Rifle Scopes Vortex Razor HD LHT!!!

[Tyler Kemp]

Surprised there hasn't been a formal thread posted. Vortex gave permission to release info today, so here ya go.

Looks basically like a Razor LH with a 30mm tube, a few more reticle options, illuminated reticle, and an exposed elevation turret.

Pretty badass basically, I'm excited to put one on a rig. All 3-15x options, I have a 2-10x model now on a 375 and love it. This will sit well on a light bullpup.

I'm offering 25% down preorders, with a free billet 30mm Ultra Low-Pro Level, free throw lever, and 99% off a set of rings. The Warne Mountain Techs are super light and a great match for this optic IMO!

Razor HD LHT

Razor HD LHT (Includes Free Pro Series Throw Lever and Billet Level) Take 25% Off Rings or Mounts. Includes Free Shipping!

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[moochy28]

Whats the price on these going to be??

 

[Send One]

Objective diameter?

 

[bribassguy]

Should be around $1000 for the 3-15 if I am reading his correctly... but there is some "free" stuff and heavily discounted rings built into that price.

 

[Rerun7]

Does this fall somewhere between a pst 2 and razor in quality or is it a totally different animal?

 

[bribassguy]

I have not seen one but they naming convention would imply this would be optical better than PST given Razor name... the old ones were great.

 

[koshkin]

It is a part of the Razor line-up

 

[Rerun7]

Yeah, I saw the Razor name but at a street price and weight so much lower I wasn’t sure. Looks like it could be a great hunting optic.

 

[lennyo3034]

Something seems off about that FoV: 24.6 ft?

The PST Gen 2 is like 42ft at same magnification.

 

[koshkin]

Something seems off about that FoV: 24.6 ft?

The PST Gen 2 is like 42ft at same magnification.

There is a typo on the website. They are fixing it. It is narrower FOV than PST Gen 2 though.

ILya

 

[Baron85]

I assume it’s second focal plane? I sure do love my 2-10hdlh and this looks like a large improvement. If it is first focal plane I would be all over it!

Is there going to be a lower mag range available?

 

[mark5pt56]

Looks like I found the scope for the Sig Cross when it comes out.

 

[beetroot]

There is a typo on the website. They are fixing it. It is narrower FOV than PST Gen 2 though.

ILya

Most optics do, the FOV on the 3-15x44 is stupid wide!
Basically spoiled all my other optics as I'm a bit of a FOV whore.

Website has been updated; FOV 35.3-7.0 ft@100yards
Noticably less than the Leupold VX5hd 3-15: 38.3-7.9
Considerably less than the PST G2 3-15: 41.2-8.6

Leupold released a Mil/Mil VX5hd this year, be interesting to see how the Razor and VX5 compare.

 

[lennyo3034]

There is a typo on the website. They are fixing it. It is narrower FOV than PST Gen 2 though.

ILya

Ok good. That would have been a deal breaker. Completely understand having a narrower FOV than PST2. That thing is great. As long as it’s in mid 30s, I’m ok with it.

 

[Glassaholic]

What on earth is a BDC MRAD? Is it BDC or is it MRAD? A SFP Razor will have a lot of appeal, but not for me, even for hunting I prefer FFP.

 

[wade2big]

What on earth is a BDC MRAD? Is it BDC or is it MRAD? A SFP Razor will have a lot of appeal, but not for me, even for hunting I prefer FFP.

Mrad turrets and a bdc reticle.

 

[DangerRanger]

BDC reticle with MRAR turret

MRAD reticle MRAD turret

MOA reticle MOA turret

 

[Glassaholic]

Mrad turrets and a bdc reticle.

So simple a child could have figured it out ?. My brain was thinking both pertained to the reticle, but this makes perfect sense.

 

[Tyler Kemp]

Thanks for the orders guys! Keep em coming

 

[D2junky]

Was hoping I’d stretch them out this weekend but it’s dumping snow.

Have several of the HD LH and have always struggled seeing parts of the reticle....not a problem with these. Still puzzled why the BDC on the 50.

Turrets don’t have the clickiest clicks but I wouldn’t go so far as to say mushy.

 

[PFG]

Was hoping I’d stretch them out this weekend but it’s dumping snow.

Have several of the HD LH and have always struggled seeing parts of the reticle....not a problem with these. Still puzzled why the BDC on the 50.

Turrets don’t have the clickiest clicks but I wouldn’t go so far as to say mushy.

You aren't the only one to describe the clicks as less than "clicky"...

Vortex HD LHT

There are more questions about that rifle than the scope in that post.

www.rokslide.com

don't like the windage clicks they are VERY soft, you almost can't feel them. But I don't think Vortex designed it to dial in windage.

The elevation turret clicks feel a little mushy but usable.

I don't own one, haven't seen one, but I'm just going to take a wild guess that Vortex took the zero stop, a capped windage, and the Razor name, slapped it on some glass, marketed it to hunters, and forgot (or completely ignored) that soft elevation clicks would be a deal breaker?

I just don't get it Vortex. I know someone from your company is reading this. So why? Why not do this the right way?

 

[wade2big]

You aren't the only one to describe the clicks as less than "clicky"...

Vortex HD LHT

There are more questions about that rifle than the scope in that post.

www.rokslide.com

I don't own one, haven't seen one, but I'm just going to take a wild guess that Vortex took the zero stop, a capped windage, and the Razor name, slapped it on some glass, marketed it to hunters, and forgot (or completely ignored) that soft elevation clicks would be a deal breaker?

I just don't get it Vortex. I know someone from your company is reading this. So why? Why not do this the right way?

If it were a target scope or tactical scope I would agree. I like positive turret feel on them. On a hunting scope where dialing wouldn't be used all day everyday it seems like less of an issue. Its a non-issue to me unless the turrets have no detent at all. That would suck. That being said, you would never hear me asking for less positive turrets.

I would like to get my hands on one and make sure it tracks and holds zero. That would be whats most important for me.

 

[DangerRanger]

You aren't the only one to describe the clicks as less than "clicky"...

Vortex HD LHT

There are more questions about that rifle than the scope in that post.

www.rokslide.com

I don't own one, haven't seen one, but I'm just going to take a wild guess

So why? Why not do this the right way?

Lol Come on man

 

[D2junky]

They’re tactile enough to be distinctive. They aren’t target scopes that are going to get dialed a ton for me so I can live with them just fine.
Reliability will be the key for me. If they don’t track reliably I don’t care what they weigh they’ll go down the road. Period.

 

[PFG]

I’m so confused.

We are ok cutting this scope some slack and giving it’s soft clicks a pass (as reported by two separate parties) ? And why? Bc weight? Bc vortex?

Please don’t tell me that soft clicks are ok bc this is a hunting rifle scope and I shouldn’t be clicking all the time. Get outta here with that.

 

[DangerRanger]

I’m so confused.

We are ok cutting this scope some slack and giving it’s soft clicks a pass (as reported by two separate parties) ? And why? Bc weight? Bc vortex?

Please don’t tell me that soft clicks are ok bc this is a hunting rifle scope and I shouldn’t be clicking all the time. Get outta here with that.

Y’all got probs.

If you’re talking about my response I did not mean to leave the clicks part in my quote.

it was about the last part.

As far as click feel of course I want it to be great. I want everything to be great, but it’s a sub 1k$ scope so it’s not going to be perfect. I take a lot of click feel talk to be subjective until I feel it myself.

 

[D2junky]

I really don’t give a furry rats ass how they feel to be honest.

The windage is as good or better than my LRHS/LRTS.

Elevation is just fine as well. Turret feel is a hard thing to convey. Feels more positive than a Super Chicken but not Kahles 318i level at the other end of the spectrum.

It’s a sub 1k sfp aiming device aimed at the hunting crowd that will dial a longer shot. If it proves reliable it’ll be great.

 

[PFG]

Feels more positive than a Super Chicken

Ok. Thats good news. I consider the SS to be the "meh" click. It's there. But its not click-lock-click-lock by any stretch. If this is better, then that's good news.

Of course, it could vary scope to scope. And that wouldn't be the first scope to have some variability across the line.

 

[koshkin]

The 3-15x44 seems to be heading my way. 3-15x50 will get here later. I suspect that the clicks on this scope are perfectly serviceable if my guess on the turret design is correct. It is not Tangent Theta, but it should be quite reasonable.

ILya

 

[Birddog6424]

I’m so confused.

We are ok cutting this scope some slack and giving it’s soft clicks a pass (as reported by two separate parties) ? And why? Bc weight? Bc vortex?

Please don’t tell me that soft clicks are ok bc this is a hunting rifle scope and I shouldn’t be clicking all the time. Get outta here with that.

Haha, I have to admit, by the time I got to your post I was thinking the same thing..

It's not like the Hide to give an optic a pass on issues like these. Maybe it's a new era? A kinder, gentler Sniper's Hide?

 

[Tyler Kemp]

I'll give my honest opinion on the turrets when they come in.

I'd rather money go into glass than turrets for a hunting optic. Haven't felt anything, however my opinion is there are places to make compromises, rather than a 2k hunting optic.

 

[samson7x]

Just got mine. The turrets really aren’t that bad on my sample. They aren’t as good as my AMG but that’s to be expected at this price point but better than SWFA as stated earlier. They are distinct and tactile and just audible enough. Very serviceable.

 

[762 ULTRAMAGA]

Just got mine. The turrets really aren’t that bad on my sample. They aren’t as good as my AMG but that’s to be expected at this price point but better than SWFA as stated earlier. They are distinct and tactile and just audible enough. Very serviceable.

Pretty Please do a tall target test and post your results?

 

[Bravo6]

Any more reviews on these? Getting mine in tomorrow!

 

[ICU22250]

Wonder how these would compare to the Athlon Midas Tac 5-25? Serious question, I'm looking for another bargain optic.. I am thinking about contacting Doug at camera land about the Midas Tac...

 

[DangerRanger]

Wonder how these would compare to the Athlon Midas Tac 5-25? Serious question, I'm looking for another bargain optic.. I am thinking about contacting Doug at camera land about the Midas Tac...

Idk how you’d really compare them they are wildly different.

 

[ICU22250]

Idk how you’d really compare them they are wildly different.

What's the price point on this Hunting vortex? I guess it's more comparable to the PST Gen 2 5-25..

 

[Twentyguns]

I received mine Wednesday. I bought the 50MM mrad thinking I'd rather have the bigger objective and the extra ounce and a half. So far, I really like it. First impressions were good. Once the ocular ring is focused and locked, the reticle is crisp. Finish is nice. Will see how it holds up with field abuse. Clicks are okay - but on the mushy side, even next to my gen 1 PST but workable I think. I haven't taken the elevation cap off yet to see if there is a way to address that but not a show stopper. Locking elevation mechanism is sweet. Simple and worry free so far.

Mounted it up to a 7mm with some Talley 20MOA base/rings. Feels solid and pretty light - think 20 and change oz. Medium hight rings give it maybe just shy of 1/4" barrel clearance, I hope to be enough to put see through caps on.

Reticle - well, for what I do - even without the illumination I think its perfect. I really like the reticle especially. The center dot could be half the size it is and I'd like it more but realistically, I think its a good size where its perfectly functional with and without the illumination. Dialed down, it gives you the impression that the center dot is getting smaller, and just testing it out in darkness and a couple dust viewing tests, if it appears usable. Also left facing illumination button - makes it quick to turn on and an easy adjust on brightness.

2nd FP is fine for me as I always range with my Leicas any way. And I'll test drop on reticle once at the range to see if the 200 yard zero will be best. Maybe if I switch to the 30.06 it will be better suited. May try that.

I need to really to do a detailed eval of the glass but just doing some quick tests, could read 1" text at 410 yards and the parallax seems easy to get right. Center glass is super once adjusted. I need to work through that. Outside of the business part, center view, - I see some things that aren't all that good looking (little blurry as you move out but can't comment fully until I go through it.

The bigger things like tracking, repeatability, etc will come at the range. Other than some blurriness as you move out towards the edge, I think it will be good for my 06 or 300 WSM. So far so good. Will report back on glass once I take a more controlled look. I've never looked through a razor or amg so not sure how it will compare. I'll go through the install, will put in the zero stop and test at the range next. So far, so good.

 

[garygagax]

The quality of this scope is amazing. It is the kind of scope that turns a shooter to its best ability overnight. I wish to own one someday soon, perhaps my shooting skill will improve drastically.

 

[Bravo6]

I'm hunting with this Vortex LHT, it is a little to bright of a dot to use in complete darkness while hunting hogs at night, but it is such a nice, crisp scope!

 

[Twentyguns]

Did sight in Sunday morning. Easy groups with proven load. 1" @ 200 yards. Probably need to replace barrel on 7mm long term but happy with groups at the moment off the hood of the truck. Dialed it in at 100 and then moved to 200 after installing zerostop. Barrel is light contour and heats up fast. Have it mounted with Talley integral base and rings with built in 20 MOA. Need to check elevation range and tracking at distance but appears to be a clean setup. I don't do anything at night but in low light, the lowest brightness setting on the scope was fine. Didn't light up the tube for me and dot is fine enough for targeting. Parallax worked well when used. Field of view seemed okay. I did shoot a bit at 15 which I'd never do in the field. Always hunt on 6 power and drop down when in timber. Happy with it so far.

 

[Vicko]

Anyone ran something like a PardNV007 night vision attachment on one..? Thinking it could be a good combo for what I’m looking for (plenty of night shooting at foxes as well as day shooting for larger targets).

 

[CrabsandFootball]

Its absolutely mind boggling that they are still making SFP scopes. All they had to do was make a lightweight hunting scope with features like FFP, mil based reticle, capped turrets (preferably with tree), illumination and good glass.

If they made this in FFP they would have sold ALOT more. As such, the LRHS/LRTS is still a better choice for a hunter.

 

[Magnett]

If you were hunting the dark timber for up close Elk you would be a lot better off with SFP!

 

[beetroot]

If you were hunting the dark timber for up close Elk you would be a lot better off with SFP!

Oh you've done it now........

 

[Magnett]

 

[CrabsandFootball]

If you were hunting the dark timber for up close Elk you would be a lot better off with SFP!

If I was hunting in dark timber for elk I would be using my Bow.

 

[jd65]

If I was hunting in dark timber for elk I would be using my Bow.

Is your bow FFP or SFP?

 

[kswaterfowl]

Its absolutely mind boggling that they are still making SFP scopes. All they had to do was make a lightweight hunting scope with features like FFP, mil based reticle, capped turrets (preferably with tree), illumination and good glass.

If they made this in FFP they would have sold ALOT more. As such, the LRHS/LRTS is still a better choice for a hunter.

I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you. I much prefer sfp for my calling rifles, where my shots could be anywhere from 20 yards to 400 yards.

 

[CrabsandFootball]

I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you. I much prefer sfp for my calling rifles, where my shots could be anywhere from 20 yards to 400 yards.

Highly disagree. Too many things to go wrong and one more thing to think about under stress. If your hunting brush then use a LPV.