Vudoo Gun Works V-22 Rimfire Bolt Action
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Need help with trigger pin problem.
Just got my barreled action back from Jelrod. The one with the test target and went to install my TriggerTech Diamond trigger. There is no way I can get the pins in. I even pulled a pin from mu Rimx to check the fit and the pins measured .1250"" and went in and out, nice snug fit. Trying then in the Vudoo it appears the holes are just too small. I read somewhere another poster found some ..1245" pins. Any ideas? I have some drill bits and they measure .1250. Thinking I can try to polish one down or hand ream the hole though I really don't want.
Just got my barreled action back from Jelrod. The one with the test target and went to install my TriggerTech Diamond trigger. There is no way I can get the pins in. I even pulled a pin from mu Rimx to check the fit and the pins measured .1250"" and went in and out, nice snug fit. Trying then in the Vudoo it appears the holes are just too small. I read somewhere another poster found some ..1245" pins. Any ideas? I have some drill bits and they measure .1250. Thinking I can try to polish one down or hand ream the hole though I really don't want.
They are SO tight... and my hammer wasn't big enough. I did a heck of a job trying to get my trigger in... doing it a few times though loosens it up but it was a pain. I'm not taking the trigger out ...
My next Vudoo I'm sending Jelrod my trigger to do it.
He had an undersize pin to test. I'm going to try to "slim" it down 1/2 at a time with emery cloth or stone in a drill chuck. I also have some 1/8" drill bits, .1250" I can play with. I one to start but do not want to beat like that with the trigger in. Definitely send Jonathan the trigger. My other idea is to try to hone down a drill bit to get in the holes and clean them. I'm guessing the hole was drilled at .11250" and the ceracote is the problem. Rimx fit was perfect and pulling a pin it is .1250"
More than one way to skin a cat. I have one of those Chinese Ebay drill bit collections from years ago with a dozen or so each size. The 1/8 measures .1250 on the nose. !0 seconds in the drill press and a wet stone, now 1.245 and nice snug fit. I may try to do the pins, but these will work fine after Dremel cutoff and end smoothing. I still don't understand why they come undersized. Just a heads up for others getting acitiions done. There is viceo showing trigger change but that is with an action that already has the pins fitted.
Couldn't get the bolt to close. Didn't realize I needed to move the stop since up til now just shooting the Rimx.. Thankfully, a quick text to JElrod and he got me straightened out. Chambered an Eley and the unfired round ejected. I wasn't sure it would since the Ultimate reamer is so tight.
More than one way to skin a cat. I have one of those Chinese Ebay drill bit collections from years ago with a dozen or so each size. The 1/8 measures .1250 on the nose. !0 seconds in the drill press and a wet stone, now 1.245 and nice snug fit. I may try to do the pins, but these will work fine after Dremel cutoff and end smoothing. I still don't understand why they come undersized. Just a heads up for others getting acitiions done. There is viceo showing trigger change but that is with an action that already has the pins fitted.
Couldn't get the bolt to close. Didn't realize I needed to move the stop since up til now just shooting the Rimx.. Thankfully, a quick text to JElrod and he got me straightened out. Chambered an Eley and the unfired round ejected. I wasn't sure it would since the Ultimate reamer is so tight.
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Wanted to see how it would do. Not too bad
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I have to give a big shout out to TriggerTech and Trent. I got an email response today, yes Sunday indicating that they don't supply trigger pins so i guess they came with the action which if so is surprising that at some point weren't checked. I should hear back from Vudoo this week. I mentioned to Trent that the safety wasn't operating properly. He recommended I check the chassis. Pulled the barreled action, worked as is should. Looks like I need to remove some material from the chassis, MPA HS3.
I had had safety binding/freezing problems with a previous trigger that they quickly replaced, after like over a year and indicated that they have replaced the safety ball bearings with rollers to solve the issue. Great company, great trigger!
I have to give a big shout out to TriggerTech and Trent. I got an email response today, yes Sunday indicating that they don't supply trigger pins so i guess they came with the action which if so is surprising that at some point weren't checked. I should hear back from Vudoo this week. I mentioned to Trent that the safety wasn't operating properly. He recommended I check the chassis. Pulled the barreled action, worked as is should. Looks like I need to remove some material from the chassis, MPA HS3.
I had had safety binding/freezing problems with a previous trigger that they quickly replaced, after like over a year and indicated that they have replaced the safety ball bearings with rollers to solve the issue. Great company, great trigger!
I don't think any of my after market triggers came with pins, you reuse the ones that the action comes with.
You're right. I was just reaching out. I was just surprised that pins provided wouldn't fit the action. I did some serious hammering, got in a little bit but decided there was no way I wanted to hammer like that with the trigger in place. Triggertech directions say, "gently tap", which was all I had to do when I put the pins in the Rimx. I even pulled one in hopes it was smaller, but it also measured .1250. After honing the 1/8", .1250" drill bit to .1245" the fit was snug,.
Wait, did you reuse the pins that came with the action originally, or did I assume that by mistake? If you reused the pins, do they go back in the action ok, then get hard to "tap in" when they got to the trigger housing?
The pins that would not go in were the ones supplied with the action which I sent to my gunsmith for barreling. I did not send them with the action. They had never been installed. Jelrod said he used some undersized pins from a Remington 700 to use his trigger for test firing. The pins I ended up ;using, I fabrdicated from 1/8" .1250" drill bits that I honed to 1.245".
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That's funny. If the other three ingredients minimums add up to 20.5%, then the water content can only be a max of 79.5. But still that's a lot of water to pay a premium for.
While it's relatively easy to do a pre-fit for the Rim-X, it's not so simple for an action like the Vudoo where extractor slots complicate the timing/indexing of the bbl to an action. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I've personally tried to use a take-off factory Vudoo bbl in another V22 repeater, and the extractor grooves didn't index correctly. If Vudoo can't make their barrels interchangeable, I doubt anyone else is going to be able to swing it with 100% success in every action out there. That's not a knock on Vudoo, just what I've seen in one case.
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I wish I could get a barrel for my Vudoo to shoot cheaper bulk ammo. Mine will not reliably chamber CCI even. With recent shortages, it would be nice to at least have the option to put another barrel on, even if it wasn't as accurate as my original.
Yep once you get a barrel spun up for it, you can just action wrench them off and on and swap like any other rifle.
Vudoo will rebarrel any action at a pretty decent price.
I just got my Vudoo barreled action back from JElrod, Modacam. He does prefits for Rimx, but needed the action for the reasons mentioned. I had him chamber with an Eley Ultimate reamer which is very tight and still allows me to chamber CCI Std. Just to make sure, I chambered a CCI, it took a little more push to close the bolt, wouldn't extract the fired case, but did eject the fired hull. There are a number of "match" chambers out there that shoot extremely well and are "friendlier" with less costly ammo. Jonathan uses a modified version of the JGS Match reamer set to engrave an amount he has found best, on his personal Vudoo and the one he chambered for Cnris Simmons when he won the 2021 NRL Championship. I shot this chamber and it "ate" everything I had. He is very familiar with the Vudoo concept since he also works on and converts 40x actions which I believe was the inspiration for the Vudoo action. Between my Vudoo and a Rimx, he has done 4 barrels for me and I am totally pleased with his work. He is also great to work and communicate with.
Post corrected r.e. Jelrod's reamer.
Post corrected r.e. Jelrod's reamer.
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Just to clarify something said in the above post, the chamber I’m currently using most is not a JGS Match. Although based on it, it is different in almost all dimensions. I’ve only ever chambered a few rifles with a standard JGS match reamer. There are reasons I prefer different.
Carry on……
Carry on……
Okay that's good to know! I was like... Jelrod's magic can't just be a plain ol JGS Match, he's going to have some sort of special sauce in there
I think Vudoo uses a firing pin with a different profile now. I sent my gun in for something else, and they told me that they changed the pin, although I had no problems with Eley or anything else. Contact them.
Id love too but Im in Australia so Im gonna chat to my gunsmith and see if he will chamber a barrel for my Vudoo for me.
I would think if he is familiar with 22 that would be no problem and you would be able to decide on a chamber of your choice. I'm very happy with the results my gunsmith on the action I ordered from Vudoo.
Some chassis or stock systems are harder to get set up correctly so the rounds feed reliably since 22lr is less forgiving. If I could just send it to Vudoo and have them do it so it all fits right I'd probably do it but not sure if I feel like doing all the trial and error on my own.
I have an older MDT HS3 chassis, mounted the Vudoo my gunsmith barreled and it functions flawlessly. You might contact Jelrod at Modacam for his thoughts. He test fired my system after barreling it. He sent me a picture and it showed a chassis system being used. I have no idea which one it was.
You will most likely need an extended mag latch for krg. MDT chassis all should work. XLR envy pro all work too.
Or you could get the 3d printed adjustable magazine if latch on the chassis don't work.
I'm playing with one right now and it's better than i thought
I'm playing with one right now and it's better than i thought
The krg systems are super easy to adjust and make work. Anyone having issues just honestly hasn't set anything up properly. I have a whiskey 3 and have adjusted it perfect and have zero issues
I'd fall into that category as far as setting up a .22lr in a chassis system, never done it. I had an X-Ray for a centerfire back years ago and then went the Manners route for awhile. Now I'm converting everything I can (centerfires) back to KRG and would love to do the same for my Vudoo. Just never found anything that fits me like the KRG stuff does.
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I have just over 4500 (all Center-X) rounds through my first Vudoo since 12 Nov 21 - no issues whatsoever. My current Vudoo is in a McMillan U-1 stock but it may go into another KRG-B shortly.
6gunner, I’m waiting for the gen2 acc to come out in a couple months for my vudoo 22” barreled action. Yours looks like the 20” version but how does that 20” balance? I’m also going to use a mark5 unless leupold comes out with something new this fall/winter. Thinking the 5x25. What rings/height sis you go with? Thanks
Bayou, it’s a 20” Kukri profile. I have the weights but I haven’t installed them yet. The gun is rear heavy.
The rings are 1.42” high M10 American Rifle Company rings. I like them high cause I have a big ass Charlie Brown head.
I did a thing...... I ordered a V22 with a 22inch MTU barrel. Should have it by the end of the week. Anyone running or have run the MDT ACC Chassis? Any problems with it? how much weight internal/external was needed?
I’ve a 3/60 with 22” mtu in an acc chassis, all 5 front internal weights installed. Balance is fine for me, but I may try to remove 2 off them to lower the overall weight some. Also an XTR pro on order to change out my razor 2.
Love the combination of chassis and action, no issues after Vudoo addressed the ejection problem on my rifle. Perfect mag fit and function in the acc.
Love the combination of chassis and action, no issues after Vudoo addressed the ejection problem on my rifle. Perfect mag fit and function in the acc.
What razor 2 are you running? Was debating razor 2 or strike eagle? Are you selling your razor 2?
It’s not for sale sorry, HD gen2 goes back on my RPR. Bought it new many years ago when they were 2400. Has the ebr1 reticle, love it because it’s not as busy as the tree ones.
The razor is a good choice for a 22 if you find one for a great price. Some competitors are often cheaper, like a Cronus gen 2 as an example.
Regular xtr 3’s are even cheaper as the Cronus.
The razor is a good choice for a 22 if you find one for a great price. Some competitors are often cheaper, like a Cronus gen 2 as an example.
Regular xtr 3’s are even cheaper as the Cronus.
im kinda stuck on vortex, I have a strike eagle on a Bergara b14r and like locking turrets etc. What rings and what ring height did you need for the HD gen 2
I use vortex / seekins and mainly arc rings and mounts around 1.50” height. On the acc chassis
you have enough adjustments to get your cheek weld correct.
Like to shoot prone, square behind the rifle (body pointed straight to the target)
and be able to keep my head up in a comfortable position without “rolling over”.
I’m not able to do this with lower height rings.
you have enough adjustments to get your cheek weld correct.
Like to shoot prone, square behind the rifle (body pointed straight to the target)
and be able to keep my head up in a comfortable position without “rolling over”.
I’m not able to do this with lower height rings.
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