Well if you don't have a VPN....

[n2ishun]

I would strongly suggest getting one now.
I'm absolutely certain we all know what this is about before even reading the story.
Even though the story doesn't outright say it, everyone knows this is about limiting what you can or cannot say on the internet.
This is in direct response to Elon Musk buying up Twitter, there can be no doubts.

U.S. joins 55 nations to set new global rules for the internet

The United States and 55 other nations on Thursday signed a political commitment to push rules for the internet that are underpinned by democratic values, at a time when the U.S. has accused Russia of wielding internet disruptions as a part of its escalating attacks on Ukraine.

www.reuters.com

Sad, sad day.

 

[n2ishun]

O BTW.
Before someone goes spouting about 'muh 1st amendment' ...
There was no internet when the 1st was written so it will easily get blown out of court as not covering the internet.
If you couldn't see THAT 16 miles down the road coming this way......well, I have all sorts of imaginary shit to sell you.

 

[cas6969]

That's what they try to say about guns. "The founding fathers couldn't have imagined..."

I always reply "So you're saying if George Washington could have used M-16's against the Red Coats, he wouldn't have?

 

[hankpac]

That's what they try to say about guns. "The founding fathers couldn't have imagined..."

I always reply "So you're saying if George Washington could have used M-16's against the Red Coats, he wouldn't have?

He had the Puckle Gun, invented in 1710. They COULD imagine a autoloading, repeating cranked gun.

 

[rtB]

Run Linux, use the Tor browser over a VPN and only buy stuff using Bitcoin. They'll never know.

Ha, I crack myself up sometimes.

 

[Fx51LP308]

Run Linux, use the Tor browser over a VPN and only buy stuff using Bitcoin. They'll never know.

Ha, I crack myself up sometimes.

Not Bitcoin.... The Feds are coming after Bitcoin. They'll be all over it shortly.

Maybe Gold and Silver. They aren't paying that much attention to those, at this point.

 

[supercorndogs]

1st amendment doesn't cover the internet.

 

[DocRDS]

That's what they try to say about guns. "The founding fathers couldn't have imagined..."

I always reply "So you're saying if George Washington could have used M-16's against the Red Coats, he wouldn't have?

Bitch you know he'd be boss and have a Ma Deuce!

 

[FWoo45]

If you really think a VPN will protect you, I’ve got a bridge for sale. It’s made out of a hunk of steel some guy found out in his pasture. At this point I think of my VPN as mostly just an ad blocker. Most sites are wise to it and won’t let you do much of anything unless you turn it off. Hell even midway wouldn’t let me on unless I turned it off the other day. I suspect because some bot was using the same location and I could’ve just changed it but the point is that sites don’t like you running a VPN. Or maybe Surfshark just sucks.

 

[MK20]

He had the Puckle Gun, invented in 1710. They COULD imagine a autoloading, repeating cranked gun.

Everybody loves the puckle gun but forgets the chambers flintlock. A true machine gun with sustained fire for about 2 minutes. Thomas Jefferson shot one on Alexander Hamilton's property back at the end of the 1700s so they knew about and personally fired machine guns by the ATF's own current definition.

 

[eflyguy]

"VPN" is a joke.

You're just paying for someone to sell your information, instead of having it harvested it by your ISP for free.

(I've worked in IT security for over two decades)

 

[MK20]

The common consensus is that if you are really worried use both an East bloc friendly VPN layered through a Western Friendly VPN while using TOR if you are really worried.

Or just don't use tech at all. Problem solved.

 

[BipThatInstance]

Eh, all of the consumer VPNs are not really private, and there is still a record of the original client IP that initiates connectivity. Sure it can be NAT'ed through a cell tower or your ISP but tracing back especially when you pay for it is not too hard when you can subpeona and tap the data.

TOR is even more compromised unless you start your own exit node but it wont be long until someone starts sitting on it.

Best thing is creating your own VPN on public cloud infra and changing it every month since the public IP space is big enough to hide in plain site for short periods of time and you control your own logs

 

[n2ishun]

As I thought.
Everyone so far is crying about this and that and not seeing the threat I posted about.

This "law" will gag you unless you ONLY post democratic views.
Do you not understand that ?

Elon Musk bought Twitter for the soul purpose of allowing complete and total free speech.
The Democrappers don't like that, so they went over his head and will be governing the entire internet to disallow free speech.

 

[6.5SH]

Even Microsoft is going to bundle in their own VPN into Edge soon. This is about creating choke points and harvesting data not privacy.

Many of the 3rd party VPN services are now owned by a company called Kape whom used to be known as Crossrider a rather notorious israeli adware company.

Unless you are creating your own VPN as stated above you really aren't protecting anything.

 

[powdahound76]

It has to fall to the point people do something about it.

They (we) havent had enough yet.

Bring it on.

 

[Franko]

The right VPN is going to give you a little privacy and might protect you while your pirating movies and music. If your threat model includes law enforcement or three letter agencies you need to go a whole lot further down the rabbit hole.

 

[rtB]

If your threat model includes law enforcement or three letter agencies...

What if it only includes those.

Asking for a friend.

 

[Franko]

What if it only includes those.

Asking for a friend.

Tell your friend that playing against the man is almost always a losing proposition. The juice better be worth the squeeze.

 

[pmclaine]

O BTW.
Before someone goes spouting about 'muh 1st amendment' ...
There was no internet when the 1st was written so it will easily get blown out of court as not covering the internet.
If you couldn't see THAT 16 miles down the road coming this way......well, I have all sorts of imaginary shit to sell you.

Dumbest thing I read today.

Must only post in the musket section here.

 

[n2ishun]

Here's a goody even if it is Fox news...
Applies to everything above.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

Or, what about those who don't have/do twitter? No twits, twats, tweets, toots, or tuts here.

 

[TurboTrout]

If you really think a VPN will protect you, I’ve got a bridge for sale. It’s made out of a hunk of steel some guy found out in his pasture. At this point I think of my VPN as mostly just an ad blocker. Most sites are wise to it and won’t let you do much of anything unless you turn it off. Hell even midway wouldn’t let me on unless I turned it off the other day. I suspect because some bot was using the same location and I could’ve just changed it but the point is that sites don’t like you running a VPN. Or maybe Surfshark just sucks.

How silly, it’s like having a grease fire in a pan and flinging the grease on the walls i mean you already have a small fire, what’s it matter.

It’s just another tool to protect you and yours

I have had very minor issues running a VPN full time on all my devices, and those issues were overdone with a few clicks and 10 seconds.

 

[hlee]

Or, what about those who don't have/do twitter? No twits, twats, tweets, toots, or tuts here.

No twats? None?

 

[TurboTrout]

I also hate seeing “democratic values” it’s just another word for communism/socialism/isms

We are a constitutional republic and there is a VERY large difference between that and the filth known as “democracy”

 

[Gary/CO]

Nephew warned me that most VPNs are being bought up by one entity. Choose wisely.

 

[TurboTrout]

Nephew warned me that most VPNs are being bought up by one entity. Choose wisely.

The most private VPN in 2024

Protect your data and identity with the most private VPN services

www.tomsguide.com

 

[OREGUN]

Elon Musk bought Twitter for the soul purpose of allowing complete and total free speech.

. Yeah. Sure he did.

 

[TurboTrout]

. Yeah. Sure he did.

If he does what he says he’s going to do, meaning open source etc sounds about right.

I’d also wager he saw what happened via censorship of the last election and how we are now in the situation we are in with biden, largely because of tech suppressing clear evidence showing how un trustworthy and very corrupt and creeping biden is, and how that evidence could have changed the outcome of the election.

I’d wager space X would have been better off with a different election outcome.

I also recall a story with star link being used in ukraine, Musk was asked to censor russian propaganda and only allow ukraine propaganda, he refused stating that’s not how free speech works, and he’d have no part in it.


Seems he passes the litmus test and speaks in one voice on the subject of 1A

Elon Musk Says Starlink Will Not Censor Russian News Sources Despite Government Requests – Featured Bitcoin News

Elon Musk says Starlink has been told by some governments to block Russian news sources, but says: "We will not do so unless at gunpoint."

news.bitcoin.com

 

[n2ishun]

The most private VPN in 2024

Protect your data and identity with the most private VPN services

www.tomsguide.com

I'd trust Toms guide as far as I could throw him.
One needs only look at the advertising revenue they get to know that there is something "hinky" going on.
I'm actually surprised Proton VPN made the list, it's not bad and a helluva lot better than every other one on Toms list.
A good VPN to look at is Privado VPN.

Black Friday VPN $1.11 Deal From PrivadoVPN | PrivadoVPN

Get $1.11 Unlimited VPN

privadovpn.com

 

[Llatikcuf]

On the subject of internet privacy, how secure is Proton Mail?
How about the Telegram and Signal text apps?

 

[MadDuner]

Telegram and Signal are both read in real time by anybody in government that wants to.....

I do not know about ProtonMail.

 

[Maser]

We all have 100% free VPNs. It's called having fucking common sense when browsing the net! Reminds me of all the dipshits who were talking about how great Norton 360 was at dealing with malware only for them to find out the hard way that Norton 360 itself was malware.

 

[BytorJr]

Tails is about as good as you can get.

Tails - Home

tails.boum.org

its secure enough that the NSA apparently labeled it a "major threat"....god enough for me.

Tails (operating system) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Apparently anybody even searching for tails is subject to the wrath of The Alphabeti. Unreal. Must be good shit then and there is obviously a faction that must be truly scared of We the People.

 

[TurboTrout]

We all have 100% free VPNs. It's called having fucking common sense when browsing the net! Reminds me of all the dipshits who were talking about how great Norton 360 was at dealing with malware only for them to find out the hard way that Norton 360 itself was malware.

VPNs are a pretty important tool in one’s belt.

 

[TurboTrout]

I'd trust Toms guide as far as I could throw him.
One needs only look at the advertising revenue they get to know that there is something "hinky" going on.
I'm actually surprised Proton VPN made the list, it's not bad and a helluva lot better than every other one on Toms list.
A good VPN to look at is Privado VPN.

Black Friday VPN $1.11 Deal From PrivadoVPN | PrivadoVPN

Get $1.11 Unlimited VPN

privadovpn.com

Yeah Toms ain’t the best, but it was a quick search.

Nord isn’t too bad, seems like the breach they had actually turned them into a better product, underdog has to be the tuffer dog, that said proton is a pretty good company, I’ve been meaning to use them for email hosting

 

[OREGUN]

If he does what he says he’s going to do, meaning open source etc sounds about right.

I’d also wager he saw what happened via censorship of the last election and how we are now in the situation we are in with biden, largely because of tech suppressing clear evidence showing how un trustworthy and very corrupt and creeping biden is, and how that evidence could have changed the outcome of the election.

I’d wager space X would have been better off with a different election outcome.

I also recall a story with star link being used in ukraine, Musk was asked to censor russian propaganda and only allow ukraine propaganda, he refused stating that’s not how free speech works, and he’d have no part in it.


Seems he passes the litmus test and speaks in one voice on the subject of 1A

Elon Musk Says Starlink Will Not Censor Russian News Sources Despite Government Requests – Featured Bitcoin News

Elon Musk says Starlink has been told by some governments to block Russian news sources, but says: "We will not do so unless at gunpoint."

news.bitcoin.com

I just don’t believe that a “willing to gamble $40b” commitment to the Bill of Rights is the deciding factor for a South African immigrant who just so happens to be the world’s richest man who coincidentally believes the future of humanity will be a colony on Mars….

 

[TurboTrout]

I just don’t believe that a “willing to gamble $40b” commitment to the Bill of Rights is the deciding factor for a South African immigrant who just so happens to be the world’s richest man who coincidentally believes the future of humanity will be a colony on Mars….

Well I’m all on board with the mars mission, actually put in my application for that years ago. Frankly I’d rather spend the ukraine and afgan and Iraq money on space than making the military complex rich(er)

Also do you think it would be easier or harder to complete his mission in a free America or a America that’s run more like china or ukraine?

The reason this country was able to become what she has become was because of freedom and liberty, the celebration of the individual and new ideas, there’s also a reason you don’t see original thought in places like the combloc and china, keeping the US free keeps a overreaching state from getting in space x’s way, and if the US falls to statism where is musk going to take space X? We are the last island of freedom, we have some threats to that, fighting those bad ideas with free speech is the best way to do it.



Again, based on Musks history, him buying Twitter doesn’t seem like anything but good for America.

 

[frankxtc]

I would expect most of the VPN’s and other “hide me” tools are agency honeypots.

 

[TurboTrout]

I would expect most of the VPN’s and other “hide me” tools are agency honeypots.

Divided and conquered

do your own due diligence, but paranoia to the point of sacrificing protection meh

 

[357Max]

Yeah I heard from a friend of a friends second cousins friends housekeeper that Tails run on Tor cannot and or has not yet been cracked by NSA.

My understanding is Tails/Tor is the Last & only possible way to have truly private transmitted speech.

Welcome to the technological train car.

Let’s say NY had actually passed the proposed re-education camp BS i.e. Gov goes full tilt tyrannical and You say damn we need to organize a strategic response.
How would you do that from the technological train car?
If you have an answer to the above don’t type it here.
Think about that for a minute.

IMO the current state of the State is antithetical to the constitution.

So even if Musk’s Twat remake is good & I think it will be, it’ll also be a windfall for the Alphabet’s Mining for persons of interest. Said interest as defined by them and dependent on which side of the pendulum the deep state is leaning.

 

[OREGUN]

Well I’m all on board with the mars mission, actually put in my application for that years ago. Frankly I’d rather spend the ukraine and afgan and Iraq money on space than making the military complex rich(er)

Also do you think it would be easier or harder to complete his mission in a free America or a America that’s run more like china or ukraine?

The reason this country was able to become what she has become was because of freedom and liberty, the celebration of the individual and new ideas, there’s also a reason you don’t see original thought in places like the combloc and china, keeping the US free keeps a overreaching state from getting in space x’s way, and if the US falls to statism where is musk going to take space X? We are the last island of freedom, we have some threats to that, fighting those bad ideas with free speech is the best way to do it.



Again, based on Musks history, him buying Twitter doesn’t seem like anything but good for America.

All true but don’t think for a second that its not good for Musk first.

 

[valsport]

From what I've read ProtonMail is pretty solid I use their paid VPN. I'm certainly not as versed in the IT trade craft as many but yes the ad blocking benefits are nice even if browsing can never be totally anonymous. Biggest downside is functionality with everyday stuff most sites won't run with all of the browsers settings and a VPN setup for max privacy. The sites use and sell your info and don't let you interface if you deny them your valuable info. Pretty Fing frustrating.

 

[Nik H]

It has to fall to the point people do something about it.

They (we) havent had enough yet.

Bring it on.

They have to shut off porn and then there will be howling...LOL

 

[LMTMWS]

Tails is about as good as you can get.

Tails - Home

tails.boum.org

its secure enough that the NSA apparently labeled it a "major threat"....good enough for me.

Tails (operating system) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You have to use it correctly though....ETA: I had it given to me by an NSA person when I was in Iraq. He only used it via a thumb drive to connect.

 

[rtB]

You have to use it correctly though....ETA: I had it given to me by an NSA person when I was in Iraq. He only used it via a thumb drive to connect.

If you don't use it correctly NSA doesn't get your packets directly, they have to grab them off the router. Really pisses them off. Extra work for no extra pay.

 

[chevy_man]

Everyone should be using at least TOR if there's a reason to vpn in the first place.


Bonus is it's free, open source, and easy.

 

[candyx]

Telegram and Signal are both read in real time by anybody in government that wants to.....

I do not know about ProtonMail.

Government listens and sees all , even the caves in Afghanistan aren't secured anymore .

 

[918v]

O BTW.
Before someone goes spouting about 'muh 1st amendment' ...
There was no internet when the 1st was written so it will easily get blown out of court as not covering the internet.
If you couldn't see THAT 16 miles down the road coming this way......well, I have all sorts of imaginary shit to sell you.

So much stupid in your response

 

[MadDuner]

Government listens and sees all , even the caves in Afghanistan aren't secured anymore .

The FBI has advertised the transcripts from the Signal comms between Oath Keepers on Jan 6. They supposedly got them in real time. My problem with “their” supposed transcripts is that how does anybody know that the “advertised” transcripts is actually what was said?