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Vudoo barrel cleaning
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I run a couple dry cotton patches or felt pellets own the bore after shooting. After 500 or so rounds I'll soak the chamber and throat with BoreTech Eliminator and give it a light scrub with a nylon bore brush to minimize the carbon ring issue, then run a few patches with Eliminator down the bore and let it sit 15 minutes or so and run dry patches until spotless which is usually 3-5 patches.
My Ace barrel takes about 20-30 rounds on a fresh clean bore to stabilize accuracy, about 10-15 if the bore was only dry patched. I've talked to too many Benchrest rimfire shooters that go 100's to a 1,000 rounds or more before cleaning. Hard to accept, but if the accuracy isn't dropping off why try to fix it?
Another thing I've found is I or the ammo are usually the reason the accuracy is questionable.
If you want to clean frequently use top quality rods, deburred jags, and a bore guide to insure you don't do more harm than good.
My Ace barrel takes about 20-30 rounds on a fresh clean bore to stabilize accuracy, about 10-15 if the bore was only dry patched. I've talked to too many Benchrest rimfire shooters that go 100's to a 1,000 rounds or more before cleaning. Hard to accept, but if the accuracy isn't dropping off why try to fix it?
Another thing I've found is I or the ammo are usually the reason the accuracy is questionable.
If you want to clean frequently use top quality rods, deburred jags, and a bore guide to insure you don't do more harm than good.
VFG pellets after every match or practice. So maybe every 150-200 rounds. One of my F-Class trainers has a Lilja titebore barrel. I start to get crazy fliers after the 100-150 round point. After I started cleaning often, they went away.
Rimfires are very different animals than centerfires.
Rimfires are very different animals than centerfires.
My Ace barrel takes about 20-30 rounds on a fresh clean bore to stabilize accuracy, about 10-15 if the bore was only dry patched. I've talked to too many Benchrest rimfire shooters that go 100's to a 1,000 rounds or more before cleaning. Hard to accept, but if the accuracy isn't dropping off why try to fix it?
If you want to clean frequently use top quality rods, deburred jags, and a bore guide to insure you don't do more harm than good.
With high quality match grade bbls, cleaning is usually easier. The bore is smoother and often polished. I usually use only solvent and patches unless I have shot many, many rds. Generally I agree 100% with your cleaning technique. Coated rods, clean from the breech to the muzzle, a rod guide is a must. No steel jags. Use brass/bronze jags and nylon brushes. It is easy to do more harm than good if you are not careful but the better your rifle shoots to start with, the more important it becomes to take care of each little variable in accuracy and cleaning the bore is one of them. My old $50 Ithaca single shot that I had as a kid with iron sights never showed signs of losing accuracy due to a dirty bore and I shot thousands of rds thru it growing up and never cleaned the bore. But, it had iron sights, I was using field grade ammo and shooting off hand most of the time and was lucky to hit tgt the size of a hub cap at 50-100y. With that level of basic precision, I never noticed the small variation from the dirty bore.
The only area we disagree on is the benchrest shooter practices. I sometimes shoot BR but am not really a BR shooter. My club has about 10 national class BR shooters who are members and regular competitors in our local matches. I don't know any of them who do not run a couple of wet and a couple of dry patches between each relay. That is usually every 25-35 rds counting sighters.
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ive shot 7500 rounds of sk pistol through my vudoo and have not cleaned the barrel...i keep the action bolt and barrel face clean and dont worry about the barrel unless i get odd flyers or something.
I shoot bencherest, tactical and ELR with my Vudoo Ace barrel. I start to see occasional flyers (and I really mean something other that stacked shots) after about 500'ish rounds. I shoot Center X and Tenex depending on what I'm shooting. I use VFG pellets and BoreTech Eliminator, 1 wet and 2 dry. After that maybe every 3 months of so I'll give the chamber and next few inches a little love with a nylon brush. The rifle cleans super easy in just a few minutes.
I reread my post and my comment "talked to too many" didn't mean the majority, basically it meant enough for me to question the norm in benchrest shooting which appears to be a relatively thorough cleaning after each match or practice session.
For the most part, discussing the best barrel cleaning methods on the internet is as conclusive as discussing what is the best oil for our vehicles motor, transmission, and differential..... Never a conclusive winner and numerous reasonable opinions.
I use a 17 cal Dewey rod and VFG felts (on a modified 17cal jag to aid in getting past the ejector) and a Vudoo bore guide. I never brush, barring any odd accuracy drops that I cant explain. I used and have used with good success Bore Tech Eliminator, their rimfire blend, and now the carbon remover, TM, Butches, Hoppes #9 just to name a few. The trick is to let the solvent work, wet the bore and let it sit several minutes. Here is the Vudoo bore guide, it is one of the nicest I have seen:
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last match we shot there was a stage with 2 KYLs and a hostage KYL...small KYL at 65 hostage at 75 and big KYL at 110...i got 19 outta 20...i missed the small bad guy on the hostage rack because i over doped the wind not wanting to hit the good guy.
we have a match sunday and if i remember ill post back here gotta be coming up on 7800 now...we have a stage out to 315 this match.
I wipe the bore out with a couple of patches wet with Ed's Red (homemade solvent with ATF, kerosene, & acetone), followed by one dry patch, after every range session, whether I shoot 10rds or 200. I've got a couple of jelrod-converted 40X/XBs & three V-22s, and without making notes, there's no easy way to keep track of how many rounds I've fired through each rifle - so I just wipe them out every time I shoot them. Barrels are Benchmark, a couple of Kriegers, a Bartlein, and an ACE - I get a couple of shots out of the group when shooting cold, clean bores, then everything settles down nicely. Do the same with the factory bbl on my Anschutz 2011, with the same results. I have brushed bores when I noticed anything out of the usual while pushing the 2nd wet patch through the bore, but it doesn't happen often.
I use a 50:50 blend of Hoppes #9 and Kroil for my rimfires. Two wet patches with about 10 minutes wait on each to soak. Since I clean the bores almost every outing a couple of dry patches and I am done most of the time. If I have been shooting copper clad bullets out of the hunting rifles I might spend a little more time. Once in a blue moon, I will run a nylon brush down the bore soaked in the same snake oil but that is a rare event. If two wet patches are not allowing the 2nd dry to come out clean, I will repeat the process. The hunting rifles don't get shown as much love. They get zeroed for the chosen ammo each season and then detailed cleaned and then re-fouled with about 5-10 rds. From that point on, I usually do not clean them until season is over or I if I decide to swap ammo. I usually hunt with std velocity tgt ammo but sometimes I do use other hunting HP ammo such as the stuff from CCI if that particular rifle with shoot well with it. I would rather have a clean hit with a Lapua CX std vel rd than a clear miss from a CCI Stinger. Since I am mostly hunting squirrels or the occasional cat, I need to be able to hit a small tgt at 50-100y. Coated Dewey rods always. Brass jags, cotton patches.
Can you share more info on the modified 17 cal jag?I use a 17 cal Dewey rod and VFG felts (on a modified 17cal jag to aid in getting past the ejector) and a Vudoo bore guide. I never brush, barring any odd accuracy drops that I cant explain. I used and have used with good success Bore Tech Eliminator, their rimfire blend, and now the carbon remover, TM, Butches, Hoppes #9 just to name a few. The trick is to let the solvent work, wet the bore and let it sit several minutes. Here is the Vudoo bore guide, it is one of the nicest I have seen:
I just turned the raised rings on it down enough so I could slip a felt over it. Basically chuck it up in a drill and use sand paper really carefully checking often. It is about a 45 second job...
