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Vudoo Gun Works V-22 Rimfire Bolt Action

RNailor2 you convinced me. I ordered a rim gauge by Raven Eye Custom at Raveneyecustom.com as you suggested. Will set up my Digital Depth Gauge and see what I come up with. Thank you for your post. While I have shot quite a bit of 22 LR before, it was always much larger targets. Like a Speed Steel Match with pistols and rifles. Beginning to shoot my Vudoo in Tactical PRS type matches changes the requirements. I moved from CCI 40grain Mini Mags to Eley Black Box Match. Now looking at Benchrest as well, it is a really big deal. Thank you for your thoughts. Good info. 4Certain
Hello RNailor. Have you had a chance to test the rim gauge and tested some of the measured ammo batches at the range? Thanks
 
Hello RNailor. Have you had a chance to test the rim gauge and tested some of the measured ammo batches at the range? Thanks
I have been using this gauge for years now and what it does for me is eliminate fliers. I sort by rim thickness and use the predominant rim thickness and weigh that group. I set that predominant group aside and shoot the rest of the same rim thickness as practice ammo. Having already found the the type of ammo that the barrel likes then doing first sort by rim thickness and then by weight it eliminates all of my fliers and vertical dispersions. I am still working with learning the wind components. After doing what I can with vertical dispersions and calming my mind on that I can focus on wind. To many variables strain my mind and keep me from concentrating on one at a time. I have found the weak link in consistency. It’s me. I believe the weak link in Rimfire shooting is not rifles but shooters and ammo. I think ammo makers are seeing their future is in more consistent ammo. My future is in more trigger time.
 
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I have been using this gauge for years now and what it does for me is eliminate fliers. I sort by rim thickness and use the predominant rim thickness and weigh that group. I set that predominant group aside and shoot the rest of the same rim thickness as practice ammo. Having already found the the type of ammo that the barrel likes then doing first sort by rim thickness and then by weight it eliminates all of my fliers and vertical dispersions. I am still working with learning the wind components. After doing what I can with vertical dispersions and calming my mind on that I can focus on wind. To many variables strain my mind and keep me from concentrating on one at a time. I have found the weak link in consistency. It’s me. I believe the weak link in Rimfire shooting is not rifles but shooters and ammo. I think ammo makers are seeing their future is in more consistent ammo. My future is in more trigger time.
Thank you for the information sir! There is no doubt that the 'weak link' is a lot of times ourselves. I was wondering, when measuring the rim thickness if you rotate the cartridge around a quarter turn or so will the measurement remain the same? Also, in your experience what ammo brand has been the most consistent in regards to rim thickness?
 
Hello RNailor. Have you had a chance to test the rim gauge and tested some of the measured ammo batches at the range? Thanks
Thank you RNailor . So far I measured on box of Eley Black Box Match. Most all were quite close. A few were larger. I few were smaller. I have not been able to test the separated rounds to this point.

The Raven Eye Custom Measuring gauge with a Dial gauge is amazingly easy and quick to use. Very little investment and very easy to use.

I am also curious as to how you see the Weight of the Cartridges sorted by rim size should be utilized. One fellow I shoot with that has shot rimfire Benchrest and a number of other rimfire matches for many, many years. Far more experienced than I am. He suggests that the weight sorting is more critical. I am curious what you think about Weight Sorting and how you see that working with the sorting by Rim Thickness. Thank you for your perspective. 4Certain
 
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Thank you for the information sir! There is no doubt that the 'weak link' is a lot of times ourselves. I was wondering, when measuring the rim thickness if you rotate the cartridge around a quarter turn or so will the measurement remain the same? Also, in your experience what ammo brand has been the most consistent in regards to rim thickness?
Usually the more you spend the more rounds you get in the same rim thickness and weight in the same batch. Thus the more of the same rims. I have found that the actual thickness matters less than that you shoot the same rim thickness and weight for consistency. You need to zero your scope for each batch of thickness and weight.
 
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Thank you RNailor . So far I measured on box of Eley Black Box Match. Most all were quite close. A few were larger. I few were smaller. I have not been able to test the separated rounds to this point.

The Raven Eye Custom Measuring gauge with a Dial gauge is amazingly easy and quick to use. Very little investment and very easy to use.

I am also curious as to how you see the Weight of the Cartridges sorted by rim size should be utilized. One fellow I shoot with that has shot rimfire Benchrest and a number of other rimfire matches for many, many years. Far more experienced than I am. He suggests that the weight sorting is more critical. I am curious what you think about Weight Sorting and how you see that working with the sorting by Rim Thickness. Thank you for your perspective. 4Certain
I agree with your friend on the importance of weight over rim thickness. I sort the rim thickness first to narrow down the rounds to weigh as weighing is more tedious. I then save the end result both of rim and weight segregation for matches and train with the same rim thickness but out of the weight group norm.
 
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I agree with your friend on the importance of weight over rim thickness. I sort the rim thickness first to narrow down the rounds to weigh as weighing is more tedious. I then save the end result both of rim and weight segregation for matches and train with the same rim thickness but out of the weight group norm.
Thanks RNailor . That makes good sense. I will give it a go as I am able... 4Certain
 
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I ordered more SK standard from what I thought was a lot I had already tested but it was not what I received. It doesn’t seem to matter.
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I was talking with Greg at Vudoo the other day about how to get my mags to sit correctly in my MPA Comp Chassis. He said the mags need to fit right up against the underside of the action with as little up down slop as the mag catch would allow. Fortunately the MPA Comp has an adjustable mag catch. (I will know more tomorrow when I test it out at our weekly match. )

He also said it was good to put loop velcro patch on the front of the mag well to take up space. I did not have room for the velcro but I did put a slick piece of plastic there with double sided tape. Worked great to help get rid of fore aft movement.

I finally have figured out how to load the mags with less heartburn. I barely slip the next round in and then release the follower so it is pressing up on the round I am loading as I slide it back into place. Helps keep all the rims in order and makes the bullet sit "Proud" with nose up like it is supposed to. Nose down leads to nose dives... We will see how it runs tomorrow in testing before the match and during.

Stay safe and shoot well. 4Certain
 
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I was talking with Greg at Vudoo the other day about how to get my mags to sit correctly in my MPA Comp Chassis. He said the mags need to fit right up against the underside of the action with as little up down slop as the mag catch would allow. Fortunately the MPA Comp has an adjustable mag catch. (I will know more tomorrow when I test it out at our weekly match. )

He also said it was good to put loop velcro patch on the front of the mag well to take up space. I did not have room for the velcro but I did put a slick piece of plastic there with double sided tape. Worked great to help get rid of fore aft movement.

I finally have figured out how to load the mags with less heartburn. I barely slip the next round in and then release the follower so it is pressing up on the round I am loading as I slide it back into place. Helps keep all the rims in order and makes the bullet sit "Proud" with nose up like it is supposed to. Nose down leads to nose dives... We will see how it runs tomorrow in testing before the match and during.

Stay safe and shoot well. 4Certain
Good luck at that match!
 
I finally got the Krieger installed on my V22 this week and got it out to shoot at 50yd. I put 150rd through the barrel, then I pulled a bore snake through it twice before proceeding with the below ammo testing.

Target below was shot from the bench with a bipod and rear bag @ 50yd. It was 93F out, dead calm and 60% humidity. The Kreiger shot really well, shooting better agg than my previous outings with the Benchmark and Green Mountain barrels installed. This lot of SK+ has just hammered in 9 different 22lr barrels with my chamber.

Vudoo V22
20" Kreiger M24 barrel threaded 1/2-28
Chambered by Keystone Accuracy
My 22LR Match Eachus chamber
Bix'N Andy TacSport Pro 2 Stage High Sear
MDT XRS Stock
Athlon Ares ETR 4.5-30 APRS1 FFP
Harris Bipod

Best 10x5: 0.249" AGG - CenterX
Best 6x5: 0.225" SK+
Best Group: 0.066" SK=














 
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I finally got the Krieger installed on my V22 this week and got it out to shoot at 50yd. I put 150rd through the barrel, then I pulled a bore snake through it twice before proceeding with the below ammo testing.

Target below was shot from the bench with a bipod and rear bag @ 50yd. It was 93F out, dead calm and 60% humidity. The Kreiger shot really well, shooting better agg than my previous outings with the Benchmark and Green Mountain barrels installed. This lot of SK+ has just hammered in 9 different 22lr barrels with my chamber.

Vudoo V22
20" Kreiger M24 barrel threaded 1/2-28
Chambered by Keystone Accuracy
My 22LR Match Eachus chamber
Bix'N Andy TacSport Pro 2 Stage High Sear
MDT XRS Stock
Athlon Ares ETR 4.5-30 APRS1 FFP
Harris Bipod

Best 10x5: 0.249" AGG - CenterX
Best 6x5: 0.225" SK+
Best Group: 0.066" SK=















@padom:

I would like to have 1% of the money made on rifles sold because of your marksmanship. Hotel Sierra.
 
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Padom, nice shooting! I think Lapua screwed up and put that lot of SK+ in the wrong boxes. (y) It sure shoots like Midas+. It's good luck that you found such a great lot out of their lower tier ammo. I hope you bought all you could find.
 
Padom, nice shooting! I think Lapua screwed up and put that lot of SK+ in the wrong boxes. (y) It sure shoots like Midas+. It's good luck that you found such a great lot out of their lower tier ammo. I hope you bought all you could find.

Yea its shot great in so many barrels...i bought a few bricks when lot testing many many months ago. It was gone once I knew how good it was....I havs exactly 1 50rd box left...😢😢😢
 
Waiting is part of it even though it’s torture.
Rifles like my AR etc aren’t nearly as much fun to shoot now. I sold my b14r to help fund the Vudoo kinda wish I would have kept it a bit longer. The 10/22 Will have to keep me occupied
 
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Playin' around with a few things today....

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MB
Work of art. I don’t think I’ve ever been so excited on a gun purchase. At what distance are your shooting?
BTW do you have a picture of what color Vudoo Green is? It sounded cool so I picked it for my rifle even though I’d not seen it. I figured it would have to look decent if you were willing to put your name on it. If not I have some Krylon
 
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Work of art. I don’t think I’ve ever been so excited on a gun purchase. At what distance are your shooting?
BTW do you have a picture of what color Vudoo Green is? It sounded cool so I picked it for my rifle even though I’d not seen it. I figured it would have to look decent if you were willing to put your name on it. If not I have some Krylon

Thanks! That was 50 in a really twitchy wind.

I have a picture somewhere, but shoot Greg an email and he can get it to you quickly. The story behind Vudoo Green is, it was an accident that turned out to be a really cool color, so we wrote down how the accident was created and have replicated it quite a lot, hence the birth of Vudoo Green.

MB
 
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I was talking with Greg at Vudoo the other day about how to get my mags to sit correctly in my MPA Comp Chassis. He said the mags need to fit right up against the underside of the action with as little up down slop as the mag catch would allow. Fortunately the MPA Comp has an adjustable mag catch. (I will know more tomorrow when I test it out at our weekly match. )

He also said it was good to put loop velcro patch on the front of the mag well to take up space. I did not have room for the velcro but I did put a slick piece of plastic there with double sided tape. Worked great to help get rid of fore aft movement.

I finally have figured out how to load the mags with less heartburn. I barely slip the next round in and then release the follower so it is pressing up on the round I am loading as I slide it back into place. Helps keep all the rims in order and makes the bullet sit "Proud" with nose up like it is supposed to. Nose down leads to nose dives... We will see how it runs tomorrow in testing before the match and during.

Stay safe and shoot well. 4Certain
The Higher Location of the Mag Catch helped. During the Mini-Palma 45 shots, I only had two shells that did not feed right. That was much better than I had been having. One thing I saw was my mags were still not High and Tight enough. So today I worked on it a while. Now they are "Jam Up - Jelly Tight" against the bottom side of the frame. I did some feeding on my desk. They bullets went in better and easier than I have ever experienced. (Thanks Greg!) This is with the Aluminum mags. The Polymer mags have a little trouble clicking in. But with a little persuasion they stay. I may just touch the little mag catch step with a file to raise it just a smidgeon. But not just yet.... My next match will tell even more. But I am quite excited and hopeful that my feeding issues are almost over. That will improve my scores, I am sure. No more 'nicked' bullets.

I do think I need to order the Eley Followers for my mags based on what Mike Bush said. That will hopefully happen soon.
Stay safe and enjoy the process. 4Certain
 
Just messin’ with ya Dude, I’m taking this rifle to the inaugural BulletPro 150 and was playin’ with ammo.

MB
From my limited experience, it seems trying to find the "Best Shooting Ammo" for a barrel is a Very DEEP Black Hole...
I suppose the best way is pick your favorites or the ones that have worked the best in the past and test, test , test!

But you working on a SECRET Sauce would not be out of character....
4Certain
 
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Rick137

It's not a weapon, it's a gun. Difference is intended target. This is per the NRA Chief Range Safety Officer course curriculum.

Weapons are used to shoot alive targets.
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I have to say, what BS. What is a weapon system called if used for both target shooting and hunting? A gunon or wegun?

However, to be exact it is a rifle. Remember the ditty Marines had to recite for calling a rifle a gun, "This is my rifle, this is my gun, This is for fighting, this is for fun" while marching with their rifle on their shoulder and their gun in their hand.

But to satisfy the NRA call it a firearms system. Why a system? Because a rifle is a barrel, action, bottom metal, trigger and stock/chassis. A FS also has a sighting device, support and ammunition.
 
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