We grew a set of balls

"The attack happened after a dinner where Trump and Chinese president discussed how to handle north korea"

That shit was staged.

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this should have been done long ago. If anything can wipe away the previous admins 'legacy' it's that Trump stood up and stomped on barbarism where Obama just talked about how bad it is.

I dont know know where this will lead but as an American, I approve this bombing.

 
I would prefer my cruise missiles to be pointed at the cartels to the south. Muslims killing Muslims is more deserving of a hallmark card and some coupons for a free pizza party.

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To me it looks as if it's just a bunch of terrorist types fighting each other. So let em. I dont think I would be alone starting a slow clap if they had gassed 8 million of them.


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And now we wait and see.

Logic says something is not right here.

Trump comes in and policy becomes Assad can stay.

Assad pulls the move that's guaranteed to stir up a nest of shit.

Why?

Assad has the backing of Iran/Russia which gives him the muscle to win. They just don't want to win quick when there is more opposition to bleed white. Kind of like the Katyn massacre but letting time and someone else kill the people that may oppose you.

I think whats happening in Syria is being oversimplified. We are told there is Assad and there are rebels.

Perhaps there is Assad, there are some crazy ass generals, there are three rebels that carry a Constitution as their inspiration and want a free country, there are about 50 different radical muslim factions that cant agree on what night Mohammad declared it was okay to screw little boys so they want to kill anyone that doesn't agree with their dogma.

The opposition has every motivation in the world to use chems implicating Assad. They just got a reaction that helps them. Trump is now on their side (kind of).

Does some crazy Assad regime general do this on his own? Possible. Assad cant say that though as it makes it look like he is weaker than he is.

I'm more inclined to think some Ordnance Pvt couldn't read the English writing on the bomb that said "Sarin gifted to Iraq for use against Iran Only" when he pulled it from the pile and loaded up the plane. But how do you come out to the world and say "We are such dipshits we mistakenly loaded up a chem that we promised we didn't have and mistakenly bombed those people. Sorry wont happen again."

Lots of chest thumping.

I still think we are better off with Assad the Secular Optometrist in iron fisted power in control of a "stable" country AND THAN we launch cruise missle attacks any time he decides to aid and abet terrorism outside his country.

If it stops here with the stern warning "The world does not accept the use of chemical weapons. Do it again stand by for more." than fine.

Would have been nice had this been accompanied with a statement from the UN asking the US to do what they are incapable of doing and provide a check paying for it.

What now?

The UN, Saudi Arabia, Quattar, UAE, Iran open their bank accounts and set up a safe zone in some "peaceful" portion of Syria. Tell every "peaceful" Syrian, ie no military age males, to get to the safe zone. US and Russian firepower, back the middle eastern troops that will protect the safe zone. Everyone in the safe zone is protected by drones, cruise missles, US/Russian air power and Middle Eastern troops on the ground. The rest of the country becomes a free fire zone and they can use gas if they choose to do so. It will get this shit over quicker so that the last man standing can be made winner and start rebuilding his country.
 
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we really just flexed our forearms on this. 50 tomahawks without even sweating.

Puttin doesnt seem too happy about it so it will be entertaining to see what happens when he decides to make his next play.

my only concern with the US is that i dont want us getting too sympathetic to the cause were we start talking in more refugees because of it. Let them destroy Germany all they want. save the scope companys with the good german glass but the rest i am not too worried about.
 
we really just flexed our forearms on this. 50 tomahawks without even sweating.

Puttin doesnt seem too happy about it so it will be entertaining to see what happens when he decides to make his next play.

my only concern with the US is that i dont want us getting too sympathetic to the cause were we start talking in more refugees because of it. Let them destroy Germany all they want. save the scope companys with the good german glass but the rest i am not too worried about.

The Dems are advocating for exactly that taking in more refugees see Seth Moultons latest quote.
 
Assad had it coming
 

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Beats the shit out of 'let me be clear' 50 fucking times, doesn't it?

It's an improvement, but I'm not going to be satisfied until we as a whole either decide we are going to wage Total War, or we are going to stay out of it because it's a bunch of fucking faggots that don't hinder or improve our lives. Our main problem is the perception that when we get involved, we'll tend to play fuck fuck games with bullshit ROE and talk more about killing the enemy rather than allowing those that can, to actually do it.

Eventually we're going to be caught with our pants down, wholesale, by an enemy that is willing to do things that we are unwilling to do.
 
Russia supposedly got all the chemical weapons from Syria, either they lied or played the Russians for fools, Putin comes up for election next year, he can't appear to be weak to the US now, but if Assad stays in power after lying to Putin or playing him for a fool. A lot of people around Putin end up dead. My guess is if the US has to strike again, Assads ass is going to blow up with whatever building he is in. Russia will rattle sabers but allow it while they put in someone they want to deal with , while letting the world see Assad is now gone from the playing field. Puzzles me how the press isn't pushing the story line more of why their were still chemical weapons in Assads possession though,it's chess, not checkers.
 
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...-airstrikes-support-amid-russia-china-chatter

150000 Chinese to the n Korean border.

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To restore N/K, after we off the kid would be my guess. Regardless of what the media says China only uses them to poke us as there is no real loved for N/K. China has to keep pumping them up which is a huge drain on their economy. Would they back them in a US N/K conflict? I really don't think so. Remember they need us worst than they need N/K. Saber rattling is just that.
 
They say the troop moves are to prevent a North Korean version of what eastern Europe did to western Europe when the wall fell or what Europe is now getting from the middle east.

I don't know though Asian countries don't seem so accepting of other Asian peoples. Seems like when Asians seek refuge its in Western countries or with their own lingual group.

I see the N Koreans travelling south to tank the S Korean economy if fat boy gets whacked. S Korea is no fan of their unsophisticated cousins from the north.
 
S Korea is no fan of their unsophisticated cousins from the north.
No they are not, an I have first hand memory's of same.
My first OS duty station was at Camp Wilbert B-1/8th Cav in 1965. That Camp is in the spoonbill which is land locked to N/K via the imjin river. Many a night while on S/O H/K or ambush we would be entertained by the ROK troops. They would build fires on/above the MDL an sing how they hated N/K, an their lack of balls to come out an play. One night N/K rolled out every speaker they had an tried to sink them up to broadcast their normal B/S., The ROK guys had them so pissed, the message they tried to send was so fucked up I think every guy (American & ROK ) in the zone that night busted out laughing. I know when we went south of the river after that, we were ask by many guys what the hell was going on up there that night to stir the N/K's up that bad. I always had respect for the ROK guys, but more so when we teamed up again in other lands of fun. Back then they sure as hell knew how to push the N/K button.
 
Assad had it coming

The sad part is - people like you, that literally do not know their own ass from apple butter about the subject, vote; and your vote impacts me.

You have no idea that this is about oil and gas pipelines
You have no idea that the US / Qatar / Saudi Arabia have spent more than $1 Billion to foment war in Syria
You have no idea that we are arming AQ, and allowing the sale of AQ confiscated oil that is then sold on the blackmarket through Turkey
You have no idea that all indications of prior chemical attacks show them to be false flag attacks
You have no idea that the last time there was a chem attack, and the NeoCon$ tried to get Obama to bomb the shit out of Syria, that Barry had it tested for precursors - and came to find out that it was part of Gaddafi’s stash (stolen and smuggled in by US Dept of State and HRC)
You have no idea that these plans have been on the table since the 1980’s, were freshened up and put in white paper, and are being waged / prosecuted by private interests like Gen Petraeus - with the spoils going into private hands (truly stop and ask yourself why does a former General work for KKR? What the fuck does he have to offer? Oh...yeah, well unless you wanted to topple a few countries with a private army and then goad the US into the fight)


I really do not understand how it is that the cheeto eating masses out there cheer when start killing people, wrap their ass in the flag, volunteer for, have reverence for the MIL; only to put on their shocked face, and want to blame only certain politicians who lied to them about getting them into war under false pretenses. America as a whole needs to take responsibility. They lied to us about Pearl Harbor / Gulf of Tonkin / ‘Throwing babies on the floor’ in Kuwait / WMDs in Iraq / been caught lying about gas attacks in Syria already......


America - Wake The Fuck Up.
 
The sad part is...

Whoa nelly, I'm not necessarily going to say you're wrong but you're at a operating at a level 10 right now and need to bring it back down to about a 6. Seriously though, this is the internet and you don't know who or what kind of a person I am. Generally if you want to get your point across with someone, assuming that you know what kind of person they are, assuming what they do or don't know, and lamenting the fact they can vote is not going to get you far. Also, ending what you had to say with "America - Wake the Fuck up" doesn't add anything to your point. I am on this forum quite a bit, and post very little because I generally prefer to read and listen, rather then come looking to rant on a guy who made a four word post; so fire away when ready, I'll listen.
 
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