Rifle Scopes Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

[Armed Ferret]

Was about to buy a vortex scope via their .mil discount on the promotive DoD community, and to my surprise it's gone.

Pretty unfortunate; guess I'll go with a different company. Just a heads-up for other active fellas who were hoping to get a discount from them; you're better off sticking with Leupold, Nightforce, or USO.

 

[KNIGHT11B4]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

I noticed this as well last week. It wouldnt suprise me if they just dropped from Promotive, thay may still have a mil discount. Ive talked to a few companies who have said that Promotive is not a easy system to work with. It ends of being more of a headache for them.

 

[Armed Ferret]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

All the companies in the community; they're the only ones to drop out? Smell test--it dont pass.

Fuck em.

 

[oneshot.onehit]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

Try contacting Vortex first before assuming things.

It almost makes you sound as if you’re looking for a handout versus a well appreciated discount on a product you trust in.

I would try contacting them

 

[socalsheepdog]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

They really didn't offer their best on Promotive anyways.

 

[Guns4570]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

I haven't bought a Vortex yet..but I may soon. However, I do get tired of people posting crap w/o verifying facts on the Internet and that includes the Hide. Get bonafide proof of a claim before posting it. If they dropped the discount, they may have had a legitimate reason for it. Maybe they need to renew with the community being mentioned. Military discounts are great for those who serve when offered by companies but you should appreciate them, not complain if one disappeared, military discounts are that a discount off wholesale or retail, its not an entitlement program.

 

[71firebird400]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Armed Ferret</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Fuck em. </div></div>


Everyone's a badass on the internet

 

[M25BeastShooter]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

Liberty Optics offers a Military discount on their Vortex scopes. I ordered a PST Viper back in July and while I'm waiting for the second release of the units after the initial upgrades I expect delivery in January. Scott at Liberty gave me great deal, better than what I would have gotten from Promotive.

 

[gunnut284]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

Check with Liberty Optics, Scott can hook you up.

 

[AUJohn]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

I wouldn't sulk because a company can't afford to offer a discount. I wouldn't EXPECT to get a discount either.
Nice if they do but if not attacking them over it is unreasonable.

 

[broke_again]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

So what if they have stopped offering a discount? It makes more sense to go with a company that will stand behind their product.

 

[stefan73]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

While a discount is nice it is not a determination of the companies product, its staff or its service! Non of us "deserve" a discount! Non of us joined for a discount and non of us "deserve" a discount! We are not in the military for handouts or anything else! If you are I suggest you re-evaluate why you joined and/or finish your service and ETS.

Now, if someone would contact Vortex to check with them maybe they do and maybe they don't. We do not have the facts and either way, yes or no does not make them communists!! They have mouths to feed also. So what a company does to survive in hard times like these is sometimes necessary.

Just my .02 on this.

 

[neeley205]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

If you don't know why, don't knock em too bad.
Maybe the pre unit production cost has jumped and they don't want to raise prices but can no longer offer a discount. .
Maybe they had to eat a huge shit sandwich for the "upgrades" on the scopes people are waiting on. . . .
Maybe they still offer a discount but just through another source. . Or some other REASONABLE circumstance.

We don't know because , well. . . . .we don't know. But the "great scope for the price" is a hard market to fill. And companies can usually only fill that gap by cutting profit.
I understand current service members appreciating a discount, but expecting one is not really acceptable. It wasn't very long ago that the every company under the sun offering mil/leo discounts started. And already it seems to be "expected" during a time when our small and mid-sized buisnesses are struggleing to keep afloat and not lay off good employees because they cannot afford them.

 

[popeye089]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nly205</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't know why, don't knock em too bad.
Maybe the pre unit production cost has jumped and they don't want to raise prices but can no longer offer a discount. .
Maybe they had to eat a huge shit sandwich for the "upgrades" on the scopes people are waiting on. . . .
Maybe they still offer a discount but just through another source. . Or some other REASONABLE circumstance.

We don't know because , well. . . . .we don't know. But the "great scope for the price" is a hard market to fill. And companies can usually only fill that gap by cutting profit.
I understand current service members appreciating a discount, but expecting one is not really acceptable. It wasn't very long ago that the every company under the sun offering mil/leo discounts started. And already it seems to be "expected" during a time when our small and mid-sized buisnesses are struggleing to keep afloat and not lay off good employees because they cannot afford them.
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Call me a douche bag, wtvr but like so many soldiers/leo I take my business and my steady paychecks to a business and a company that offers mil/leo discounts. I stopped shoping at cabelas here in kc till they offered one again. Like a couple guys here I went to promotive to buy a vortex and saw they were gone. You figure just here alone they lost 3 sales. So what saves a company more money? Not offering dicounts and losing multiple sales to X amount of patriotic consumers or offering a discount and getting those word of mouth sales?

 

[Oddball Six]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: popeye089</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nly205</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't know why, don't knock em too bad.
Maybe the pre unit production cost has jumped and they don't want to raise prices but can no longer offer a discount. .
Maybe they had to eat a huge shit sandwich for the "upgrades" on the scopes people are waiting on. . . .
Maybe they still offer a discount but just through another source. . Or some other REASONABLE circumstance.

We don't know because , well. . . . .we don't know. But the "great scope for the price" is a hard market to fill. And companies can usually only fill that gap by cutting profit.
I understand current service members appreciating a discount, but expecting one is not really acceptable. It wasn't very long ago that the every company under the sun offering mil/leo discounts started. And already it seems to be "expected" during a time when our small and mid-sized buisnesses are struggleing to keep afloat and not lay off good employees because they cannot afford them.
</div></div>

Call me a douche bag, wtvr but like so many soldiers/leo I take my business and my steady paychecks to a business and a company that offers mil/leo discounts. I stopped shoping at cabelas here in kc till they offered one again. Like a couple guys here I went to promotive to buy a vortex and saw they were gone. You figure just here alone they lost 3 sales. So what saves a company more money? Not offering dicounts and losing multiple sales to X amount of patriotic consumers or offering a discount and getting those word of mouth sales? </div></div>

Douche bag.

(Hey, you said to!)

Go ahead, take your business elsewhere over a situation that you don't even know exists or not, let alone the reason why. That seems like a perfectly reasonable reaction to a situation which you aren't even sure exists.

While I am all about making sure our LE and military are taken care of, those affected need be careful about coming off as sounding as if they feel they are somehow "entitled" to a discount.

Maybe it could be as simple as they dont have product yet so they decided to stop piling up pre-orders until they do through one of the few channels they directly control?

Maybe on thier side, they take care of MIL/LE orders FIRST in the queue and therefore are concerned that if they continue to build orders in that channel, commercial orders may suffer and they fully intend to resume when they have product in hand?

Thats just it -- we don't know. Until you do, I think a lot of folks need to shut their pie holes about their expected LE/MIL discounts (without which they will whine and bitch apparently and not otherwise consider a product or a manufacturer) and also realize that local outlets will usually offer stronger LE/MIL pricing than often the manufacturer does.

-- OR wait a little bit. Ask some questions. If vortex' position is "screw you guys" maybe your wrath is warranted. It may be that they want to manage that channel in other ways and are still looking very hard to support you guys but temporarily had to halt or pull a discount through ONE channel for some reason.

 

[EricCartmann]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefan73</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While a discount is nice it is not a determination of the companies product, its staff or its service! Non of us "deserve" a discount! Non of us joined for a discount and non of us "deserve" a discount! We are not in the military for handouts or anything else! If you are I suggest you re-evaluate why you joined and/or finish your service and ETS.

Now, if someone would contact Vortex to check with them maybe they do and maybe they don't. We do not have the facts and either way, yes or no does not make them communists!! They have mouths to feed also. So what a company does to survive in hard times like these is sometimes necessary.

Just my .02 on this.

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Truth!

Problem is the world does not see it the same as you and I do. We have become a country of entitlements. "I deserve this, I deserve that"

 

[Chiller]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Armed Ferret</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All the companies in the community; they're the only ones to drop out? Smell test--it dont pass.

Fuck em. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: popeye089</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nly205</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't know why, don't knock em too bad.
Maybe the pre unit production cost has jumped and they don't want to raise prices but can no longer offer a discount. .
Maybe they had to eat a huge shit sandwich for the "upgrades" on the scopes people are waiting on. . . .
Maybe they still offer a discount but just through another source. . Or some other REASONABLE circumstance.

We don't know because , well. . . . .we don't know. But the "great scope for the price" is a hard market to fill. And companies can usually only fill that gap by cutting profit.
I understand current service members appreciating a discount, but expecting one is not really acceptable. It wasn't very long ago that the every company under the sun offering mil/leo discounts started. And already it seems to be "expected" during a time when our small and mid-sized buisnesses are struggleing to keep afloat and not lay off good employees because they cannot afford them.
</div></div>

Call me a douche bag, wtvr but like so many soldiers/leo I take my business and my steady paychecks to a business and a company that offers mil/leo discounts. I stopped shoping at cabelas here in kc till they offered one again. Like a couple guys here I went to promotive to buy a vortex and saw they were gone. You figure just here alone they lost 3 sales. So what saves a company more money? Not offering dicounts and losing multiple sales to X amount of patriotic consumers or offering a discount and getting those word of mouth sales? </div></div>

Call me silly and before I made such hasty remarks and used your “jump to conclusions” mat, a phone call might just be warranted.

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[KNIGHT11B4]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

Exactly Chiller!

As I stated before, Promotive is a hard system to work with. Just because they no longer work with Promotive, does not mean they no longer offer a mil/leo discount. Lets not throw stones yet, a phone call will answer questions when they open.

 

[ubet]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

You know, you are right fuck em, Im mad cause they dont offer a discount to people with brown hair and two dogs. Fuck em. (rolling my eyes)

Op, did you ever try calling someone else that carries their products to see if they still offer a mil discount. Or did you go to one site, see its not offered, then immediatly come to the hide and start bashing a company that actualy comes on to this site, responds to customers regarding their product and have great customer service? Did you get ahold of cstactical, or liberty optics to see what they offer?

I am so effing tired of this entitlement attitude, that people are entitled to this or that. You are entitled to breathe air and die, in life, thats the only two things you are entitled to.

 

[1812]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

If a company doesn't offer a damn MIL/LEO discount they have their reasons and its no reflection on their patriotism or anything else. When some of you people have run your own business then you can tell these folks how they ought to run theirs.

I've been in the military for 13 years now, and I can tell you I am entitled to NOTHING with respect to discounts. I generally don't even ask about such discounts. There are plenty of good companies out there that simply can't afford it, particularly in todays economy.

If you're only shopping at joints that offer said discounts you're really shopping from a shallow pool...

Not everyone who claims to cater to the military is worth a fuck, either...

 

[popeye089]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Armed Ferret</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All the companies in the community; they're the only ones to drop out? Smell test--it dont pass.

Fuck em. </div></div>



I completely agree that I do not, myself feel entitled to anything. Nor did I ever say so. I simply stated that I support the companies that offer these discounts. No more no less. That being said the comment above , sorry to piss you off, comes off as being completely unproffesional and unsoldier like. Remember we serve our country because it is an honor, not for a slap on the back and not for a discount. If you, like me choose to support businesses that offer leo/ military discounts, that is our perogative. But do not use language like that in public or a public forum because it gives leo/miltary a bad name across the board.

 

[KNIGHT11B4]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

Call off the dogs.

A simple phone call found that Vortex is simply making some changes. They have removed thir offers with promotive, BUT they will continue to have a discount. They in the future may put more offers on promtive, they are trying to decide whats works well for them.

Either way, Vortex will continue to offer a discount.

Its not hard to get the info you need, but throwing stones and making snap judgements will not get it done.

The thread title should be changed so as to not give the wrong impression about a quality company.

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

We take care of our vets and active military. Always have, always will, we put it in writing in our policies on our website. We are honored to serve those who serve our country.

Scott

 

[Tactical]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

Hey I met up with Vortex guys at 2010 Shot Show, seemed like good enough guys and even offered to extend Mil Discount to me as a lowly contractor. I bet you contact them they probably still give a discount.

I am waiting for the smaller scopes for CQB to 600 yards to be in stock again and plan on getting one.

 

[Scott_at_Vortex]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

Boy, you sure gotta love this internet thing

.


Let me start with a little history on our company. Our owner/President is a Vietnam Vet and god bless his soul as he did 3 tours over in that hell hole. Following in his foot steps one of his sons is on his 3rd deployment over in the desert and just about everyone that works here has either served or has family that has or is. So you can take from that whatever you wish.

As was stated promotive is kind of a hassle and is easily abused, as we found out. So we are in the middle of figuring out what we are going to do regarding mil/leo discounts. For the time being until we get something new started you can call me and I will point you in the right direction.



In short we greatly appreciate all of our service men and women and are more than happy to show our appreciation with discounted prices on our products. After all this is the least we can do.



Scott

 

[Shrike]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: popeye089</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Armed Ferret</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All the companies in the community; they're the only ones to drop out? Smell test--it dont pass.

Fuck em. </div></div>



I completely agree that I do not, myself feel entitled to anything. Nor did I ever say so. I simply stated that I support the companies that offer these discounts. <span style="color: #FF0000">No more no less</span>. That being said the comment above , sorry to piss you off, comes off as being completely unproffesional and unsoldier like. Remember we serve our country because it is an honor, not for a slap on the back and not for a discount. If you, like me choose to support businesses that offer leo/ military discounts, that is our perogative. But do not use language like that in public or a public forum because it gives leo/miltary a bad name across the board. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: popeye089</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Call me a douche bag, wtvr but like so many soldiers/leo I take my business and my steady paychecks to a business and a company that offers mil/leo discounts. I stopped shoping at cabelas here in kc till they offered one again. Like a couple guys here I went to promotive to buy a vortex and saw they were gone. You figure just here alone they lost 3 sales. So what saves a company more money? Not offering dicounts and <span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">losing multiple sales to X amount of patriotic consumers </span></span>or offering a discount and getting those word of mouth sales? </div></div>

Actually, you did say more....you implied that you are entitled to a discount for being a patriotic American. Patriotic Americans shouldn't expect handouts from hard working US businesses. I'm a patriotic American and I pay listed price, so there's your discount. You get to own a scope and guns and ammo...be happy you even have a place to shoot.

 

[NorCal Vu]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scott_at_Vortex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Boy, you sure gotta love this internet thing

.


Let me start with a little history on our company. Our owner/President is a Vietnam Vet and god bless his soul as he did 3 tours over in that hell hole. Following in his foot steps one of his sons is on his 3rd deployment over in the desert and just about everyone that works here has either served or has family that has or is. So you can take from that whatever you wish.

As was stated promotive is kind of a hassle and is easily abused, as we found out. So we are in the middle of figuring out what we are going to do regarding mil/leo discounts. For the time being until we get something new started you can call me and I will point you in the right direction.



In short we greatly appreciate all of our service men and women and are more than happy to show our appreciation with discounted prices on our products. After all this is the least we can do.



Scott </div></div>


Gee...who would of thought that contacting the company in question would of been a lil easier than rat fucking them on the internet prior to getting all the info.....

Might wanna hit them up for the ass hat discount while you are at it.

 

[Tactical]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

And once again the rest of the story ruins the net attacks without cause.

 

[Shrike]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

Internet Justice!!

 

[264win]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

<span style="color: #FF0000"> </span> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vu</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scott_at_Vortex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Boy, you sure gotta love this internet thing

.


Let me start with a little history on our company. Our owner/President is a Vietnam Vet and god bless his soul as he did 3 tours over in that hell hole. Following in his foot steps one of his sons is on his 3rd deployment over in the desert and just about everyone that works here has either served or has family that has or is. So you can take from that whatever you wish.

As was stated promotive is kind of a hassle and is easily abused, as we found out. So we are in the middle of figuring out what we are going to do regarding mil/leo discounts. For the time being until we get something new started you can call me and I will point you in the right direction.



In short we greatly appreciate all of our service men and women and are more than happy to show our appreciation with discounted prices on our products. After all this is the least we can do.



Scott </div></div>


Gee...who would of thought that contacting the company in question would of been a lil easier than rat fucking them on the internet prior to getting all the info.....

<span style="color: #FF0000">[color:#FF0000]Might wanna hit them up for the ass hat discount while you are at it.</span> </div></div>

have to agree here , but still laughin .

 

[Chiller]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

The “mark of the man” will be those that own their mistakes and try to make amends. I am just old fashion and silly that way.

 

[popeye089]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Erik S.</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: popeye089</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Armed Ferret</div><div class="ubbcode-body">All the companies in the community; they're the only ones to drop out? Smell test--it dont pass.

Fuck em. </div></div>



I completely agree that I do not, myself feel entitled to anything. Nor did I ever say so. I simply stated that I support the companies that offer these discounts. <span style="color: #FF0000">No more no less</span>. That being said the comment above , sorry to piss you off, comes off as being completely unproffesional and unsoldier like. Remember we serve our country because it is an honor, not for a slap on the back and not for a discount. If you, like me choose to support businesses that offer leo/ military discounts, that is our perogative. But do not use language like that in public or a public forum because it gives leo/miltary a bad name across the board. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: popeye089</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Call me a douche bag, wtvr but like so many soldiers/leo I take my business and my steady paychecks to a business and a company that offers mil/leo discounts. I stopped shoping at cabelas here in kc till they offered one again. Like a couple guys here I went to promotive to buy a vortex and saw they were gone. You figure just here alone they lost 3 sales. So what saves a company more money? Not offering dicounts and <span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">losing multiple sales to X amount of patriotic consumers </span></span>or offering a discount and getting those word of mouth sales? </div></div>

Actually, you did say more....you implied that you are entitled to a discount for being a patriotic American. Patriotic Americans shouldn't expect handouts from hard working US businesses. I'm a patriotic American and I pay listed price, so there's your discount. You get to own a scope and guns and ammo...be happy you even have a place to shoot.

</div></div>

So you're mad because.......So what. I never implied anything I simply stated that I was a patriotic consumer because I like so many other young men and women serve this country by risking our lives, those of us that do, go through undescribable pain, heartache, loss, horrors, and ridicule simply because we put a uniform on day in and day out. And yes I have a place to shoot and guns and ammo but all because before me many more put on their uniform and didn't just write about patriotism but fought and died for it. All i said is that I support companies that do. I am sorry you pay list price, but don't get angry because I support those that offer it. I don't ridicule you for where you shop or what you buy so why do it to me?

 

[Oddball Six]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vu</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Gee...who would of thought that contacting the company in question would of been a lil easier than rat fucking them on the internet prior to getting all the info.....

Might wanna hit them up for the ass hat discount while you are at it.</div></div>

I laughed so hard on this one soda came dribbling down my face.

Fucking A on this one.

 

[-=boone=-]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

<span style="font-weight: bold"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A note for those people who like to bash businesses on public forums. I politely and professionally pmed SWFA here on the Hide and explained my problem. A very fast courteous professional response came back from SWFA eager to fix the problem. Imagine that, <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: #CC0000">you get more with sugar than you do with vinegar</span></span>. </div></div></span>

You should have read my advice before posting.

 

[Rob01]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

A simple call would have worked better than shit talking a good company.

 

[stefan73]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vu</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scott_at_Vortex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Boy, you sure gotta love this internet thing

.


Let me start with a little history on our company. Our owner/President is a Vietnam Vet and god bless his soul as he did 3 tours over in that hell hole. Following in his foot steps one of his sons is on his 3rd deployment over in the desert and just about everyone that works here has either served or has family that has or is. So you can take from that whatever you wish.

As was stated promotive is kind of a hassle and is easily abused, as we found out. So we are in the middle of figuring out what we are going to do regarding mil/leo discounts. For the time being until we get something new started you can call me and I will point you in the right direction.



In short we greatly appreciate all of our service men and women and are more than happy to show our appreciation with discounted prices on our products. After all this is the least we can do.



Scott </div></div>


Gee...who would of thought that contacting the company in question would of been a lil easier than rat fucking them on the internet prior to getting all the info.....

Might wanna hit them up for the ass hat discount while you are at it. </div></div>

This actualy made me laugh!!

 

[stefan73]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discoun

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scott_at_Vortex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Boy, you sure gotta love this internet thing

.


Let me start with a little history on our company. Our owner/President is a Vietnam Vet and god bless his soul as he did 3 tours over in that hell hole. Following in his foot steps one of his sons is on his 3rd deployment over in the desert and just about everyone that works here has either served or has family that has or is. So you can take from that whatever you wish.

As was stated promotive is kind of a hassle and is easily abused, as we found out. So we are in the middle of figuring out what we are going to do regarding mil/leo discounts. For the time being until we get something new started you can call me and I will point you in the right direction.



In short we greatly appreciate all of our service men and women and are more than happy to show our appreciation with discounted prices on our products. After all this is the least we can do.



Scott </div></div>

Thanks Scott!

I am actualy embarrased that fellow soldiers made an issue out of nothing. On a good note QMP is comming back!

 

[McKinneyMike]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

AF you seem to bring a lot crap down on yourself. If i recall correctly you threw a fit about a Brux barrel that did not shoot well for you made a nasty posting on here. I told you to contact Brux directly and see what they would do for you. The funny thing is that even after you bad mouthed them here and probably elsewhere, they took care of you anyway!
Now that you feel that someone has jilted you by not offering an entitlement, you blow up again. Ever think that it might be time to pick up a telephone before making a complete ass out of yourself? Just saying.......

 

[LibertyOptics]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

Scott @ Vortex,

Thanks for posting on this. I knew Dan was in 'Nam and is of the highest and most noble character. I had no idea what the deal was here, but wanted to corroborate what was said about LO. I didn't want to go beyond that and glad you set things straight.

Hiders,

In terms of the pure character of it's organization and employees, Vortex is very hard to beat, and has been since their inception.

Scott

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: Vortex seems to have dropped their mil discount

i can't speak well enough on scott and the folks at vortex, they have been AWESOME to order from, from military orders, to personal orders. obsolutely top quality people and service. they have earned mine and many others business because of it.

 

[AUJohn]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: popeye089</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

So you're mad because.......So what. I never implied anything I simply stated that I was a patriotic consumer because I like so many other young men and women serve this country by risking our lives, those of us that do, go through undescribable pain, heartache, loss, horrors, and ridicule simply because we put a uniform on day in and day out. And yes I have a place to shoot and guns and ammo but all because before me many more put on their uniform and didn't just write about patriotism but fought and died for it. All i said is that I support companies that do. I am sorry you pay list price, but don't get angry because I support those that offer it. I don't ridicule you for where you shop or what you buy so why do it to me? </div></div>

The "anger" is more about the poor attitude and behaviour

Make me wonder if the guys who went on the attack would buy from a suspect company that gave a dicount over a bloody decent one that does not. From what I have seen it's all about money and not about who you are dealing with. Nothing in that you should be proud of.....

Funny enough, when I bought a Vortex I didn't shop about, I didn't price match, I just contacted a company which EVERYTHING I had seen showed were decent and honest. I bought from them and will continue to do so. Means more to me that I buy from decent guys than save a little bit of cash and deal with whatever dog begs for my money. Might be a point in that for some of you guys....

 

[popeye089]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AUJohn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: popeye089</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

So you're mad because.......So what. I never implied anything I simply stated that I was a patriotic consumer because I like so many other young men and women serve this country by risking our lives, those of us that do, go through undescribable pain, heartache, loss, horrors, and ridicule simply because we put a uniform on day in and day out. And yes I have a place to shoot and guns and ammo but all because before me many more put on their uniform and didn't just write about patriotism but fought and died for it. All i said is that I support companies that do. I am sorry you pay list price, but don't get angry because I support those that offer it. I don't ridicule you for where you shop or what you buy so why do it to me? </div></div>

The "anger" is more about the poor attitude and behaviour

Make me wonder if the guys who went on the attack would buy from a suspect company that gave a dicount over a bloody decent one that does not. From what I have seen it's all about money and not about who you are dealing with. Nothing in that you should be proud of.....

Funny enough, when I bought a Vortex I didn't shop about, I didn't price match, I just contacted a company which EVERYTHING I had seen showed were decent and honest. I bought from them and will continue to do so. Means more to me that I buy from decent guys than save a little bit of cash and deal with whatever dog begs for my money. Might be a point in that for some of you guys.... </div></div>

And on that I completely agree. Nobody here is entitled to any discount and if they do not receive one then they shouldn't act in such an unproffesional manner. Also, I too prefer to buy from reputable long standing supporters of our sport. The great thing is that there are many here, i.e. SWFA, Euro Optics, Liberty and the like. But unlike many that don't have to "bargain shop" many of us do. I'm enlisted with a family, translation= not rich, so in order to get the most bang for my buck I have to "shop around for deals" and try to use every discount or coupon that is available to me. I hope you understand. But to repeat myself, some soldiers do act unproffesional at times and need to remember AMERICA, AMERICANS, AND AMERICAN BUSINESSES OWE US NOTHING. We serve because it is an honor to protect our freedoms and interests. By any business offering us discounts, it is a privelege not a right. Priveleges can be taken away and acting like brats does not equate to good practice

 

[ubet]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Scott_at_Vortex</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Boy, you sure gotta love this internet thing

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Let me start with a little history on our company. Our owner/President is a Vietnam Vet and god bless his soul as he did 3 tours over in that hell hole. Following in his foot steps one of his sons is on his 3rd deployment over in the desert and just about everyone that works here has either served or has family that has or is. So you can take from that whatever you wish.

As was stated promotive is kind of a hassle and is easily abused, as we found out. So we are in the middle of figuring out what we are going to do regarding mil/leo discounts. For the time being until we get something new started you can call me and I will point you in the right direction.



In short we greatly appreciate all of our service men and women and are more than happy to show our appreciation with discounted prices on our products. After all this is the least we can do.



Scott </div></div>

Good on you Vortex, you have my bussines for optics, for along time.

AF, hows it feel to be a fucking asswad?

 

[Armed Ferret]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Armed Ferret</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Fuck em. </div></div>


Everyone's a badass on the internet

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Actually, I'm quite the asshole in real life too.

 

[Armed Ferret]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefan73</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While a discount is nice it is not a determination of the companies product, its staff or its service! Non of us "deserve" a discount! Non of us joined for a discount and non of us "deserve" a discount! We are not in the military for handouts or anything else! If you are I suggest you re-evaluate why you joined and/or finish your service and ETS.
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Excuse me, but when the hell did I say any of that?

Perhaps you ought to reevaluate your analysis skills, because they obviously suck big-time. I could use your tactics and "infer" you're saying a bunch of shit you aren't, but that would only serve to make me look like an asshole. I think you've done enough for the entire thread, thanks.

 

[Armed Ferret]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Op, did you ever try calling someone else that carries their products to see if they still offer a mil discount. Or did you go to one site, see its not offered, then immediatly come to the hide and start bashing a company that actualy comes on to this site, responds to customers regarding their product and have great customer service? Did you get ahold of cstactical, or liberty optics to see what they offer?</div></div>

Actually yes. I called three of the "dealers" listed on Vortex's site. Two of them said Vortex never sent them any product information, but is still apparently listing them as stocking dealers on their site. The third said any discounted orders are handled through Promotive.

Since they removed themselves from Promotive, it would certainly cause a reasonable person to infer that the discount is now void.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am so effing tired of this entitlement attitude, that people are entitled to this or that. You are entitled to breathe air and die, in life, thats the only two things you are entitled to.
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Agreed. Now kindly, using the "quote" function, point out exactly where I said <span style="font-weight: bold">ANYTHING</span> about being entitled to a discount. Go ahead. I'm waiting.

 

[Chiller]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Armed Ferret</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Armed Ferret</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Fuck em. </div></div>


Everyone's a badass on the internet

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Actually, I'm quite the asshole in real life too. </div></div>

Perhaps the most interesting item is that you publically come out and make false accusations. When you are proven to be incorrect you are neither apologetic nor contrite. It speaks to the man's character (my opinion)

 

[Armed Ferret]

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As for the post by mister Vortex, perhaps you'd do well, sir, to make sure (or pass along to the person with the authority to do so) that not only are the listed dealers on your webpage kept up-to-date with information as it changes, but that the lines of communication with them actually exist. Having 2 out of 3 that I contacted not know anything about being dealers was rather shocking. Obviously this isn't necessarily your fault, nor do I blame you for it, but now that the information is there, I trust you'll see to it that the webmaster does his or her job and resolves those issues.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A simple call would have worked better than shit talking a good company.</div></div>

Actually I made three simple calls; the "simple call" to Vortex, attempted seven different days, all during "normal business hours", went unanswered. And I certainly didn't shit-talk any company; I posted that the discount was removed from Promotive, and since I'd been told by one of their dealers AFTER trying unsuccessfully to contact Vortex directly that their discounts were to be handled via Promotive, it stood to reason the discount was gone.

<span style="font-weight: bold">NEVER</span> did I state or insinuate I felt I was entitled to ANYTHING.

<span style="font-weight: bold">NEVER</span> did I say Vortex sucks, or talk down about them in any way, shape, or form.

It's impressive, many of the people claiming <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">I</span></span> was the one jumping to conclusions, actually did so themselves.

The great forum hypocrisy machine. I see it's still alive and well here. Like this place is becoming arfcom lite or something. Unfortunate.

 

[Armed Ferret]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ubet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
AF, hows it feel to be a fucking asswad?</div></div>

Classy. Anything else you'd like to share with the class to show what a big man you are, to insult someone you've never met and know nothing about?

 

[Armed Ferret]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Perhaps the most interesting item is that you publically come out and make false accusations. When you are proven to be incorrect you are neither apologetic nor contrite. It speaks to the man's character (my opinion)</div></div>


What accusation was false? Did you miss the word <span style="font-weight: bold">APPEARS</span> in the thread title? Rhetorical, the answer is obviously yes, or you wouldn't have posted the silly thing you did.