Well, seems to me like this is a great American... not a perp!

[sirhrmechanic]

This guy beat-to-death a perv who followed his daughter into a bathroom stall...

And now is being charged with 2nd Degree Homicide? WTF... guy needs a medal for good citizenry.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/1...-daughter-into-bathroom-stall-police-say.html


Sirhr

 

[mdmp5]

It’s gonna be a tough case to defend Sirhr. Account of the incident was heard 2nd hand. A few explanations of why the moron was shaking the door, and then the dude threw bombs on the guy well after the unwitnessed incident. I think his heart was in the right place but I don’t see this ending well

 

[W54/XM-388]

It seems you have to actually beat the perverts to death while they are actually in the act.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Let's see video. That will save or sink the guy

 

[wilson1911]

I read the story. While I do believe we should protect our kids. It was after the fact that he beat him down. This is why I think he will get convicted. If the perp was trying to enter and he "caught" him, well then take care of business.

 

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I read the story. While I do believe we should protect our kids. It was after the fact that he beat him down. This is why I think he will get convicted. If the perp was trying to enter and he "caught" him, well then take care of business.

who gives a shit WHEN he beat the fuck.......guy deserved to be beaten......it doesnt make a difference if it was "in the act" or later....

you follow a guys daughter into a bathroom and harass her....to deserve to be beat with a pipe.....if you die, no great loss to society.

what the fuck happened to society where the father is the "bad guy"......fuck, we should be thankful he killed this guy, now he cant go around harassing other women.

if someone followed my wife or daughter into the bathroom.....i wouldve done the exact same thing......hunted them down and fucked them up.......shame on any man that wouldnt

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

IF he gets convicted then we need his Commissary account information so we can keep it full

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[W54/XM-388]

if someone followed my wife or daughter into the bathroom.....i wouldve done the exact same thing......hunted them down and fucked them up.......shame on any man that wouldnt

Simply because most people don't want to go to Jail and have their lives ruined for dealing out some needed and deserved justice.
There are lots of people still alive today because others understand that getting vengeance on them is not worth destroying their lives over.

Unfortunately that's the way it works just about in all states & all cases.
You might be able to beat the rap in court, but don't count on it. Either way you will be out a huge amount of money, time & be the one that the police seem to want to go after.

If you can get the laws changed, then that would be excellent. Somehow I don't think you'll succeed anytime soon.

 

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Simply because most people don't want to go to Jail and have their lives ruined for dealing out some needed and deserved justice.
There are lots of people still alive today because others understand that getting vengeance on them is not worth destroying their lives over.

your life is only ruined if you get caught....

im sure as fuck not going to let some creep assault my family and let them get away with it because of "the law"

 

[mdmp5]

who gives a shit WHEN he beat the fuck.......guy deserved to be beaten......it doesnt make a difference if it was "in the act" or later....

you follow a guys daughter into a bathroom and harass her....to deserve to be beat with a pipe.....if you die, no great loss to society.

what the fuck happened to society where the father is the "bad guy"......fuck, we should be thankful he killed this guy, now he cant go around harassing other women.

if someone followed my wife or daughter into the bathroom.....i wouldve done the exact same thing......hunted them down and fucked them up.......shame on any man that wouldnt

Your heart is in the right place mccameron, but so far, the account of events doesn't warrant dealing out an epidural hemmorhage. Think about what would happen if people acted on the accounts of every woman. Have you ever had some broad try to start shit with you for some bullshit and get her boyfriend involved? Simply accusing someone of being a creep doesn't warrant a beat down.

The girl claims the guy followed her. But it is also possible he tried to open the door to the bathroom because he had to take a shit or something. I should have a nickel for every time someone has done that to me. The name for that is a "turd burglar".

Or maybe he is a creep and followed her, in which a beat down is in order. But a death sentence is kind of extreme. This case would be so much easier if he just broke this guy's ass and he didn't die.

 

[Maser]

Kind of reminds me of this story, but the difference is the guy was caught in the act.

 

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Your heart is in the right place mccameron, but so far, the account of events doesn't warrant dealing out an epidural hemmorhage. Think about what would happen if people acted on the accounts of every woman. Have you ever had some broad try to start shit with you for some bullshit and get her boyfriend involved? Simply accusing someone of being a creep doesn't warrant a beat down.

The girl claims the guy followed her. But it is also possible he tried to open the door to the bathroom because he had to take a shit or something. I should have a nickel for every time someone has done that to me. The name for that is a "turd burglar".

Or maybe he is a creep and followed her, in which a beat down is in order. But a death sentence is kind of extreme. This case would be so much easier if he just broke this guy's ass and he didn't die.

Yes.... if you are trying to get in a stall with a little girl.... you deserve a bullet in the head......none of this “ oh I needed to take a shit” BS......

If my girl had a history of making up stuff, then yeah ide tread with caution.....but she’s not some floozie who uses her BF to bear up guys she doesn’t like...... so if she tells me someone tried to assault her in the bathroom.... imma believe her and act accordingly

 

[Nodakplowboy]

And this is why one should always carry a cheap drop knife.

"Officer, he pulled a knife on me, had to stop him. He just wouldn't give up".

 

[ArmyJerry]

JURY NULLIFICATION if the video shows the guy tried to attack her.

 

[308pirate]

It’s gonna be a tough case to defend Sirhr. Account of the incident was heard 2nd hand. A few explanations of why the moron was shaking the door, and then the dude threw bombs on the guy well after the unwitnessed incident. I think his heart was in the right place but I don’t see this ending well

Agree.

 

[spaniel]

When the beat down happened there was no longer an imminent threat being stopped. It was retribution. Ie, taking the law into one's own hands. The law is pretty clear on the consequences for this.

Just because someone is a turd, does not give a private citizen the right to act as jury and executioner.

I know two women who, as teenagers, made later admitted false rape accusations against guys. Would it have been acceptable for their fathers to kill the (falsly accused) guys based on those accusations?

 

[mdmp5]

When the beat down happened there was no longer an imminent threat being stopped. It was retribution. Ie, taking the law into one's own hands. The law is pretty clear on the consequences for this.

Just because someone is a turd, does not give a private citizen the right to act as jury and executioner.

I know two women who, as teenagers, made later admitted false rape accusations against guys. Would it have been acceptable for their fathers to kill the (falsly accused) guys based on those accusations?

This is pretty much what I was trying to articulate, but you did it better

 

[W54/XM-388]

I know two women who, as teenagers, made later admitted false rape accusations against guys. Would it have been acceptable for their fathers to kill the (falsly accused) guys based on those accusations?

That's not the fun question.

The fun question is:
If after said fathers killed those guys based on false accusations, once they were proved to be lies, would it be acceptable for family member or friend acting on behalf of the interests of the killed guys, to go kill the fathers & their daughters?

When vengeance is a sacred part of your religion those are questions you have to think about.

 

[ArmyJerry]

This only works when people trust the justice system, that is not the case anymore, you will see more and more of this. If that dead guy so much as jiggled the bathroom door handle the jury will let him off.

When the beat down happened there was no longer an imminent threat being stopped. It was retribution. Ie, taking the law into one's own hands. The law is pretty clear on the consequences for this.

Just because someone is a turd, does not give a private citizen the right to act as jury and executioner.

I know two women who, as teenagers, made later admitted false rape accusations against guys. Would it have been acceptable for their fathers to kill the (falsly accused) guys based on those accusations?

 

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yall fuckers trust our "justice" system more than i do....

the same "justice system" that found OJ not guilty

the same "justice system" that found an illegal immigrant who murdered a girl in San Fran not guilty

the same "justice system" that released a terrorist who murdered his kid and held others hostage on bail


if anyone harms my family....they are not getting the benefit of a trial...they dont deserve one so far as im concerned......blood for blood, my family didnt get a trial before they decided to attack them....why should he get that benefit too?

 

[JayB]

The only person that can tell the other sidenof the story is now dead, it is not even possible to have a he said she said. What if this was a misunderstanding to begin with? Take one step back, say the guy had ill intentions. Do we punish thought crime by death now?

 

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The only person that can tell the other sidenof the story is now dead, it is not even possible to have a he said she said. What if this was a misunderstanding to begin with? Take one step back, say the guy had ill intentions. Do we punish thought crime by death now?

attempted rape is not a "thought crime"

 

[JayB]

yall fuckers trust our "justice" system more than i do....

the same "justice system" that found OJ not guilty

the same "justice system" that found an illegal immigrant who murdered a girl in San Fran not guilty

the same "justice system" that released a terrorist who murdered his kid and held others hostage on bail


if anyone harms my family....they are not getting the benefit of a trial...they dont deserve one so far as im concerned......blood for blood, my family didnt get a trial before they decided to attack them....why should he get that benefit too?

The same founding fathers who gave us second amendment also gave us trial by peers. If you feel like taking justice into your own hand I am not sure what the second amendment means to you.

 

[JayB]

attempted rape is not a "thought crime"

How do you know there was an attempt?

 

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The same founding fathers who gave us second amendment also gave us trial by peers. If you feel like taking justice into your own hand I am not sure what the second amendment means to you.

the fuck does this have to due with the 2A?

if the courts did their job, they wouldnt have this mess......but unfortunately they take "lenience" on repeat criminals and fuck over the rest of us

How do you know there was an attempt?

the fuck other reason does a dude follow a girl into a bathroom and try to get into the stall?.......to ask if she found jesus?

 

[JayB]

the fuck does this have to due with the 2A?

if the courts did their job, they wouldnt have this mess......but unfortunately they take "lenience" on repeat criminals and fuck over the rest of us

It has everything to do with 2A. You can’t selectively uphold the constitution like the democrats do.

 

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It has everything to do with 2A. You can’t selectively uphold the constitution like the democrats do.

fuck you cunt.

not my fault youre a beta cuck who would let your daughters attacker walk free....do you like watching other men fuck your wife too?

 

[JayB]

fuck you cunt.

no thank you, go fuck yourself please

 

[ArmyJerry]

well founders gave us the right ti life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which does not include people attempting to rape your kids,

It has everything to do with 2A. You can’t selectively uphold the constitution like the democrats do.

 

[spaniel]

yall fuckers trust our "justice" system more than i do....

the same "justice system" that found OJ not guilty

the same "justice system" that found an illegal immigrant who murdered a girl in San Fran not guilty

the same "justice system" that released a terrorist who murdered his kid and held others hostage on bail


if anyone harms my family....they are not getting the benefit of a trial...they dont deserve one so far as im concerned......blood for blood, my family didnt get a trial before they decided to attack them....why should he get that benefit too?

I see. So since our system isn't perfect, you favor wiping your ass with our Constitution and pursuing anarchy?

 

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I see. So since our system isn't perfect, you favor wiping your ass with our Constitution and pursuing anarchy?

another cuck who can go fuck himself.

implying i "wipe my ass with the constitution" because i dont value the life of a rapist......go choke on a dick

 

[ArmyJerry]

its fully corrupted, its not just imperfect, its weaponized against the Constitution that it pretends to operate under.

 

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when the justice system actively protects criminals....thats not a "justice system".......


dont try to spin youre defense of a rapist as me not valuing the constitution.....fuckers

the constitution sets limits on the govt.....not the people......the Govt owes you a fair trial....I do not.




fuck ide hate to be your guys wives and daughters.......they come to you saying they were attacked.....you just gonna shrug your shoulders and say "oh well honey this rapist needs a fair trial" ?.......holy shit how do you do call yourself 'men'....with any luck your daughters will find themselves a pipehitter so they dont have to run to their bitch ass fathers for protection

 

[spaniel]

when the justice system actively protects criminals....thats not a "justice system".......


dont try to spin youre defense of a rapist as me not valuing the constitution.....fuckers

the constitution sets limits on the govt.....not the people......the Govt owes you a fair trial....I do not.




fuck ide hate to be your guys wives and daughters.......they come to you saying they were attacked.....you just gonna shrug your shoulders and say "oh well honey this rapist needs a fair trial" ?.......holy shit how do you do call yourself 'men'....with any luck your daughters will find themselves a pipehitter so they dont have to run to their bitch ass fathers for protection

There is no spin here. You actively reject the Constitution...so along with it, you abide with those who attack the 2nd for similarly flawed reasons. You are the enemy.

Defend a rapist? Is rattling a stall door now considered rape?

You think you are entitled to kill a person because the Constitution places restrictions on government but you are personally allowed to kill whoever you want based on your personal assessment of the situation?

You are a seriously flawed and dangerous individual who has no place in our community.

 

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There is no spin here. You actively reject the Constitution...so along with it, you abide with those who attack the 2nd for similarly flawed reasons. You are the enemy.

Defend a rapist? Is rattling a stall door now considered rape?

You think you are entitled to kill a person because the Constitution places restrictions on government but you are personally allowed to kill whoever you want based on your personal assessment of the situation?

You are a seriously flawed and dangerous individual who has no place in our community.

like i said fuck stick......the Govt needs to give you a trial......i dont.

you attack my family.....you get beat to death.....dont accept those terms? dont attack my family.....simple as that.

and if youre defend rapists and those that attacked a little girl.....then damn right im the fucking enemy.....happy to be it to.

trying to hide behind the constitution because you are too afraid to handle matters yourself is truly despicable....honestly you should be ashamed.

go fuck yourself and enjoy watching other men fuck your wife.....im assuming she sleep around on you because you present yourself as a little bitch.

youre the fucker moaning on TV about how the "police need to do something"............im the fucker that does it........i dont need permission to protect my family.

 

[ArmyJerry]

what community you talking about dog?

 

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"rattling a stall door "........jesus fuck......nice job downplaying the actions of a predator........what the fuck was he doing in a womens bathroom?

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Jury nullification has corrected many a court case when someone on the jury has common sense.

 

[RNWRKNP]

Thank god this has never happened to me and mine because objectivity would be out the window with the perception of an attack on one of mine.? This guy reacted as most fathers would.

 

[spaniel]

like i said fuck stick......the Govt needs to give you a trial......i dont.

you attack my family.....you get beat to death.....dont accept those terms? dont attack my family

go fuck yourself and enjoy watching other men fuck your wife.....im assuming she sleep around on you because you present yourself as a little bitch.

LOL. You present yourself as an immature and intellectually anemic hot head. I'm guessing you are very upset with your lot in life and desperate to feel adequate due to your inability to provide for your family. Enjoy the prison time inherent in your outlook on life. My wife's loyalty is not contigent upon me beating people down for her. She knows I have her back even if I don't kill someone for rattling a stall door on her.

You're on ignore, don't waste your wind. But I know you will anyways.

 

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LOL. You present yourself as an immature and intellectually anemic hot head. I'm guessing you are very upset with your lot in life and desperate to feel adequate due to your inability to provide for your family. Enjoy the prison time inherent in your outlook on life. My wife's loyalty is not contigent upon me beating people down for her. She knows I have her back even if I don't kill someone for rattling a stall door on her.

your Freudian psychology is about as good as your attempts to convince yourself your wife respects you.

 

[mdmp5]

I just looked at the article again and I missed that it was a stall. I originally thought it was a bathroom door in a gas station, which could be co-ed. I have to say that if he followed her into a bathroom and fucked with her stall for sure, then he really had it coming to him. Death was the collateral damage though. Tough for the jury to nullify this case without good concrete evidence though

 

[ArmyJerry]

or his kids if he ever had the testosterone t have any.

your Freudian psychology is about as good as your attempts to convince yourself your wife respects you.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Tough for the jury to nullify this case without good concrete evidence though

Not really.

 

[mdmp5]

Not really.

You think the majority of a selected jury would be easy in this case?

 

[ArmyJerry]

The prosecutor has to convict the accused does not have to prove his innocence.

You think the majority of a selected jury would be easy in this case?

 

[mdmp5]

The prosecutor has to convict the accused does not have to prove his innocence.

Understood, but is there any known murder/manslaughter case on record where they nullified it? Only thing that comes to mind is Grisham's "A Time to Kill".

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

You think the majority of a selected jury would be easy in this case?

If there was one person who could explain it on every level to them yes, I've seen it before in Florida.

 

[ArmyJerry]

the Clintons have a long string of murdering people and having the FBI clear them before there was an investigation.

http://www.nbc12.com/story/23323684/no-charges-for-tx-man-who-beat-daughters-rapist-to-death

http://www.kfvs12.com/story/9273275/accused-rapist-shot-killed-by-victim

Understood, but is there any known murder/manslaughter case on record where they nullified it? Only thing that comes to mind is Grisham's "A Time to Kill".

 

[ArmyJerry]

Oh the injustice of it all.