Re: Vortex Viper PST or Nightforce Benchrest?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hydro556</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jlow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think what you said about the Vortex in terms of track record you mentioned are good points, but my understanding is that the first batch of PST had some problem which in my view does weakens the two above points that are PRO for the PST. Not bashing them, just stating facts.
I don’t think you are a NF basher but the problem here is although there are some similarity between the two scopes i.e. their power, they are actually mostly apples and oranges comparison. For example, the PST you are thinking of anyway is the FFP model where as the NXS is a SFP model, neither is good or bad but it depends. If you are a tactical shooter and want to range at any power, the PST is the best. If you are a long range precision shooter, the SFP is a better choice.
Another factor here is the ruggedness of the scope. The NXS is made out of a much thicker body designed to take more punishment i.e. what one might run across in the field. The PST does not have this – you can clearly see this if you look at their weight. Now this can work against you if you want a light hunting rifle, but…. There are also other things which are not so obvious such as the relative quality of the glass, precision of the dials and their repeatability, there is another thread here further down with a good review of this.
So the term “better” is difficult because it can be affected by an individual’s needs. Let me make a better example. For example, if you take a $1M dollar exotic sports car and compare it to a $20K pickup, in absolute terms in quality, the sports car of course beats the pickup. However, if you need the car to move dirt on a daily basis, the pickup is hands down a “better” car. The same applies to comparing the NXS and PST although not quite to the same extreme degree.
I want a scope build of better than average quality (notice I did not say absolute best, since I know I cannot afford it). It has to be rugged and take punishment and keep on ticking for 20-30 years since this would be a buy once/cry once scope for me. I want a scope with above quality glass and associated mechanical parts. With these criteria in mind, to me the NSX wins hands down.
This in no way means I do not think the PST is possibly one of the best scope you can buy at the $800 price point.
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I was going to go through addressing each point, but I gave up.
Just a lot of silly contained within a relatively small space here bro.
In a year, this will no longer be a debate.
ETA- When I hear comments about the turrets, it really boggles my mind. Because, being straight up objective, I can say that the turrets on the PST are likely what have impressed me most. They give up exactly nothing, in my opinion, to any scope I have ever owned. They are perfect. So are the turrets on Schmidt PMII's, but the PST is $850.
I never would have thought that "turret feel" could be a subjective issue, like glass, but fuck, maybe they are. </div></div>
OK, enough time and effort wasted, and I can see why you describe yourself as "General Nuisance"!LOL!
