Who is using a Bix and Andy in a Vudoo?

[Shayne Ward]

I have been using TT Diamond 2 stages in all of my rifles now for awhile. I just had a TT stop working correctly in a Vudoo and after talking to my gunsmith briefly on the phone he recommended I try something different. I had no idea I was possibly leaving accuracy on the table with my trigger choice. He spoke highly of the Bix. I want to try one of their 2 stage triggers. Who has ran one and what sear did you use? Did you test any other sears? This will be on a Vudoo 360 to be clear and definitely will be a 2 stage.... Join me as I travel further down the rabbit hole lol

 

[littlepod]

What broke? I've seen both TT and Bix go down. Both required just adjusting the trigger pull weight a bit higher.

TT have been known to kind of fail in dirty environments. Flush it out with lighter fluid.

Most reliable two stage would be the Huber. That sits in my pack. They don't go as low as the TT diamond though. Usually 10oz/10oz.

 

[Shayne Ward]

The first stage of the TT seems to have a hang in it. I have tried cleaning it several times. Its feels like its gummed up. It will start working and then it will stop again. It fires upon closing the bolt. First stage isnt moving back into position. I love the TT but after talking to you know who he has me wondering what I am leaving on the table....

 

[nikonNUT]

Can't wait to hear your report on the B&A trigger! Gonna pick your brain on the tuner this Saturday (post match of course!).

 

[littlepod]

The first stage of the TT seems to have a hang in it. I have tried cleaning it several times. Its feels like its gummed up. It will start working and then it will stop again. It fires upon closing the bolt. First stage isnt moving back into position. I love the TT but after talking to you know who he has me wondering what I am leaving on the table....

The Bix, had way too many adjustment screws so I just wanted a more plug & play and not to worry about everything. You'll need a different sear height for the Bix, I forgot if it was the low/high. RimX is one of them, Vudoo is the other, neither use the standard medium.

Are you running your TT extremely low weight? like 4oz/4oz? On those extremes I've had it fire upon closing the bolt. I had to put the spring in a bit more. I run mine at 8oz/6oz.

 

[Shayne Ward]

The Bix, had way too many adjustment screws so I just wanted a more plug & play and not to worry about everything. You'll need a different sear height for the Bix, I forgot if it was the low/high. RimX is one of them, Vudoo is the other, neither use the standard medium.

Are you running your TT extremely low weight? like 4oz/4oz? On those extremes I've had it fire upon closing the bolt. I had to put the spring in a bit more. I run mine at 8oz/6oz.

I have tried adjusting it heavier with no help...

 

[JBoomhauer]

Yes, Tried the Bix for the accuracy reasons you mentioned above.

With the original sear, it would let the firing pin fall when closing the bolt. Changed it out to the high sear and once in a while had the same issue.

I called Bullet Central. They were super helpful and walked me thru setting everything back to original settings.

Show up to shoot a .22 match and the trigger is dead again. Swapped to a TT I had in the pack and it was fine.

I put the Bix in my CF match gun and it has also been fine.

The Bix and vudoo just did not play well together for me.

 

[littlepod]

Get a Huber!

 

[Shayne Ward]

I am happy with the TT…. Even though it’s down I am sure it’s my own fault. I think some cleaner seeped into it and is causing my issue. I was wanting to try the Bix because from what I am learning there is accuracy in the triggers. Guess I’ll just stick to what I have.

 

[nikonNUT]

I am happy with the TT…. Even though it’s down I am sure it’s my own fault. I think some cleaner seeped into it and is causing my issue. I was wanting to try the Bix because from what I am learning there is accuracy in the triggers. Guess I’ll just stick to what I have.

Per TT you can flush it out with lighter fluid and then blow it out with air to eliminate the "crusties"

 

[littlepod]

Per TT you can flush it out with lighter fluid and then blow it out with air to eliminate the "crusties"

Dried C4 doesn't seem to just come off when it touches lighter fluid. Might be interesting to see how to remove dried up crusted C4.

 

[nikonNUT]

Dried C4 doesn't seem to just come off when it touches lighter fluid. Might be interesting to see how to remove dried up crusted C4.

Hadn't considered that. I always cram a microfiber towel (covers the sear surface of the trigger) under my bore guide to catch any drips and the like. Considering its fairly inert nature (assumption) a long soak in DW to rehydrate the solids followed by naptha and compressed air maybe?

 

[spife7980]

You can just take a bix apart and wipe it clean and dry and inspect it for yourself. Its just three screws

 

[DLS]

Not on a Vudoo but have ran Bix n Andy two stage on my Bergara rimfire and center fire for a couple years now with no issues at all. Standard sear on both.

 

[red man]

I’ve got 2 vudoos, both had trigger tech diamonds but I recently swapped my main rifle to the bix tacsport pro single stage. Great trigger, I actually prefer it to the diamond but just by a hair. Easy to set up if you read the directions or watch their video, I’m using the sear sent with it and have never had an issue. Never had an issue with either TT just wanted to try something new.

Red

 

[Shayne Ward]

I’ve got 2 vudoos, both had trigger tech diamonds but I recently swapped my main rifle to the bix tacsport pro single stage. Great trigger, I actually prefer it to the diamond but just by a hair. Easy to set up if you read the directions or watch their video, I’m using the sear sent with it and have never had an issue. Never had an issue with either TT just wanted to try something new.

Red

Hmm.. that’s interesting after hearing and reading a couple bad experiences. Did you find the rifle to shoot better with the Bix?

 

[srt-4_uk]

I used a Tac Sport Pro (single stage, standard sear) on a Vudoo 360. No issues. Trigger weight was crazy low but swapped back to a TT since I wasn't a fan of the overtravel with the BnA.

 

[Defender32]

I have had a Bit for 2 years now. I have 2 of them in the Tac Sport 2 stage. Both have flat shoes. The Vudoo will use the standard seer height it comes with from the factory. Typical the RimX needs a Low. You can get a Box out of time and it will not fire. Ask me how I know!!!

There are quite a few videos out there on adjustment, Cleaning and what not. I don't think you will be disappointed.

 

[Dawhit]

Per correspondence with Vudoo, high sear is recommended for the 360.

Son has the 2 stage BnA in his 360. Been on the email list with Bullet Central for months waiting on a high sear.

With the medium sear that is in it, you can feel a little creep before it breaks with the trigger set at a very low pull weight.

Run a single stage Bix in a Rem 700 and it has no creep at the lowest pull weight setting. Have a 2 stage TT in my 360 and I prefer the Bix mainly because of the firm back wall you hit when the TT Dia breaks.

 

[JBoomhauer]

Per correspondence with Vudoo, high sear is recommended for the 360.

Son has the 2 stage BnA in his 360. Been on the email list with Bullet Central for months waiting on a high sear.

With the medium sear that is in it, you can feel a little creep before it breaks with the trigger set at a very low pull weight.

Run a single stage Bix in a Rem 700 and it has no creep at the lowest pull weight setting. Have a 2 stage TT in my 360 and I prefer the Bix mainly because of the firm back wall you hit when the TT Dia breaks.

I can confirm, MB also recommended high sear.

 

[red man]

Hmm.. that’s interesting after hearing and reading a couple bad experiences. Did you find the rifle to shoot better with the Bix?

I would say that I shoot better with the bix, but it’s hard to put a statistical value on. I have 1500 or more rounds on the bix without any issues. I don’t mind the little bit of overtravel vs the TT. I would recommend the Bix n Andy without hesitation, triggers are a personal preference though.

 

[jbell]

I have tried several examples of both the Bix TacSort Pro and Diamond 2 stage. I initially got a bad TT but they replaced it for me without question. I didn't like the Bix, it felt very vague to me almost mushy. To me the Bix reminds me of a Jewell in feel, which is to say it's shit. I want a trigger that I know exactly when it breaks and to me the TT is noticably more crisp than the Bix. I don't love the TT, but it's about as close to a good trigger as I can get that has a factory Remington 700 trigger housing shape. My personal favorite R700 trigger is the T7T, but due to the shape of the housing it doesn't fit in some chassis.

I know my thoughts are probably going to generate some hate, but if you have ever shot a truly good 2 stage trigger you will know what I'm talking about. Check out Feinwerkbau, Walther, Anschutz top end triggers and you will be that you can have a very light but still positive trigger.

In my opinion if you do not know exactly when the shot is going to break you are leaving something on the precision table.

On the trigger vs rimfire action topic I have found the Vudoo cocking piece design to be MUCH more tolerant of sear height and design than the Rim X.

 

[Kahrhart63]

I am running a bix competition trigger in my rimx that I use for Benchrest. I run it at half ounce. Never had a nicer trigger. Wanting to try the tac sport in my 2 vudoos.

 

[Fowlmaster]

You need the high sear. Bix are my preferred trigger but they are not without issues. The best part is there is no wall after the brake and you can take them apart for cleaning. Now the feel of a bix and a TT is not similar and it’s kind of an individuals preference.

 

[MdQT]

Is there a difference for sear height for the Gen 2 Vudoo vs the 360?