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They sent a new pin and spring last summer. Going by their instructions only for now.What did Vudoo say to fix this issue? I thought light strikes either a strong firing pin spring, or you can adjust how much the firing pin extrudes from the bolt?
I'm not positive, but when I spoke to them on the phone it sounded like they were now doing the "modification" to all new 360s.Jeez all these many little issues I’m reading of late are a bit concerning. I’m over the pond in Australia waiting for the 360 to turn up. Sending a rifle back to America would be a f#$@king nightmare the way things are, to have any of these issues sorted. At $3200 bucks here I’m hoping it’s floorless.
Yeah true probably very few have issues. Hopefully as stated above the ones shipped internationally are sorted. Cheers.I'm not positive, but when I spoke to them on the phone it sounded like they were now doing the "modification" to all new 360s.
I agree with you. Spending 2K on a barreled .22 action here in the states, you want it to be good to go. When I received my barreled action VGW failed to include the trigger pins. I called them, they sent them out "next day shipping" then UPS took a week to deliver them. Then once I got rounds down range I had the ejection issues. Once again, VGW was on it, sent me a prepaid label to ship my bolt, I received it back in less than two weeks. It now works as it should.
The ejection issue I feel is the price you pay when buying products that are new and pushing the envelope. It takes a bit of time to sort out all the kinks. The trigger pins was just an instantance of sloppy QC. That being said, their customer service was on point. I would still have no hesitation to buy from them again. Additionally, I bet you hear more of the issues because people are seeking solutions than you do about the rifles that are operating smoothly. Just my .02.
Evidently, you haven't read through all the Rim-X posts. There have been numerous reports of extractors being 'chipped' when owners tried to chamber rounds that were short-stroked or that came out of the extractor pocket for other reasons and then the shooter tried to force it into the chamber. There was a mention that Zermatt had changed the alloy or temper of the extractor due to this issue. I haven't had an issue with my Rim-X since I removed the pusher and stoned the bottom edge of the hook as per instructed by Zermatt, and it runs very smoothly, but there were problems early on.In a Rimx, you can't close the bolt when a round is in the chamber.
Is it all Eley ammo giving you problems, or just from a particular line/lot/box? My Vudoo handles all brands well, but my B14r has issues with Eley, with that ammo causing a really hard bolt close. So I’m inclined to think there are noticeable dimensional differences between Eley and other ammo.So to follow up on my issue with Eley brass getting stuck in the chamber - that is not even extracting - I have to take a knife to pop the stuck brass out of the chamber - I cleaned everything thoroughly as per VGW instructions - issue is still there.
It shoots Lapua flawlessly - shoots Norma (produced by RWS) flawlessly - but just doesn't want to extract the Eley.
What a bummer.
I thought you actually meant close the bolt. Like, ready to fire.Evidently, you haven't read through all the Rim-X posts. There have been numerous reports of extractors being 'chipped' when owners tried to chamber rounds that were short-stroked or that came out of the extractor pocket for other reasons and then the shooter tried to force it into the chamber. There was a mention that Zermatt had changed the alloy or temper of the extractor due to this issue. I haven't had an issue with my Rim-X since I removed the pusher and stoned the bottom edge of the hook as per instructed by Zermatt, and it runs very smoothly, but there were problems early on.
I've never heard of anyone having a 'chipped' extractor on a V-22/Three-60/V-22S action.
So far I've only been able to test a lot of Eley Match - Im inclined to think the same and have heard this many times that Eley has different dimensions to their brassIs it all Eley ammo giving you problems, or just from a particular line/lot/box? My Vudoo handles all brands well, but my B14r has issues with Eley, with that ammo causing a really hard bolt close. So I’m inclined to think there are noticeable dimensional differences between Eley and other ammo.
Call Vudoo. You may be able to send it in and they can "touch" up the chamber. Exchange the extractor or maybe even a new barrel.So to follow up on my issue with Eley brass getting stuck in the chamber - that is not even extracting - I have to take a knife to pop the stuck brass out of the chamber - I cleaned everything thoroughly as per VGW instructions - issue is still there.
It shoots Lapua flawlessly - shoots Norma (produced by RWS) flawlessly - but just doesn't want to extract the Eley.
What a bummer.
Call Vudoo. You may be able to send it in and they can "touch" up the chamber. Exchange the extractor or maybe even a new barrel.
As I stated before, it sounds like a tight chamber and your brass is expanding enough to get stuck. Or, shoot a good 3,000 rounds and the Eley may start to extract. It's probably like .001" that causing this to happen.
Bartlein commented on that video:
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A lighter weight contour when the barrel gets button rifled (Bartlein Barrels only does single point cut rifling) the stress being put into the blank is much greater. As you turn the contour smaller and smaller in size this can have a negative effect on the bore sizes changing and opening up. When this happens you cannot make the bore size smaller. This is not an issue with single point cut rifling. We don’t see this happening at all. Same can be said about threading the muzzle of the barrel for a muzzle brake or suppressor attachment. On button rifled barrels, threading the muzzle this is a common problem with the bore opening up. The last place you want the bore to open up or go sour on you is right at the muzzle's crown edge. Anything going wrong here has a negative impact on accuracy.
The video link below shows this process happening. The point of the video isn’t to pick on other barrel makers but to suggest to people to make the muzzle threads as large as you can to prevent this from happening. The first barrels where all the bores open up are all button rifled barrels. The last barrels are Bartlein cut rifled barrels. Yes the threads are larger on our barrels but we have made barrels with muzzle threads that measured 5/8” and we turned these down from a blank that started out at 2.280” o.d. and have not scrapped/rejected a single barrel because of it.”
From the bottom of this link
Contour Info | Bartlein Barrels
www.bartleinbarrels.com
Never got those barrels. The part about the barrel expanding when the outside diameter is reduced is absolutely true. But the cure is simple.So then why is it all br matches past and present have been won with button rifled barrels. Why aren't cut rifle barrels competitive in the br world if they're so good. Cut rifling will never compete with button barrels in rimfire. Where are those 20 barrels harper asked to have made when bartlein was challenged on calfees site?
This Eley problem is interesting as I have a 360 repeater that feeds and extracts Eley 10x with no problems. This problem should not exist if Vudoo only uses one chamber in their repeaters and their tolerences held to very high standards as they claim! My 360 will also extract a live Eley round which tells me the bullet is not engaging the rifleing very much. Not being able to shoot Eley is something I would not tolerate as Eley still produces some of the most accurate ammo made.Sounds like the solution for everyone is...
Don't shoot Eley in a Vudoo!
Congrats!Vudoo Shipped yesterday and gets here tommrow. Have an ATS tuner inbound as well. Now just need to decide on optic and stock/chassis. Have an ACC inbound but would rather a manners/foundation.
How many people here are running tuners vs just getting it lot tested at Lapua? I sold all my tuners... just lot tested and bought 2 cases and called it good for 2 years.
I had my Vudoo/Krieger repeater tested at Mesa a couple of years ago, and bought two cases of Center-X, since that lot out-shot all the Midas+ Daniel tried in it. That lot of Center-X has been the best ammo that I've tried in in my V-22S/Shilen single shot, but it shoots far better with a Pro-X tuner than without it. Because of that, I bought another Pro-X and put it on the Krieger bbl of the repeater, and it shoots quite a lot better with either that lot of Center-X or a very good lot of SK Rifle Match. Unless Lapua can give me a good reason not to test without a tuner, I'll be sending/taking the V-22S out to them with a bare barrel...
How many people here are running tuners vs just getting it lot tested at Lapua? I sold all my tuners... just lot tested and bought 2 cases and called it good for 2 years.
I also agree with Turboshooter that the best way to lot test is with the gun set up as you will be shooting it.
Don"t take this reply the wrong way, but I don't believe you really understand the purpose of a tuner. They are not used to replace lot testing and they won't make bad ammo good. Tuners are used to eliminate verticle stringing in a shot group. This of course will tighten the overall group. They will not eliminate flyers and have little effect on horizional spread which is what lot testing will show. I also agree with Turboshooter that the best way to lot test is with the gun set up as you will be shooting it.
If you believe a tuner's primary function is to improve accuracy by reducing vertical spread, then what's it going to hurt to test to find ammo with the least spread in a bare barrel to begin with? IOW, why not use a tuner to improve what's proven to shoot best in your barrel? In reviewing the data that Daniel emailed after testing the Krieger barreled V-22 repeater that I sent out, the lot of Center-X I wound up buying had not only less vertical than any of the other ammo he used, it also had less horizontal. And he tested just the bbl'd action held in their fixture, not the complete rifle - sending just the bbl'd action is what they recommended. Either some of you guys have mis-interpreted what you've been told, or have been given different instructions & reasons for them than I got from Daniel. I will ask for clarification when I call to arrange testing again, because I'm not a rocket scientist...maybe I should ask Brian Litz for an opinion?
flew out there to test it in the stock with tuner and scope as a complete system.
They let you play with the tuner as you tested each possible lot? Or you just left the tuner at the setting for your previous favorite ammo?
Who would be the 2 manufactures of said rimfire tuners you've talked to? First I have nothing to say about Mike's product other than you don't see them on winning guns on the national level. The most popular tuners on the market as of today would be harrell and the pqp and they both do the same thing. There is no magic dust that helps reduce vibrations look at winning guns that's all one needs to do. The top of the top don't use magic tuners and rarely if at all move their tuners once tune is astablished.Tuner manufacturers -- at least two that I've talked with -- disagree with you. Just like centerfire, it depends on both the barrel *AND* the ammo... especially since ammo velocities and their effect on barrel vibration/whip differ. It's generally not much if you're using similar 22LR ammo, since bullet weights will likely be the same, but velocity won't, so it will usually benefit by at least slight adjustment (according to tuner manufacturers, Mike Ezell being one of the ones I've consulted with.
If you've ever handloaded for a centerfire rifle with a tuner, you KNOW that when you change loads, it changes spread, not just impact point, even with the same weight projectile.