It's been about 2yrs; best I remember, I sent mine out to Lapua in Mesa in the original foam padded cardboard box that VGW shipped it to me in.
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Vudoo Gun Works V-22 Rimfire Bolt Action
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The box the barreled action comes in is pretty good. The foam is pretty dense too. I wouldn't worry about it getting damaged. Besides, it was already shipped to your dealer in that same box and it is still in one piece, correct? Now if you were sending a scope with it, which isn't necessary, I might want a little more protection. You can always contact them and see what they recommend. Personally, I'm going to make the trip, it looks like it could be a fun day. However, I'm only about and hour and a half away from the Marengo test center. I hope you post your data sheets afterwards so we can see the data.
Gjmen22
I would've saved a good 30$ shipping the original foam packaging versus a hard case. Lapua told me not to send it in the cardboard as they have seen some get damaged. Oh well. Rather safe than sorry.
Gjmen22, I drove to the Marengo facility too. I live in Wisconsin, so I stayed the night in a hotel and then drove over the short distance to the facility early in the morning, to meet Luke. I learned a few things from him and we tested my Anchutz 1903 BA. I think you'll like spending the day with him and testing the various lots of ammo. I plan to make the trip again in the fall, after I receive my Vudoo (on order).
Nice shot, dumb question but how did you use Ballistic-X to go multiple group on the same target like that? I have been wondering how for a while.50 and 100yd 6x5’s from tonight both suppressed and unsuppressed. Unsuppressed definitely did better over all, but suppressed is still good enough for the girls I go withDidn’t help I had AR’s blasting next to me in an indoor range
AVG group size unsuppressed 50yd target: 0.74moa with the smallest being 0.27moa
AVG group size unsuppressed 100yd target: 0.78moa with the smallest being 0.48moa
AVG group size suppressed 50yd target: 0.85moa with the smallest being 0.65moa
AVG group size suppressed 100yd target: 1.05moa with the smallest group being 0.71moa.
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Proof carbon fiber 18” barrel
Thunderbeast 22TD for the suppressed shots
Lapua Center X
aiax chassis
ZCO 5-27
Atlas PSR bipod
TT diamond single stage (for now)
You just use the picture output by BallisticX and move to the next target. You have to do them one at a time.
I had USPS deliver a package BEFORE its estimated delivery date WITHOUT the street numbers on the label yesterday. Street, city, and zip code but NO house numbers.
The regular drivers are good. They gave a lot of temp/fill-in people right now that are not so good.
I would do one target and then use the target I just measured to do the second group and so on and so forth.
I tried that but every time I exported it, the image would be shrunk and compressed more. It’s too bad, if it left the image alone then this would be a good hack for multiple groups.
I don't know where to put this response to this topic of rimfire accuracy so i'll put it here and see where it goes. I have been shooting rimfire s for over 60 years. From cans in a field at 10 years old to IHMSA silhouette to squirrels in season. I've read and listened to anyone that wants to talk or write about rimfire shooting and accuracy. Here is what I have come to believe.Early on ammo was better than the guns. Now the guns are better than the ammo. As important as muzzle velocity, ES, SD are this has much more effect on the center fire game. It has less importance to the rimfire game. In rimfire we care mostly about consistency. Which we have very little control over in our ammo. There are some things we do have control over that are measurable. Rim Thickness and Weight. Why is rim thickness important? How many of you have taken a rimfire round apart? I would ask you to take 10 rounds apart and place them on a paper sheet. Dump out the powder and keep the lead bullet and case with the powder. I think you will be surprised to see how little powder is in each case. Now weigh each bullet an notate the weight on the paper. Now weigh each case and notate that beside each case. You will be amazed at how little powder is in each round and see the difference in the bullet weight. Now i'm sure you are wondering where rim thickness comes into play. Well the largest effect of the firing pin igniting the round comes from the primer compound. The estimate of the primers contribution to the total energy is 60-70 %. So you see that round that has a thicker rim has more primer at the point of ignition. You can tell by looking it's not the powder that's important to the total ignition. How close to the advertised weight is your bullet? That weight difference will make more difference than the difference in powder weight. Now the only thing we can control is rim thickness and weight.I rim gauge and weigh all of my match ammo. not my practice ammo. The rim gauge I use is by Raven Eye Custom at Raveneyecustom.com. I just added a Harbor Freight Digital depth gauge. For weight i use a small scale that can measure grains. Rim thickness goes by ammo brand and lot. usually from .034 to .046. If you rim gauge a box of 50 you will get one or two thicknesses for about 70% of the box. segregate those rim thicknesses and use the other to season your barrel after cleaning. After you rim gauge a brick then weigh each round of the same rim thickness and save the predominate quantity as match ammo. Now you have done all you can do that is under your control for consistency. Shoot all the other ammo that didn't make the cut for practice. You will generally see that higher price ammo has more consistency in the areas we are measuring hence the higher price. If you don't want to do all this work for match performance then you can just pay your money an take your chances. Good luck taking your chances with rimfire ammo!
My vudoo made it home today and I got it put together and proceed to shoot 600 rounds through it. Everything thing worked great with the exception of when shooting off a barricade if any pressure gets put on the mag toward the rear from the bag it doesn’t want to feed. Anyone shimmed the back of the mag to counter this?
What chassis/stock is it in? I've had this problem with my MPAs. A small piece of fuzzy velcro on the front edge of the mag well solved the issue.
It’s in a foundation stock with Hawkins bottom metal. It seems like it needs something on the back side, the side closer to the trigger, to keep forward pressure on it. I’ll try some Velcro and see how it works. It runs flawlessly until a bag pushes back on it. Thank you.
You may find it isn't so much the need for forward pressure as it is to keep the mag aligned vertically. If the bag is pushing the mag back, putting the velcro on the trigger side pushes the top forward. So the mag is no longer square in the well. But, YMMV. Try both and see what works.
Ideally I would just be filling the space on the trigger side of the mag to prevent it being pushed back when jammed up against something. I’ll report back how it goes. May try it tonight
Are you running an arca rail? If so, put the area 419 barricade stop on it. You’ll never touch the mag on a bag again.
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Just did a full mag pushed into the bag and a full mag pushed straight into a tank trap with no issues
I did the same as Abby Kat above. Also the MPA chassis have an adjustable Mag Catch available. One more thing, the Aluminum Mags have a different catch location than my polymer ones. Not alot, but enough. Also they are wider than the polymer... 4Certain
What does everybody use for lubrication on their Vudoo bolt assembly's? Do you use a light grease or oil? I use Krieghoff Gun Glide on my CZ bolt which works really good. But I'm guessing there is a lot more play/tolerance in the CZ then the Vudoo.
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I prefer a light coat of grease on the bolt body making sure I hit the back of the lugs.
For years I used Brian Enos Slide Glide for grease on sliding parts and Lubriplate FMO 350 AW Oil for the finer lube points. To me these are the two best petroleum lubrication. In the past 6 months I have started using the FrogLube Paste for grease, FrogLube Extreme for parts that needed more 'flow' and with these, the Frog Lube Super De-greaser. Thus far I have been impressed with how little residue the FrogLube approach accumulates. Used in my 1911's, 2011's, S&W M-41 22 LR. and my Kidd Supergrade 10-22 and Vudoo... So far has been impressive.
I use Brian Enos Slide Glide for grease on sliding parts bolts and slides. It's "Slicker than snot on a door knob!".
I shoot it in my Kidd Supergrade and my Anschuts 64 MPR and it shoots as good as anything at 50 and 100 yards. That's as far as I've shot so far. Waiting on my Vudoo to get here to go out farther.
Nothing. I just wipe it clean before and after use. There's no real friction and it's pretty smooth once it's broken it. I did used to wipe a layer of Mobil 1 on and off, leaving a very small film behind. Oil and grease attract dirt and don't allow it to fall off. If it doesn't need lubrication, don't lubricate it. IMO, most bolt guns require zero lube on the bolt assembly.
^^^ me too.
I forgot to oil my bolt after a deep clean a while back, and the action has been slick and clean. My action is the base melonite with a stainless barrel.
I may spray a small bit of Oneshot dry lube at the bolt lugs tommorow. If I remember!!
I forgot to oil my bolt after a deep clean a while back, and the action has been slick and clean. My action is the base melonite with a stainless barrel.
I may spray a small bit of Oneshot dry lube at the bolt lugs tommorow. If I remember!!
RNailor2 you convinced me. I ordered a rim gauge by Raven Eye Custom at Raveneyecustom.com as you suggested. Will set up my Digital Depth Gauge and see what I come up with. Thank you for your post. While I have shot quite a bit of 22 LR before, it was always much larger targets. Like a Speed Steel Match with pistols and rifles. Beginning to shoot my Vudoo in Tactical PRS type matches changes the requirements. I moved from CCI 40grain Mini Mags to Eley Black Box Match. Now looking at Benchrest as well, it is a really big deal. Thank you for your thoughts. Good info. 4Certain
I too use the C-4 Carbon cleaner from Bore Tech and the new 26" long Stainless Steel Teslong USB borescope from Amazon. A great deal for $80. I have seen the dreaded "Carbon Ring". I now use a Nylon bore brush wrapped with a cotton patch soaked in C-4 carbon cleaner on a short piece of cleaning rod attached to my variable speed cordless drill on slow speed. I soak- spin- soak spin and then use a Patch Worm to clean out the carbon. Repeat till the Teslong shows no carbon ring. I pull the dry Patch Worm through the barrel after each range session and keep an eye on the carbon ring with the Teslong borescope.
Good morning Rimfire Friends. I have recently installed a Harrell's Tuner on my Gen 1 Vudoo V22. I tried a host of brakes and had a 100 yard Brake "shoot off". Ten Shots Each. Eley Black Box Match. One sitting. One rifle. Pics attached.
After discussing this with a very good old time gunsmith, he suggested that my 'shoot off' showed that the barrel was indeed affected by 'harmonics' and a tuner might possibly be a benefit. So after some searching I ordered a Harrell's Rimfire Tuner. (GREAT folks to work with; and great equipment. I used the Hopewell Method for setting my tuner. Pics of the process are attached.
So far I am leaving it on my gun. I shot a target the other day at 259 yards. Small Tennis ball sized rock (or smaller) on a large white flat rock slab. Wore it out. I have not shot a Tactical Match since adding the tuner. But from the practicing I have done, it seems to be shooting quite well. The hard thing about that is the Vudoo shoots quite well all by its self! But I am curious. Has anyone else tried a tuner on your Vudoo? And with what kind of results? Thank you for your thoughts. 4Certain
After discussing this with a very good old time gunsmith, he suggested that my 'shoot off' showed that the barrel was indeed affected by 'harmonics' and a tuner might possibly be a benefit. So after some searching I ordered a Harrell's Rimfire Tuner. (GREAT folks to work with; and great equipment. I used the Hopewell Method for setting my tuner. Pics of the process are attached.
So far I am leaving it on my gun. I shot a target the other day at 259 yards. Small Tennis ball sized rock (or smaller) on a large white flat rock slab. Wore it out. I have not shot a Tactical Match since adding the tuner. But from the practicing I have done, it seems to be shooting quite well. The hard thing about that is the Vudoo shoots quite well all by its self! But I am curious. Has anyone else tried a tuner on your Vudoo? And with what kind of results? Thank you for your thoughts. 4Certain
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I want the best benchrest trigger available for my Vudoo for benchrest shooting. What are your thoughts on this?
Good evening 17Rupert. I use the Bix n Andy Tac Sport 2 stage on my regular Vudoo Bolt Rifle. I absolutely love it. Best trigger I own, and I have some good ones especially on my Air Rifles. In listening to Mike Bush talk, I think the Flavio Vudoo trigger is going to be absolutely wonderful. that is what I have ordered on my Vudoo V22S Single Shot Benchrest rifle.
The Vudoo Flavio Trigger also has the 90 degree sear which allows the bolt to "Relax" in Mike Bush's words. The Bix n Andy trigger is a 60 degree sear and evidently keeps some sort of pressure on the bolt which does not allow it to relax. No big deal on the Repeater. It is a big deal on the Benchrest, assuming I am understanding what they are saying properly... I think I am. I have listened to the videos numerous times. My best guess, is we will not go wrong by following what they are doing. I trust their research, work and decisions. All the Best. 4Certain
Why is a weapon system with a "relaxed bolt" more accurate than a weapon system with an "unrelaxed" bolt, all else being equal?
Perhaps the experiments will be done, V22S accuracy when trigger is Vudoo/Flavio versus v22S accuracy when trigger is the Bix'n Andy two stage benchrest trigger. Certainly the range of pull weights are different.
Perhaps the experiments will be done, V22S accuracy when trigger is Vudoo/Flavio versus v22S accuracy when trigger is the Bix'n Andy two stage benchrest trigger. Certainly the range of pull weights are different.
I did almost the exact same thing RN just about a month after you. Read and read then finally joined- and most importantly ordered. My delivery date is first week of Sept. Just about everything else has been delivered (glass, rings, ammo, etc.). I've enjoyed reading this thread very much and have learned a lot and enjoyed looking at the pics of rifles and targets !
Greg was very helpful and had the answers to all my questions when I placed my order!
Watch the Mike Bush video where he discusses the 90 degree sear. I think it is part of the long series on YouTube.
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