That's called changing direction in the bore. LOL!No it will come right back out the chamber as you are only putting it in about 1/2". I do it all the time.
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That's called changing direction in the bore. LOL!No it will come right back out the chamber as you are only putting it in about 1/2". I do it all the time.
No it's not in the bore. It's in the chamber. No rifling there.That's called changing direction in the bore. LOL!
Today was the first time I ever heard of someone pushing a brush from the muzzle to the breach. That goes against everything I've ever been taught. First you don't want to take a chance of damaging the crown. Second, you'd be pushing everything back into the action. Third, going from the breach to the muzzle is the same way as what the projectile and the gas does, you don't reverse that.
Clean your gun how ever you want, I'll do the same. Happy Friday!
I’m trying to figure out why the direction makes a difference for carbon going down the barrel while cleaning? And “if it happened to get knocked off in the cleaning process”? Isn’t knocking carbon off kinda the point of cleaning?The best rimfire br shooters on the planet pull there brush from the muzzle to the breach. First a bronze brush bristles are the only thing really running over the crown. Second I explained to why you don't want to push a brush from breech to muzzle. I definitely would not want to push carbon down the barrel if it so happened to get knocked off in the cleaning process. You obviously haven't been around many br shooters in the rimfire game. I'm giving you guys what the top shooters are doing in rfbr. Is it set in stone ? No . It is a preferred method of the world's top benchrest rimfire shooters. Take it as you want
@CowpokeyNo it will come right back out the chamber as you are only putting it in about 1/2". I do it all the time.
Not pushing it down the damn barrel. You do know carbon is the hardest substance on earth right. What happens if you keep pushing it down the barrel? You guys are unbelievable. Do you think I make this shit up? I shoot with the best shooters this planet has to offer and this is what they do. Like I said take it as you will cause obviously you guys know it all already. LmfaoI’m trying to figure out why the direction makes a difference for carbon going down the barrel while cleaning? And “if it happened to get knocked off in the cleaning process”? Isn’t knocking carbon off kinda the point of cleaning?
So push bad but pull good to get the same substance out of the same barrel?Not pushing it down the damn barrel. You do know carbon is the hardest substance on earth right. What happens if you keep pushing it down the barrel? You guys are unbelievable. Do you think I make this shit up? I shoot with the best shooters this planet has to offer and this is what they do. Like I said take it as you will cause obviously you guys know it all already. Lmfao
I was trying to understand that also. Is there no chance debris from the carbon ring would get dragged down the bore between cleanings? Make no sense at all...that's why I put turbo on the "ignore" option. Duder tries to come off as "the expert", maybe...but I doubt it. Congrats on winning nationals @CBeck.I’m trying to figure out why the direction makes a difference for carbon going down the barrel while cleaning? And “if it happened to get knocked off in the cleaning process”? Isn’t knocking carbon off kinda the point of cleaning?
Regionals* lol but thank you sir!I was trying to understand that also. Is there no chance debris from the carbon ring would get dragged down the bore between cleanings? Make no sense at all...that's why I put turbo on the "ignore" option. Duder tries to come off as "the expert", maybe...but I doubt it. Congrats on winning nationals @CBeck.
See when you say it like that it actually makes senseMy only thought is that most of the carbon in the barrel is near the ignition of the round so going from muzzle to breach would push a lot less carbon than going from breach to muzzle.
Congratulations on the new rifle, I've had mine for a couple months now. Like you I paid attention to Vudoo's recommendations and in my case I followed them. My last daily shooter was an Anschutz and they prescribed a bronze brush every 1000 rds for the first 10k rounds. And so that is what I did. Interestingly, that rifle struggled with a carbon ring that required the brushing.Cleaning question:
I have been using bronze brushes ( like most competitive rimfire BR shooters ) to clean my BR rimfire rifles for years. Now I have a new Vudoo repeater and according to Vudoo tutorials on cleaning, we should only use nylon brushes. Any infos that Vudoo barrels are different, like more fragile ?
Thanks guys for your input.
Gilbert
You do know carbon is the hardest substance on earth right. Lmfao
That's not quite accurate either. Pencils use graphite, people use graphite as a "lubricant", it isn't a lubricant. It's slippery, compared to what is causing problems, but not a lubricant.Not exactly… just because a diamond is carbon does’t make all carbon have the characteristics of a diamond. Carbon isn’t always hard or abrasive… it depends on its form. For example, a form of carbon is what’s in pencils and used in lubricants.
Carbon is added to steel to make it harder.Graphite is an allotrope of carbon, still just carbon with different molecule alignment.
Centerfire rifles produce enough heat to burn it away.
I wasn't trying to imply they didn't. When is the last time you put 200-300-500 rounds though a centerfire in a weekend?Yes you are. Centerfire rifles do get carbon rings.
I wasn't trying to imply they didn't. When is the last time you put 200-300-500 rounds though a centerfire in a weekend?
I was trying to understand that also. Is there no chance debris from the carbon ring would get dragged down the bore between cleanings? Make no sense at all...that's why I put turbo on the "ignore" option. Duder tries to come off as "the expert", maybe...but I doubt it. Congrats on winning nationals @CBeck.
you also said when you clean the chamber you aren't getting into the bore...which is highly unlikely. The bore starts immediately at the end of the chamber, which is where the carbon ring forms. Why do you want to argue when you contradict yourself repeatedly?Actually you were when you said they produce enough heat to burn it away.
And the amount of centerfire rounds don’t matter for this discussion but a two day match you could shoot 200-300 pretty easy.
you also said when you clean the chamber you aren't getting into the bore...which is highly unlikely. The bore starts immediately at the end of the chamber, which is where the carbon ring forms. Why do you want to argue when you contradict yourself repeatedly?
My best method is the best and highly recommended. I remove barrel, insert in vise. Pull out my 8" long x 2" thick penus. Roll my penus till it comes out tu be .223 Dia by 27" long. Lube penus with vagisil lubricant. Insert elongated penus into barrel, pump barrel with 50 strokes in and out. Pull out penus, clean carbon off penus. Penus takes two days to return to normal size. Go have a beer and potato chip. Done.
Actually just saw this video on LRH and thought it was a little interesting and could add to this discussion. Not really a fan of the video maker as we have some history but the content is interesting as to brushes and barrel damage.
Yeah I had that thought too. Do that to a brand new barrel, not 4500rds old or whatever. And how can ya tell anything with all that build up at the throat??It did make me laugh that the barrel was a high round count 6.5. Almost like it says I’m confident this is going to hurt anything but just in case…..
Yeah I had that thought too. Do that to a brand new barrel, not 4500rds old or whatever. And how can ya tell anything with all that build up at the throat??
Yeah I saw that. To be honest, I didnt watch the whole video. I lost interest.I think that is why he did it at the muzzle and not the throat.