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West Point graduate killed in police shooting
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Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
I was in Costco that very same day with my gun. That could have been me. gary
I was in Costco that very same day with my gun. That could have been me. gary
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shootist2004</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was in Costco that very same day with my gun. That could have been me. gary </div></div>
That's exactly what I said when I found out about it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shootist2004</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was in Costco that very same day with my gun. That could have been me. gary </div></div>
That's exactly what I said when I found out about it.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
Sad deal, my prays to the mans family. I don't think i have ever met a pointer that was strange in any way.
Sad deal, my prays to the mans family. I don't think i have ever met a pointer that was strange in any way.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
Hey I am just a Hick but something is not right with this.
Hey I am just a Hick but something is not right with this.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
Here is fox 5's article;
http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/24414959/detail.html
Here is fox 5's article;
http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/24414959/detail.html
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Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
There are a lot of missing pieces to this little puzzle.
How did he go from trying water bottles to see if they fit in his backpack to the store being evacuated and 911 calls being made?
Supposedly, his gun was concealed, but obviously something prompted the ensuing mayhem.
Did he pull the gun out of the backpack to try the water bottles?
I'll reserve judgment, based on lack of information.
There are a lot of missing pieces to this little puzzle.
How did he go from trying water bottles to see if they fit in his backpack to the store being evacuated and 911 calls being made?
Supposedly, his gun was concealed, but obviously something prompted the ensuing mayhem.
Did he pull the gun out of the backpack to try the water bottles?
I'll reserve judgment, based on lack of information.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
Yeah, more details will have to come out. Still, if I were advising the LVPD, they need to demonstrate as much transparency as they can. Right now it looks like they're trying to hide something, and that will have repercussions both in the case itself and more broadly with the public.
Yeah, more details will have to come out. Still, if I were advising the LVPD, they need to demonstrate as much transparency as they can. Right now it looks like they're trying to hide something, and that will have repercussions both in the case itself and more broadly with the public.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
Looks like LVPD IS trying to hide something. From what I see, looks liked 3 rookies (ok, one has 5 yrs, but the other two appear fresh out of diapers) and they got itchy and cut this guy down. May be wrong, but if they wanted to show what really happened, that investigation wouldnt have been delayed. Makes no sense at all for this guy to come out drawing a gun, that would have been suicide.
Going to be interesting but I am betting on a cover up cause someone got excited and fired when they shouldnt have.
Looks like LVPD IS trying to hide something. From what I see, looks liked 3 rookies (ok, one has 5 yrs, but the other two appear fresh out of diapers) and they got itchy and cut this guy down. May be wrong, but if they wanted to show what really happened, that investigation wouldnt have been delayed. Makes no sense at all for this guy to come out drawing a gun, that would have been suicide.
Going to be interesting but I am betting on a cover up cause someone got excited and fired when they shouldnt have.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
Well without being there...or seeing/hearing any evidence (not that the attorney will either)
It sounds like an over reaction by under trained personnel (i.e. most LEO's with under 10 years IMO).... not unlike the BW bus shoot em up... oh i think that might be a possible threat ... lets dump a few mags into it and be sure
I was in Bragg when the two Q course student got lit up by the PD @ sage... the tape "ran out of reel" the second the LEO walked up to the truck... mmmm... how convenient... the SSG who survived i think is still on a gag order over it
Any more I am just as worried ...if not more so... by being shot by PD that a criminal. My whole family are cops, many of my friends are cops, most of my team are cops. If i didnt have the sweetest gig other than being a fighter pilot who directs lesbian porn on weekends I'd probably be a cop too.
I hear the conversations ... I think shit like this is going to get a lot more common.
unmarked cars for traffic... hard to identify patches/uniforms ... and a shoot first ask questions later mentality and policies that support it...means cops being mis ID'ed and drawn on (i did it once) or threat behavior by one party initiates lethal reaction by the other...and then prison or a lost video tape
I think law enforcement has gotten way way to militaristic recently...and events where innocent civilians getting waxed are getting more common and will continue to do so
as for this case I'll wait and see
Well without being there...or seeing/hearing any evidence (not that the attorney will either)
It sounds like an over reaction by under trained personnel (i.e. most LEO's with under 10 years IMO).... not unlike the BW bus shoot em up... oh i think that might be a possible threat ... lets dump a few mags into it and be sure
I was in Bragg when the two Q course student got lit up by the PD @ sage... the tape "ran out of reel" the second the LEO walked up to the truck... mmmm... how convenient... the SSG who survived i think is still on a gag order over it
Any more I am just as worried ...if not more so... by being shot by PD that a criminal. My whole family are cops, many of my friends are cops, most of my team are cops. If i didnt have the sweetest gig other than being a fighter pilot who directs lesbian porn on weekends I'd probably be a cop too.
I hear the conversations ... I think shit like this is going to get a lot more common.
unmarked cars for traffic... hard to identify patches/uniforms ... and a shoot first ask questions later mentality and policies that support it...means cops being mis ID'ed and drawn on (i did it once) or threat behavior by one party initiates lethal reaction by the other...and then prison or a lost video tape
I think law enforcement has gotten way way to militaristic recently...and events where innocent civilians getting waxed are getting more common and will continue to do so
as for this case I'll wait and see
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nessal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Apparently Costco is VERY anti-2A. They have yet to turn over any tapes to the authorities or media. </div></div>
How does statement A relate to statement B? Not releasing video tapes is SOP in my area--until investigations are over, the public are not going to see ANYTHING from evidence, if for no other reason than not contaminating the jury pool. Y'all need to chill and wait a month before calling "cover-up."
On a side note, people from all walks of life break bad, including cops, boy scouts, firemen, marines, and preachers.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nessal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Apparently Costco is VERY anti-2A. They have yet to turn over any tapes to the authorities or media. </div></div>
How does statement A relate to statement B? Not releasing video tapes is SOP in my area--until investigations are over, the public are not going to see ANYTHING from evidence, if for no other reason than not contaminating the jury pool. Y'all need to chill and wait a month before calling "cover-up."
On a side note, people from all walks of life break bad, including cops, boy scouts, firemen, marines, and preachers.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
O.k...I have to say that neither links provided above provide any accurate info as to what transpired the moments leading up to this incident. How does it go from "trying out water bottles to see of they fit" to "an evacuation of the store" in the same three sentance paragraph? Lots of missing info from those two links here for anyone to be making any type of judgement.
I don't know anything about LVPD or thier current track record..it sounds odd for the delay, but a witch hunt it should not be either.
The bottom line, there are many people that are impacted by this, my thoughts for all of them.
B.
O.k...I have to say that neither links provided above provide any accurate info as to what transpired the moments leading up to this incident. How does it go from "trying out water bottles to see of they fit" to "an evacuation of the store" in the same three sentance paragraph? Lots of missing info from those two links here for anyone to be making any type of judgement.
I don't know anything about LVPD or thier current track record..it sounds odd for the delay, but a witch hunt it should not be either.
The bottom line, there are many people that are impacted by this, my thoughts for all of them.
B.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
Here we go again lol,
klrb929 writes,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well without being there...or seeing/hearing any evidence... </div></div>
So what you're saying is that like most of us you have ZERO knowledge of the incident,YET you feel qualified to make some sort of assessment as to what took place and WHY it took place? Riiiight!
klrb929 writes,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">oh i think that might be a possible threat ... lets dump a few mags into it and be sure</div></div>
Yes because that is what cops do. "Dump a few mags" into unknown threats, JUST to be sure. All day, everyday dude. Guess now you know why you can't get a fair deal on ammo.
klrb929 writes,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">and a shoot first ask questions later mentality and policies that support it</span></div></div>
Really? Where exactly do you see that mentality today in American law enforcement and more importantly what agencies have policies that support this type of mentality? Please feel free to provide links, sources, references to back your claims because I'm dying to know of any PD/SO that encourages its members to kill "innocent people" indiscriminately and at will.
klrb929 rants,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think law enforcement has gotten way way to militaristic recently...and events where innocent civilians getting waxed are getting more common and will continue to do so
</div></div>
You think? What exactly did you see, experience or hear first hand that got that little rusty gear in your head turning enough to the point that it was able to form a thought? Again, please feel free to provide us with instances from verifiable sources as to what you speak of. Especially those "kill em all" polices.
Now, I'm not saying that shit don't happen because it does. Do innocent people get killed? Yes, they do, policing is not a pretty profession and cops ARE human who make mistakes. Some of us are outright bad, corrupt and crooked but that only accounts for a tiny fraction. Most of us are hardworking, believe in what we do and want to provide for our families in an honest way.
Are cops looking to start their day off by racking up their body counts? Probably not. Cover up? In this day and age, in an agency as big as LVMPD, I highly doubt it. Their sheriff seems like he's up for re-election by the looks of all of the campaign posters. Do you honestly think that he is going to put that in jeopardy for a trio of "under trained personnel"? Highly doubtful. Stuff like that NORMALLY happens only in the movies.
Give this thing time. We don't have all the facts and there are a lot of pieces missing to the puzzle. At the end of the day, when those videos come out, we'll know the truth. Until then, give the conspiracy theories a rest.
Prayers for all involved.
Here we go again lol,
klrb929 writes,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well without being there...or seeing/hearing any evidence... </div></div>
So what you're saying is that like most of us you have ZERO knowledge of the incident,YET you feel qualified to make some sort of assessment as to what took place and WHY it took place? Riiiight!
klrb929 writes,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">oh i think that might be a possible threat ... lets dump a few mags into it and be sure</div></div>
Yes because that is what cops do. "Dump a few mags" into unknown threats, JUST to be sure. All day, everyday dude. Guess now you know why you can't get a fair deal on ammo.
klrb929 writes,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">and a shoot first ask questions later mentality and policies that support it</span></div></div>
Really? Where exactly do you see that mentality today in American law enforcement and more importantly what agencies have policies that support this type of mentality? Please feel free to provide links, sources, references to back your claims because I'm dying to know of any PD/SO that encourages its members to kill "innocent people" indiscriminately and at will.
klrb929 rants,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think law enforcement has gotten way way to militaristic recently...and events where innocent civilians getting waxed are getting more common and will continue to do so
</div></div>
You think? What exactly did you see, experience or hear first hand that got that little rusty gear in your head turning enough to the point that it was able to form a thought? Again, please feel free to provide us with instances from verifiable sources as to what you speak of. Especially those "kill em all" polices.
Now, I'm not saying that shit don't happen because it does. Do innocent people get killed? Yes, they do, policing is not a pretty profession and cops ARE human who make mistakes. Some of us are outright bad, corrupt and crooked but that only accounts for a tiny fraction. Most of us are hardworking, believe in what we do and want to provide for our families in an honest way.
Are cops looking to start their day off by racking up their body counts? Probably not. Cover up? In this day and age, in an agency as big as LVMPD, I highly doubt it. Their sheriff seems like he's up for re-election by the looks of all of the campaign posters. Do you honestly think that he is going to put that in jeopardy for a trio of "under trained personnel"? Highly doubtful. Stuff like that NORMALLY happens only in the movies.
Give this thing time. We don't have all the facts and there are a lot of pieces missing to the puzzle. At the end of the day, when those videos come out, we'll know the truth. Until then, give the conspiracy theories a rest.
Prayers for all involved.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Texagator</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: klrb929</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... and a shoot first ask questions later mentality and policies that support it...</div></div> For someone who claims to have personal connections to police personnel and inside knowledge about law-enforcement, you sure stumbled and fell on your face when you wrote this. </div></div>
And doesn't even fill out HIS OWN PROFILE.Please tell us what your "Sweet Gig" is. Inquiring minds would like to know.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Texagator</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: klrb929</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... and a shoot first ask questions later mentality and policies that support it...</div></div> For someone who claims to have personal connections to police personnel and inside knowledge about law-enforcement, you sure stumbled and fell on your face when you wrote this. </div></div>
And doesn't even fill out HIS OWN PROFILE.Please tell us what your "Sweet Gig" is. Inquiring minds would like to know.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
I'd venture to guess he is/was an 18B in 19th group which would be correct as they have elements inWA state and his facebook shows Bellevue,WA as his current city.
klr- initials or "killer"
b- 18B
929- ODA from 19th group.
References to Bragg, Q course, sources that would know of gag orders, his "team" are mostly cops, etc.
As I am unable to find a "Frank Plumb" on AKO, I'd venture toward guessing that is either an alias for FB data farming paranoia/PERSEC or he is no longer in.
Some of the puzzle pieces might not fit exactly, but I can certainly see a picture forming based on this information.
Do I get a cookie if I'm right?
I'd venture to guess he is/was an 18B in 19th group which would be correct as they have elements inWA state and his facebook shows Bellevue,WA as his current city.
klr- initials or "killer"
b- 18B
929- ODA from 19th group.
References to Bragg, Q course, sources that would know of gag orders, his "team" are mostly cops, etc.
As I am unable to find a "Frank Plumb" on AKO, I'd venture toward guessing that is either an alias for FB data farming paranoia/PERSEC or he is no longer in.
Some of the puzzle pieces might not fit exactly, but I can certainly see a picture forming based on this information.
Do I get a cookie if I'm right?
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
they released the cops radio trans yesterday. One cop says "he's pointing a gun at me, shots fired". If thats the case its a done deal.
they released the cops radio trans yesterday. One cop says "he's pointing a gun at me, shots fired". If thats the case its a done deal.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
a Marine once sang: " Reportin' contact even if we don't get it, just so we can get our combat action ribbon".
Multiple witnesses quoted in various articles disagree with that radio transmission.
Certainly Costco has surveillance video of the incident. If that shows him pointing displaying/pointing/brandishing a firearm it will be a done deal.
Until then, it's some guy wearing a uniform making a claim that is contradicted by many.
a Marine once sang: " Reportin' contact even if we don't get it, just so we can get our combat action ribbon".
Multiple witnesses quoted in various articles disagree with that radio transmission.
Certainly Costco has surveillance video of the incident. If that shows him pointing displaying/pointing/brandishing a firearm it will be a done deal.
Until then, it's some guy wearing a uniform making a claim that is contradicted by many.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CavScout1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">a Marine once sang: " Reportin' contact even if we don't get it, just so we can get our combat action ribbon".
Multiple witnesses quoted in various articles disagree with that radio transmission.
Certainly Costco has surveillance video of the incident. If that shows him pointing displaying/pointing/brandishing a firearm it will be a done deal.
Until then, it's some guy wearing a uniform making a claim that is contradicted by many. </div></div>
I would believe the radio transmission over eye witness accounts. It has been proven that witnesses, although they mean well, generally get things wrong.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CavScout1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">a Marine once sang: " Reportin' contact even if we don't get it, just so we can get our combat action ribbon".
Multiple witnesses quoted in various articles disagree with that radio transmission.
Certainly Costco has surveillance video of the incident. If that shows him pointing displaying/pointing/brandishing a firearm it will be a done deal.
Until then, it's some guy wearing a uniform making a claim that is contradicted by many. </div></div>
I would believe the radio transmission over eye witness accounts. It has been proven that witnesses, although they mean well, generally get things wrong.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here we go again lol,
klrb929 writes,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well without being there...or seeing/hearing any evidence... </div></div>
So what you're saying is that like most of us you have ZERO knowledge of the incident,YET you feel qualified to make some sort of assessment as to what took place and WHY it took place? Riiiight!
klrb929 writes,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">oh i think that might be a possible threat ... lets dump a few mags into it and be sure</div></div>
Yes because that is what cops do. "Dump a few mags" into unknown threats, JUST to be sure. All day, everyday dude. Guess now you know why you can't get a fair deal on ammo.
klrb929 writes,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">and a shoot first ask questions later mentality and policies that support it</span></div></div>
Really? Where exactly do you see that mentality today in American law enforcement and more importantly what agencies have policies that support this type of mentality? Please feel free to provide links, sources, references to back your claims because I'm dying to know of any PD/SO that encourages its members to kill "innocent people" indiscriminately and at will.
klrb929 rants,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think law enforcement has gotten way way to militaristic recently...and events where innocent civilians getting waxed are getting more common and will continue to do so
</div></div>
You think? What exactly did you see, experience or hear first hand that got that little rusty gear in your head turning enough to the point that it was able to form a thought? Again, please feel free to provide us with instances from verifiable sources as to what you speak of. Especially those "kill em all" polices.
Now, I'm not saying that shit don't happen because it does. Do innocent people get killed? Yes, they do, policing is not a pretty profession and cops ARE human who make mistakes. Some of us are outright bad, corrupt and crooked but that only accounts for a tiny fraction. Most of us are hardworking, believe in what we do and want to provide for our families in an honest way.
Are cops looking to start their day off by racking up their body counts? Probably not. Cover up? In this day and age, in an agency as big as LVMPD, I highly doubt it. Their sheriff seems like he's up for re-election by the looks of all of the campaign posters. Do you honestly think that he is going to put that in jeopardy for a trio of "under trained personnel"? Highly doubtful. Stuff like that NORMALLY happens only in the movies.
Give this thing time. We don't have all the facts and there are a lot of pieces missing to the puzzle. At the end of the day, when those videos come out, we'll know the truth. Until then, give the conspiracy theories a rest.
Prayers for all involved. </div></div>
Pretty much sums it up. Glad to know this is how some people think of us po-po.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here we go again lol,
klrb929 writes,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well without being there...or seeing/hearing any evidence... </div></div>
So what you're saying is that like most of us you have ZERO knowledge of the incident,YET you feel qualified to make some sort of assessment as to what took place and WHY it took place? Riiiight!
klrb929 writes,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">oh i think that might be a possible threat ... lets dump a few mags into it and be sure</div></div>
Yes because that is what cops do. "Dump a few mags" into unknown threats, JUST to be sure. All day, everyday dude. Guess now you know why you can't get a fair deal on ammo.
klrb929 writes,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">and a shoot first ask questions later mentality and policies that support it</span></div></div>
Really? Where exactly do you see that mentality today in American law enforcement and more importantly what agencies have policies that support this type of mentality? Please feel free to provide links, sources, references to back your claims because I'm dying to know of any PD/SO that encourages its members to kill "innocent people" indiscriminately and at will.
klrb929 rants,
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think law enforcement has gotten way way to militaristic recently...and events where innocent civilians getting waxed are getting more common and will continue to do so
</div></div>
You think? What exactly did you see, experience or hear first hand that got that little rusty gear in your head turning enough to the point that it was able to form a thought? Again, please feel free to provide us with instances from verifiable sources as to what you speak of. Especially those "kill em all" polices.
Now, I'm not saying that shit don't happen because it does. Do innocent people get killed? Yes, they do, policing is not a pretty profession and cops ARE human who make mistakes. Some of us are outright bad, corrupt and crooked but that only accounts for a tiny fraction. Most of us are hardworking, believe in what we do and want to provide for our families in an honest way.
Are cops looking to start their day off by racking up their body counts? Probably not. Cover up? In this day and age, in an agency as big as LVMPD, I highly doubt it. Their sheriff seems like he's up for re-election by the looks of all of the campaign posters. Do you honestly think that he is going to put that in jeopardy for a trio of "under trained personnel"? Highly doubtful. Stuff like that NORMALLY happens only in the movies.
Give this thing time. We don't have all the facts and there are a lot of pieces missing to the puzzle. At the end of the day, when those videos come out, we'll know the truth. Until then, give the conspiracy theories a rest.
Prayers for all involved. </div></div>
Pretty much sums it up. Glad to know this is how some people think of us po-po.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paulosantos</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CavScout1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">a Marine once sang: " Reportin' contact even if we don't get it, just so we can get our combat action ribbon".
Multiple witnesses quoted in various articles disagree with that radio transmission.
Certainly Costco has surveillance video of the incident. If that shows him pointing displaying/pointing/brandishing a firearm it will be a done deal.
Until then, it's some guy wearing a uniform making a claim that is contradicted by many. </div></div>
I would believe the radio transmission over eye witness accounts. It has been proven that witnesses, although they mean well, generally get things wrong.</div></div>
Would you believe raw surveillance footage over a radio transmission?
I'll reserve actual judgement until that time. I'm just perplexed as to why a West Point grad with seemingly no issues would go from shopping in Costco to pulling a gun on police? I realize people don't always display overt behavior when they snap, some are completely cool headed from an outside perspective. Just doesn't make sense though over all.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paulosantos</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CavScout1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">a Marine once sang: " Reportin' contact even if we don't get it, just so we can get our combat action ribbon".
Multiple witnesses quoted in various articles disagree with that radio transmission.
Certainly Costco has surveillance video of the incident. If that shows him pointing displaying/pointing/brandishing a firearm it will be a done deal.
Until then, it's some guy wearing a uniform making a claim that is contradicted by many. </div></div>
I would believe the radio transmission over eye witness accounts. It has been proven that witnesses, although they mean well, generally get things wrong.</div></div>
Would you believe raw surveillance footage over a radio transmission?
I'll reserve actual judgement until that time. I'm just perplexed as to why a West Point grad with seemingly no issues would go from shopping in Costco to pulling a gun on police? I realize people don't always display overt behavior when they snap, some are completely cool headed from an outside perspective. Just doesn't make sense though over all.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
Texgator- Any idea what his previous branch of assignment was? Armor? Chem? etc.
Texgator- Any idea what his previous branch of assignment was? Armor? Chem? etc.
Re: West Point graduate killed in police shooting
"I'm just perplexed as to why a West Point grad with seemingly no issues would go from shopping in Costco to pulling a gun on police?"
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As are many people. But apparently a lot of folks are not at all perplexed as to why a cop with seemingly no issues would go from enforcing the law to randomly killing innocent citizens.
What perplexes me is why so many people persist in their beliefs that sensationalized media releases contain all of the facts, only the facts, and no biases. And if I read the articles correctly, the Medical Examiner - not the police - postponed the inquest. I see a lot of unanswered questions, but I don't see any sustainable conclusions yet.
"I'm just perplexed as to why a West Point grad with seemingly no issues would go from shopping in Costco to pulling a gun on police?"
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As are many people. But apparently a lot of folks are not at all perplexed as to why a cop with seemingly no issues would go from enforcing the law to randomly killing innocent citizens.
What perplexes me is why so many people persist in their beliefs that sensationalized media releases contain all of the facts, only the facts, and no biases. And if I read the articles correctly, the Medical Examiner - not the police - postponed the inquest. I see a lot of unanswered questions, but I don't see any sustainable conclusions yet.
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