21 to 19 Senator Amanda Chase gave a passionate defense of the 2nd Amendment and how it would be treasonous to support the bill and violate citizens rights. All she got in response was a caution about calling senators traitors if they voted yes.
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Virginia SB 240 Red Flag Passes Senate Floor Vote
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I just watched that part online at work. They are in recess now but will be back shortly.Not surprised though...
Any status updates on the other bills in committee?
that's a shame, and a travesty. when folks that have done nothing wrong are visited in the wee hours, they're going to expect the worst and meet their visitors armed, which will create dangerous conditions for both sides.
That's kind of the objective. Makes for good headlines and the politicians get to use the death or great bodily harm done to any number of officers caught in that situation to their advantage. LEO really need to take a long hard look at the red flag laws and understand that the injury or death that very well could occur to either side is only good for the politician. They don't care about any of the officers that have to respond and I wouldn't be surprised if they hope in some way some get hurt or killed in the process. In the aftermath they can then use that to justify why the laws were put there in the first place.
If you're LEO you need to pound it into the heads of any officer that's riding the fence on these laws. Not one politician that writes or votes it into law cares about you and those with you and or what happens to you. Just like the rest of the people in society you are to be used and thrown away when done with.
Let me state that again. If you're LEO, the politicians that write and put into law the red flag laws DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU AND WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU.
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They've seen the "repercussions" in other states.
SCOTUS is asleep at the wheel.
Anybody heard anything about RBG lately?...
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SCOTUS is asleep at the wheel.
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Wow! People are still surprised by this?
Well, to be fair. They are praying that the show on Monday May have swayed a communist into becoming a Patriot. You know....a leopard changing his spots and all that bullshit.
See, this prick doesn't want to get rid of all the guns only yours:
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Are they going to hire a food taster for the governor and his family?
Well those that do vote for gun control ARE traitors. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
Didn't Clinton have a State Police Protection, Pimp unit when he was governor?
How can a state pass laws that 'infringe' on the second amendment? Can't the feds step in to stop this? They were happy to step in to stop school segregation in the South, and schools are not even mentioned in the constitution. Or is this not a good analogy?
Wow....wasting no time in the VA Legislation department. Too bad they can't show this much vigor and attention to doing some good for their State and working on passing legislation that does something good for their constituents. Like clean water laws and health care legislation and keeping banks and financial organizations from fucking everything up.
They can't/won't do shit about the really bad things but *Boy Howdy* they can pass illegal legislation that deprives honest people of their Rights. Makes me fucking sick.....and they are immune/cannot be prosecuted, sued, or threatened in any way because they are immune to prosecution while they are drafting illegal laws.
Makes me sick. It's the same here in Illinois - they are well paid by their Owners and Operators to draft and pass legislation that makes their Owners/Operators filthy fucking rich at our expense or deprives US of our Rights but can they balance a budget, take care of the elderly, or help keep US safe? Fuck no.
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They can't/won't do shit about the really bad things but *Boy Howdy* they can pass illegal legislation that deprives honest people of their Rights. Makes me fucking sick.....and they are immune/cannot be prosecuted, sued, or threatened in any way because they are immune to prosecution while they are drafting illegal laws.
Makes me sick. It's the same here in Illinois - they are well paid by their Owners and Operators to draft and pass legislation that makes their Owners/Operators filthy fucking rich at our expense or deprives US of our Rights but can they balance a budget, take care of the elderly, or help keep US safe? Fuck no.
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From that link - " The most capable personnel from the Department are selected for this assignment to maintain a high level of loyalty, trust, and respect between the Governor and each trooper. "
Didn't these same closet communists have a freak fit when the President was asking for loyalty?
Having a spine is likely incomprehensible to them so they can't understand how others could have a line in the sand that they wont cross.
The bill has a section relieving authorities any responsibility for damage, loss or thief of firearms seized.
The whole goal of The Mom's is to have all the scary guns taken away from US because they think that if there are no guns then their babies will be safe. Only a naive Dilettante believes this *but* they are playing to Politicians who are so power hungry and so owned and operated that they are now afraid of We The People - Politicians want US disarmed because they are growing increasingly terrified of armed Resistance to illegal laws and violent overthrow of the bloated Oligarchy owned and operated Politicians.
The Moms are using the Politicians and the Politicians are using the Moms as an excuse to disarm America because they are *afraid* of US...increasingly more aware that they are reaching the limits of our tolerance for their illegal and unconstitutional legislation, they want US disarmed.
The problem is that disarmament is "End Game" to people like me. Once I am disarmed I am a slave and I cannot permit that. So I'll have to play hard at this game for as long as it takes until they understand. I have broken no laws....I don't even speed. I pay my bills, I pay my taxes. I protect and nurture those who have less than I because I am a free and righteous living American Man. I don't cheat, I don't lie, and I don't take what does not belong to me. I have dragged my butt out of bed at 5am for 48 years to go to work. I am a model citizen and some Politicians "on the take" to a Global Oligarchy and Big Business want me disarmed so they can fleece me and have me living like a dog?
We Will Not Comply. I Will Not Comply.
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The Moms are using the Politicians and the Politicians are using the Moms as an excuse to disarm America because they are *afraid* of US...increasingly more aware that they are reaching the limits of our tolerance for their illegal and unconstitutional legislation, they want US disarmed.
The problem is that disarmament is "End Game" to people like me. Once I am disarmed I am a slave and I cannot permit that. So I'll have to play hard at this game for as long as it takes until they understand. I have broken no laws....I don't even speed. I pay my bills, I pay my taxes. I protect and nurture those who have less than I because I am a free and righteous living American Man. I don't cheat, I don't lie, and I don't take what does not belong to me. I have dragged my butt out of bed at 5am for 48 years to go to work. I am a model citizen and some Politicians "on the take" to a Global Oligarchy and Big Business want me disarmed so they can fleece me and have me living like a dog?
We Will Not Comply. I Will Not Comply.
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Damn,
not one Dem voted against. This is a setback for sure. Here is the text of the law for anyone that is interested in reading. I'm not attorney nor do I play one on TV, but my wife is, and I am going to have her 'translate' it for me.
If she has any useful comments I will post them here as followup.
I think once this becomes law, it will be something county police departments will be responsible for enforcing. Folks in 2A Sanctuaries might therefore not need to worry about this as much, however I imagine the non-2A Sanctuaries will have PDs that apply Gestapo-like tactics (arriving in force in middle of the night) given the oblivious security risks involved in enforcement.
not one Dem voted against. This is a setback for sure. Here is the text of the law for anyone that is interested in reading. I'm not attorney nor do I play one on TV, but my wife is, and I am going to have her 'translate' it for me.
If she has any useful comments I will post them here as followup.
I think once this becomes law, it will be something county police departments will be responsible for enforcing. Folks in 2A Sanctuaries might therefore not need to worry about this as much, however I imagine the non-2A Sanctuaries will have PDs that apply Gestapo-like tactics (arriving in force in middle of the night) given the oblivious security risks involved in enforcement.
I am disappointed but not surprised it passed. I was hoping against hope that Monday made a serious impression on the Virginia democrats. We have our answer. I hope and pray that no-one gets hurt or worse before this can get to court. The democrats are lying about being able to sue for false claims. There is no prevision for that in the bill. Also, while their argument is over mental health issues, of gun owners, there is no mention of or prevision for mental health treatment in any of their bills.
Yeah, it’s ok guys, please do not worry because I keep hearing that something will be done at the opportune time. Well, I’ve been hearing that for like 37 years but seriously, it’s coming and people will do something, soon. I feel bad for you guys and CA, OR, WA, CO, IL and well let’s face it the entire country because they will all be the same in short order. Maybe that’s what people are waiting on.
With OUR Senate split at 21/19 at least all the R,s held their ground while the D's continue to be hell bent to push their evil agenda. Not only the attack on 2A but legislation on the attack of the first as well.
This is the new world order they are pushing for. Well, I'm a Virginian, an American, and a Bible preaching, gun toting, red, white, and blue American and this is getting old fast!
Speaking of Bible Preaching, Northam is nothing more than a Bloomberg puppet being paid to do these horrific atrocities against Our Commonwealth and law abiding Americans, " what does it profiteth a man to gain the world and loose his soul?"
Between selling us out and his stance on murder he is not only dealing with Bloomberg and Soros but the devil himself.
We Virginians have a watering bucket and that tree is looking kinda dry!
This is the new world order they are pushing for. Well, I'm a Virginian, an American, and a Bible preaching, gun toting, red, white, and blue American and this is getting old fast!
Speaking of Bible Preaching, Northam is nothing more than a Bloomberg puppet being paid to do these horrific atrocities against Our Commonwealth and law abiding Americans, " what does it profiteth a man to gain the world and loose his soul?"
Between selling us out and his stance on murder he is not only dealing with Bloomberg and Soros but the devil himself.
We Virginians have a watering bucket and that tree is looking kinda dry!
All of this gun grabbing is being financed by Bloomberg; make no mistake about it.
He is financing political campaigns and buying puppets any where he can.
He is financing political campaigns and buying puppets any where he can.
@ yakstone, strings can and will be cut. It is a crying shame that our morals, values, and constitution is being sold out to the highest bidder.
I believe the sanctity of life is greater than any monetary value, so is money everything? No, I have done quite well on in what My Daddy taught me. Some things and most people can't be bought! He has saddenly chosen a course that will end in much history written upon his folly.
Patrick Henry said it best and I'm sure you know it by heart.
I believe the sanctity of life is greater than any monetary value, so is money everything? No, I have done quite well on in what My Daddy taught me. Some things and most people can't be bought! He has saddenly chosen a course that will end in much history written upon his folly.
Patrick Henry said it best and I'm sure you know it by heart.
It is natural for man to indulge in the illusion of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth and listen to the song of that siren, till she transforms is into beasts. Is this, the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?
I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the state for the last ten years, to justify those hopes with which gentleman had been pleased to solace themselves? Is it that insidious smile with which our petition had been lately received?
Trust it not gentlemen, it will prove to be a snare at your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed by a kiss.
And one lamp to light my feet as well,
"Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path." Psalm 119:105
I said, " Bible Preaching". We must quit eating our own and stand United..... Which leads to my next pet peave, There is no comma in, " One nation under a god". !!!!
"Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path." Psalm 119:105
I said, " Bible Preaching". We must quit eating our own and stand United..... Which leads to my next pet peave, There is no comma in, " One nation under a god". !!!!
Hey now. If we can have flat Earth and dot Gov brought down the twin towers. I can start a Clinton had his guards killed at Waco conspiracy.
Don't poo poo on my fun.
Don't poo poo on my fun.
Everyone get their english correct. The is not a civil war, but a removal of violations of the constitution/tyranny. Redress of the people against the govt is over now. While we must wait to see if any of this makes it to court, we must prepare for the inevitable.
Either you defend your rights or let the ninja's take what they want when they come. No one can make that decision for you.
Either you defend your rights or let the ninja's take what they want when they come. No one can make that decision for you.
Um, as I have stated in the past, if you wait and fight the ninjas when they come then you have already lost. It won’t make any difference. To win this game you need numbers, otherwise you will he a blip on the news and labeled a terrorist and nobody will ever know what really happened.
Why? Why would Bloomberg be paying out millions and buying Politicians to deprive US of our Rights? What's in it for him?
Asking for a friend.....I'm not saying he's not buying our Politicians. I'm trying to understand why he wants to spend his "hard earned money" on destroying our Rights.
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It’s been said 100 times.
The USA is 25-30 years behind Europe.
Been like that since the 60’s.
It’s a pure numbers /population game.
There are more dems than Republicans.
And that means more votes against “us”. Not only more votes now but exponentially more votes going forward.
No amount of preparation will solve that.
No one is rising up
No one is shooting out if their window like hayfields and McCoy’s at the local sheriff.
If enforced people will just hide their weapons like every other country/population has on the planet.
If you a not a true believer in the 2A or know the possible ramifications gun control makes sense. What they don’t fully understand is that the govt are gluttons and will take until there is nothing left (as we all know).
Hopefully some larger townships refuse to enforce and it moves up the food chain in the court system.
The USA is 25-30 years behind Europe.
Been like that since the 60’s.
It’s a pure numbers /population game.
There are more dems than Republicans.
And that means more votes against “us”. Not only more votes now but exponentially more votes going forward.
No amount of preparation will solve that.
No one is rising up
No one is shooting out if their window like hayfields and McCoy’s at the local sheriff.
If enforced people will just hide their weapons like every other country/population has on the planet.
If you a not a true believer in the 2A or know the possible ramifications gun control makes sense. What they don’t fully understand is that the govt are gluttons and will take until there is nothing left (as we all know).
Hopefully some larger townships refuse to enforce and it moves up the food chain in the court system.
Same reason he banned large sodas in NYC. He is a arrogant little prick that thinks the USA needs him to tell the dumb masses how to live and what to eat, so we can be safe. He believes himself smarter than everyone else, also he has never met anyone that could not be bought. This is has been proven true based on the amount of money he has thrown at recent elections at local, state and fed level.
slate.com
Michael Bloomberg Is Good at Throwing Money at Elections and Winning
Bloomberg knows how to spend his money.
thanks, appreciate these updates...
Any word on some of those really terrible bills, e.g. training, possession, ammo restrictions, shooting ranges, etc etc etc????
Any word on some of those really terrible bills, e.g. training, possession, ammo restrictions, shooting ranges, etc etc etc????
For guys like him it's about consolidation of power and control.
For the guys that give him the marching orders and grease the skids, it's about prepping the world for satan come to fix up the joint.
Problem reaction solution.
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