For what those cost he could be well on his way for a setup from Heavybuffers.com
Remember he's trying to lose length not add it
All my big frame guns shoot softer than my small ones.
I know you said you were doing research in your reply to me.
But listen, the MORE you read up on this platform the less money you will waste.
You want a nice gun start ready every day from RELIABLE resources.
Tom- (95) from
https://forum.308ar.com ,can be a total dick but he knows what he's talking about when it comes to large frames.
I'm not being a dick, I'm trying to show you answers to stuff.
You may think you were doing research but in all actuality you tore something apart BEFORE you asked anything.
I don't think 35 bucks is to much for a real recoil pad. And there really are night and day differences between the OEM Magpul "pad" and the Limbsaver.....especially when it comes to the reduction in felt recoil as the OP asked about.... and the thickness of a recoil pad is no where near the difference between a adjustable collapsible stock and a rifle stock, .... IE just extend the stock one less notch.
So not sure why that matters.
For the OP, and others...seriously.. The suggested recoil pad is well worth the money. Far softer feeling at the shoulder.
And without being flippant, Ravenworks , have you tried one ?
A heavy buffer and a quality recoil spring is also part of the formula for a good running Large Frame AR... combine it with a Adj. GB , and anyone can get a very soft shooting Large Frame in no time flat.
Heck if I can do it,... darned near anyone can.
The starting price for Slash's setup is $115 for the carbine setup, the 2.5" 5.5oz buffer and his carbine recoil spring ( DPMS Pattern )
KAK sells a 2.5" 5.3oz 308 Carbine buffer for $55 ( pretty sure MidwayUSA sells the same thing for $40 ) , add a Tubbs 308 recoil spring for $20 bucks... and you just paid for the recoil pad.
Even a moderately priced .750 Click adjustable Adj. GB is available from Aero Precision... around $65, heck of a deal.
I completely agree about getting a Large Frame AR to shoot softer then a small frame... all mine are extremely soft shooters.
308 and 6.5CM, various barrel lengths, various conventional gas system lengths.
All of them use Tubbs Flatwire 308 recoil springs.. all run Adj. GB's .....both carbine patterns use 5.3oz'ish buffers and rifle patterns use 9.3oz buffers.
So I am making suggestions based on my experiments and conclusions, Not just throwing money at the firearm.
The OP can make up his own mind as to how much money he is looking to spend.. we all are here are just offering suggestions.
Ultimately, he might do one portion at a time, and then decide to try some more suggestions.
And As for wasting money trying to get his AR to shoot the way he would like .... Lol, ....AR's are bottomless money pits, heck even a box of FGMM ammo costs more online, then the recoil pad I mentioned.
If someone had the perfect formula.... they would be very rich.
Until then, a little tuning can reap huge benefits.