that backdrop, why are people so convinced that our deep state is awesome at offing supreme court justices, killing people like Seth Rich, stealing elections, when we bungled that everywhere else in the world, and all this other craziness. I don't get it.

W/r/t Scalia, he was old and very fat. That is the kind of person who does tend to die. God bless him, and I mean that, but he lived a good life, left behind brilliant children and a legacy. They don't seem to think he was murdered, unless we assume they were also in on the fucking master plot.

 

[mtrmn]

Our enemies own the USSC. By refusing to hear a single case of election fraud this was demonstrated when it mattered the most. NONE of the 3 branches of federal government are going to make any effort to try and save this country. I doubt we make it to the next major election before the final nail is driven in the casket of the CONUS.

 

[SilentStalkr]

Here's one thing I don't get. I think everybody would agree that the US has been absolutely retarded at clandestine warfare, since it started to attempt it. That goes quadruple for the CIA. We just suck at it. We have always offloaded it to more competent allies. Hell, look at how lame the whole Russian collusion hoax was, and that was their best and brightest. We just don't get it right. Now, given that backdrop, why are people so convinced that our deep state is awesome at offing supreme court justices, killing people like Seth Rich, stealing elections, when we bungled that everywhere else in the world, and all this other craziness. I don't get it.

W/r/t Scalia, he was old and very fat. That is the kind of person who does tend to die. God bless him, and I mean that, but he lived a good life, left behind brilliant children and a legacy. They don't seem to think he was murdered, unless we assume they were also in on the fucking master plot.

Come on man. We ain’t that bad at it, there’s a ton of stuff behind the scenes nobody sees, that’s just the crumbs they want you to follow. I mean you should know, wasn’t your uncle the wet works guy?

 

[Charger442]

Just out of curiosity, why do you all think he was taken out?

Oldest conservative justice that was doing leisurely things in rural counties with no strict medical examiner procedures. If Thomas had been hunting in West Texas, it would have been him. Likewise for Alito

 

[sjmpcc022]

lol, I think he was a fat guy who died.

Maybe.

I'm not sure what happened but from the first day it seemed fishy.

How long do you think Darth Vader Ginsburg was dead before they finally had to announce it 7ish months ago?????????????????

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

Fuck those elitest black robed bastards!!!
It's pretty fucking simple. Shall NOT Be Infringed!!

 

[Choid]

Come on man. We ain’t that bad at it, there’s a ton of stuff behind the scenes nobody sees, that’s just the crumbs they want you to follow. I mean you should know, wasn’t your uncle the wet works guy?

Only wet works any of my uncles did was to own a strip show on Times Square.

 

[Howland]

Our enemies own the USSC. By refusing to hear a single case of election fraud this was demonstrated when it mattered the most. NONE of the 3 branches of federal government are going to make any effort to try and save this country. I doubt we make it to the next major election before the final nail is driven in the casket of the CONUS.

The elections weren't contested in the courts to test the legitimacy of the elections, we know they were fraudulent. The elections were contested in the courts to test the legitimacy of the courts.

The Republic is dead.

 

[SilentStalkr]

The elections weren't contested in the courts to test the legitimacy of the elections, we know they were fraudulent. The elections were contested in the courts to test the legitimacy of the courts.

The Republic is dead.

And yet here we sit.

 

[The King]

OP's link leads to a Washington Post paywall. Here's a different link.

NRA-ILA | Supreme Court Grants Cert in Second Amendment Concealed Carry Case

Today the U.S. Supreme Court decided to hear an NRA-backed case challenging New York’s restrictive concealed-carry-licensing regime.

www.nraila.org

Both keeping and bearing arms are a right. Statutes that reduce it to a privilege which must be asked for are no less repugnant to the Constitution than those that criminalize the acts altogether.

Asking permission, paying a fee or tax for a license to do that which is a right, enduring prior restraint while waiting for said permission and taking no for an answer in those states where the legislatures have made issuance discretionary is not how rights work!

That one is behind a paywall too.

When I click on it says “Wayne Lapierre's Private Jet, the Embezzlement Express, needs expensive repairs. And his dick is dry. If you donate $2000, Wayne will send you a Medal of True Friendship.”

 

[louu]

Isn't this exactly what the Heller case was about?

 

[FS1]

Isn't this exactly what the Heller case was about?

No. Heller was about an all out ban on handguns registered after 1975 in DC. Also it was about DC's requirement that guns in the home must be kept in an inoperable condition. At least that's how I think it went.

The court taking the case means something will likely change. What that is? Who knows. But logic says if they intended to uphold the law they likely would not have taken it. JMHO

With the current status of NYC people need to carry to be safe. If NYC gets carry you can expect anyone that uses a carry in self defense, will have their lives ruined by over zealous Liberal prosecutors and BLM brownshirts. Also JMHO.