Rifle Scopes Why do so many used USO scopes show up for sale?

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Not to be insolent, insulting or disrespectful to anyone, but I've been noticing for a while now that there seem to be lots of USO scopes that pop up for sale in the Optics For Sale section of the site. Is there a specific reason for this? Is there something I don't know that I should? I've been looking into getting one and I want to be sure...

Just curious
 
Re: Why do so many used USO scopes show up for sale?

Peoples interests and directions change, they just need the cash, or they just need/want something different. I have three USO scopes and enjoy them just as much as when I got em. I don't think that it means there is any quality issues or lack of satisfaction with the scopes.
 
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expensive, custom-made scope may no longer fit the bill. If they've sold off a rifle then the scope may not be useful to them anymore.

is it anywhere near tax time? its ending the year, alot of people may need the cash.
 
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What you should also notice is that these scopes change hands, go from shooter to shooter and keep on ticking. They sell fast, hold value well and you don't see people bitching about or bashing them. Have a used one myself. The guy just wanted to try a hensoldt and needed the cash boost to get there. . Zero issues with the USO. As I also have zero issues, love it. Long as hell with the sunshade. . . But hey, pick your battles.
 
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They are a pretty solid investment... one that most of us dont absorb in a few days.

So if cash is tight and the USO is on the bottom of your priority list then no reason to let it collect dust when its resale value is still good.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: procovert45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">sometimes a $3000 bill will just burn a hole in a fellas pocket </div></div>

True, some people (like me, but I did it anyway) can't afford to buy a piece of glass for the equivalent price of a decent used car. But boy, it feels pretty damn nice to see what you firing at so clearly and know you can depend on the dope you dialed to be accurate. You almost forget that your back pocket is about a 1/2lb lighter than it used to be. . .
 
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I never missed and said , "I just saw it to good". I think people sell them as a
quick way to raise cash for what ever reason. A lot of people seem to order them
and when they take delivery have changed directions and off them while still
brand new. That certainly rules out any quality issues being involved in the decision.
 
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I think the Hide has the largest target group of buyers anywhere. New and used. For all ultra high end toys. All my nicest stuff was researched here and bought here, if used. There is not a better classified section anywhere, so what you see here normally represents the very top shelf in used tactical equipment, period.
Just my 2 cents.-Rob
 
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There are plenty of guys who just jump around using various scopes. Even if you aren't the first guy to buy the USO (read new) you still have their backing if anything were to happen. Don't be worried about getting one used. Great company to deal with.
Chad
 
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I sold one, but did it out of regret. It just bugged me that I didn't get some of the options that I should have. I sold it and then ordered another one the way I should have ordered it in the first place.
 
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Fear not. USO's are GTG...

There's lots of NF scopes that hit the FS section as well, and they are good scopes.

Like it's been said, people want different things, and there's a huge chunk of cash they can get by slinging a scope out.

Or maybe the USO just wasn't for them, different strokes for different folks... I like NF scopes, and the F1 was a good scope, just wasn't for me. Doesn't mean it was a bad piece of kit.
 
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I have sold 4 USO scopes and still own 2. I sold because my projects or needs changed for that specific time. The great thing about USO is that they fix their scopes no matter who bought them initially. Makes buying a USO a trouble-free transaction. You have piece of mind. I will likely own another in the not too distant future.
 
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My guess is because like every other scope sometimes the owner just needs to sell.

As for the uso's always being on this site. Can you think of any other place? it's where the uso fanboys are.
Your always going to up the chances for a sale when you go where the fans of that product are.
 
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USO are excellent quality. As a personal example, that's part of my dilemma in a "different direction" as others have mentioned above. I have an SN4S which would be just fine for my M4 setup. The trouble is, it being heavy duty, that it is too thick to clear my rear sight. Partially my fault as I wanted to stay with a fixed instead of folding. I also have an ELCAN Specter OS3 which fits perfectly. But, I still like the USO. I don't need both as they are somewhat redundant but I am faced with either buying a different - read that expensive (as in LaRue) - mount for the USO, change sights, or go to the prism sight which fits. I go into this detail to show that there's not a negative reason for such scopes showing up, it is, as others have pointed out a result of changing requirements, though the USOs are so good it's a hard choice.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ol Rob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think the Hide has the largest target group of buyers anywhere. New and used. For all ultra high end toys. All my nicest stuff was researched here and bought here, if used. There is not a better classified section anywhere, so what you see here normally represents the very top shelf in used tactical equipment, period.
Just my 2 cents.-Rob </div></div>

That's a Big +1 for me
 
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I agree with this as well. Same for S&B, PH, GAP, AI, DTA. Find me another board where you can find these items for sale. And I believe your only going to find a buyer in an educated market (the hide).
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ol Rob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think the Hide has the largest target group of buyers anywhere. New and used. For all ultra high end toys. All my nicest stuff was researched here and bought here, if used. There is not a better classified section anywhere, so what you see here normally represents the very top shelf in used tactical equipment, period.
Just my 2 cents.-Rob</div></div>
 
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Lately I would say probably 75% (rough estimate) of the USO's I see in the Classified are MOA scopes. With the Mil/Mil trend picking up speed I would guess a lot of guys are changing over. Some crazy good deals for MOA shooters.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sapper524</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lately I would say probably 75% (rough estimate) of the USO's I see in the Classified are MOA scopes. With the Mil/Mil trend picking up speed I would guess a lot of guys are changing over. Some crazy good deals for MOA shooters. </div></div>

Yep, I just purchased a new USO and was looking at every used USO that came through. The vast majority are MOA. Very few MIL scopes for sale.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sapper524</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lately I would say probably 75% (rough estimate) of the USO's I see in the Classified are MOA scopes. With the Mil/Mil trend picking up speed I would guess a lot of guys are changing over. Some crazy good deals for MOA shooters.</div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sapper524</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lately I would say probably 75% (rough estimate) of the USO's I see in the Classified are MOA scopes. With the Mil/Mil trend picking up speed I would guess a lot of guys are changing over. Some crazy good deals for MOA shooters. </div></div>

Yep, I just purchased a new USO and was looking at every used USO that came through. The vast majority are MOA. Very few MIL scopes for sale.</div></div>
I noticed that too.

Like I said, nothing against USO. Just curious. Wanted to make sure I was making the right decision with my $2300.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USACS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Like I said, nothing against USO. Just curious. Wanted to make sure I was making the right decision with my $2300. </div></div>

My first USO showed up last week. Definitely worth it! This thing is awesome! My new NF got here today, and trust me man- you'll love that USO
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USACS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Like I said, nothing against USO. Just curious. Wanted to make sure I was making the right decision with my $2300. </div></div>

My first USO showed up last week. Definitely worth it! This thing is awesome! My new NF got here today, and trust me man- you'll love that USO
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How do the two compare? Is the USO glass much better?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USACS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
How do the two compare? Is the USO glass much better? </div></div>

Haven't had them both at the range yet. Looking out my window, to my eyes, the USO looks quite a bit nicer. By "nicer" I mean it's a little brighter (even with a 44mm objective vs the NF's 56), the colors seem more pronounced, and the image looks deeper. Now I'm first to admit I'm no optic specialist and that this is all arbitrary bullshit, that could be 100% different if you asked someone else, but I do think the glass in the USO is a noticeable step up from the NF.

But, I think the real (quantifiable) difference is when you're looking at the knobs and reticles. USO has better reticles, and I like their knobs more. Those 2 items alone would sell me on the USO. I also strongly prefer the FFP over SFP. I realize NF has an FFP scope, but the reticle was too thick for me. I wish you were closer and I'd let you use both. I went to school in Brookings SD (SDSU!) but am back in Washington state now.
 
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I agree with Ol Rob, the hide has a high concentration of USO users and it is a great place to buy or sell a used one. I have two, a 1.8x10 and a MST-100, neither or which will be for sale any time soon, great scopes. Also have 2 S&Bs and the USOs are batting on a pretty level playing field. We can split hairs, but I am completely sold on the whole USO product and customer service, which is the best I have ever had on any product I have ever bought.

Merlinn
 
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The one USO I looked thru trumped all the several different NF's I have looked thru....just sayin'. Liked the knobs and reticle better too. Take it for what it's worth. But In my humble and honest opinion, I would put USO a step above NF.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 71firebird400</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USACS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
How do the two compare? Is the USO glass much better? </div></div>

Haven't had them both at the range yet. Looking out my window, to my eyes, the USO looks quite a bit nicer. By "nicer" I mean it's a little brighter (even with a 44mm objective vs the NF's 56), the colors seem more pronounced, and the image looks deeper. Now I'm first to admit I'm no optic specialist and that this is all arbitrary bullshit, that could be 100% different if you asked someone else, but I do think the glass in the USO is a noticeable step up from the NF.

But, I think the real (quantifiable) difference is when you're looking at the knobs and reticles. USO has better reticles, and I like their knobs more. Those 2 items alone would sell me on the USO. I also strongly prefer the FFP over SFP. I realize NF has an FFP scope, but the reticle was too thick for me. I wish you were closer and I'd let you use both. I went to school in Brookings SD (SDSU!) but am back in Washington state now. </div></div>
Thanks, this is very encouraging for me. I have been pondering many options, but I've kept coming back to the USO.
Looking at a SN-3 3.2-17x58mm with milrad EREK, milrad windage, Milscale MPR reticle and illumination (can't decide between red and green. No clue on the difference?)

And funny that you mention Brookings. I'll be going through Brookings on Wednesday. Going on the annual pheasant hunting trip this weekend in SD. I hunt around the Huron area, which is just west of Brookings.
 
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I had a roommate from Huron, there's a cool old railroad roundhouse there! Brookings was a great town, and I enjoyed my time in the Midwest. There is an excellent gun shop just across the border in I believe Big Lake, MN called Kjergaard's Sporting Goods. If you're driving through its a neat place to see. The store itself is built next to a guys farmhouse, so kind of a weird experience walking in there the first time but they're good people. Unfortunately they don't have much for nice scopes, but typically have a TRG or Barret kickin around.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USACS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not to be insolent, insulting or disrespectful to anyone, but I've been noticing for a while now that there seem to be lots of USO scopes that pop up for sale in the Optics For Sale section of the site. Is there a specific reason for this? Is there something I don't know that I should? I've been looking into getting one and I want to be sure...

Just curious </div></div>

A great number of folks here are wanting to buy their way into, having toys just like, and trying to be just like the Military. You see it everyday at/in gun shops, shows, bars, and on here.

The bulk of the "I have to have that" never gets/see's field use other than from the trunk to the bench or shooting mat. When the gear debates start, the camps square off and the "Winning" side, sells. Like the old days of NASCAR, win on Sunday sell on Monday.

The question you have to ask is Do I really Need a 8K HP engine to travel to the store 1.2 miles away, my guess is no, but you'll damn sure look Cool an folks of lesser ability will be asking you the questions. Which might be the complete story, less your share of whats being spent.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USACS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just wanted to make sure, since I've never looked through one of these before. No one around here has a USO. </div></div>

Once you first get your hands on a USO they're addicting...built like they could, and have, survived a war. I have one and a second on the way. Maybe one day people wake up and realize they have $6K+ or more in optics in their safe. I think about the investment $$ all the time but wouldn't go any other way. There aren't any that I've seen around here either which explains why people just sit and stare at it when I'm at the range.

One thing I've noticed is that the ones for sale are largely MOA/MOA and the current trend towards MIL/MIL may be driving some of those sales.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BattleAxe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USACS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just wanted to make sure, since I've never looked through one of these before. No one around here has a USO. </div></div>

Once you first get your hands on a USO they're addicting...built like they could (and have) survive a war. I have one and a second on the way. Maybe one day people wake up and realize they have $6K+ or more in optics in their safe. I think about the investment $$ all the time but wouldn't go any other way. There aren't any that I've seen around here either which explains why people just sit and stare at it when I'm at the range.

One thing I've noticed is that the ones for sale are largely MOA/MOA and the current trend towards MIL/MIL may be driving some of those sales. </div></div>6k in two scopes
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KnabstrupperUSA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">6k in two scopes
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No. 5k in USO's. Factor in an EOTech and various mounts and I have around 6K in optics. One of the reasons my safe is bolted securely to a concrete slab and I feed my Doberman raw meat
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
A great number of folks here are wanting to buy their way into, having toys just like, and trying to be just like the Military. You see it everyday at/in gun shops, shows, bars, and on here.

The bulk of the "I have to have that" never gets/see's field use other than from the trunk to the bench or shooting mat. When the gear debates start, the camps square off and the "Winning" side, sells. Like the old days of NASCAR, win on Sunday sell on Monday.

The question you have to ask is Do I really Need a 8K HP engine to travel to the store 1.2 miles away, my guess is no, but you'll damn sure look Cool an folks of lesser ability will be asking you the questions. Which might be the complete story, less your share of whats being spent.</div></div>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reading Comprehension an thinking out of the box, is not your long suit is it?
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To be fair, you kind of just went off on a tangent and didn't really give a solid answer. I wasn't commenting on your perspicacity.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A great number of folks here are wanting to buy their way into, having toys just like, and trying to be just like the Military. You see it everyday at/in gun shops, shows, bars, and on here.

The bulk of the "I have to have that" never gets/see's field use other than from the trunk to the bench or shooting mat. When the gear debates start, the camps square off and the "Winning" side, sells. Like the old days of NASCAR, win on Sunday sell on Monday.

The question you have to ask is Do I really Need a 8K HP engine to travel to the store 1.2 miles away, my guess is no, but you'll damn sure look Cool an folks of lesser ability will be asking you the questions. Which might be the complete story, less your share of whats being spent. </div></div>

Or on the flip side...some people just want the best they can afford so if their life ever depends on the performance of their equipment, it won't fail them.

Sort of like the money you've dumped into your bolt guns, when really a out-of-the-box Remy 700 would have sufficed. You can...so you did.
 
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No tangent at all.
Once you have been here awhile you'll understand.
Reread the old and I mean old, glass an Fieldcraft threads, you might see a pattern.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BattleAxe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gunfighter14e2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A great number of folks here are wanting to buy their way into, having toys just like, and trying to be just like the Military. You see it everyday at/in gun shops, shows, bars, and on here.

The bulk of the "I have to have that" never gets/see's field use other than from the trunk to the bench or shooting mat. When the gear debates start, the camps square off and the "Winning" side, sells. Like the old days of NASCAR, win on Sunday sell on Monday.

The question you have to ask is Do I really Need a 8K HP engine to travel to the store 1.2 miles away, my guess is no, but you'll damn sure look Cool an folks of lesser ability will be asking you the questions. Which might be the complete story, less your share of whats being spent. </div></div>

Or on the flip side...some people just want the best they can afford so if their life ever depends on the performance of their equipment, it won't fail them.

Sort of like the money you've dumped into your bolt guns, when really a Remy 700 would have sufficed.</div></div>
Exactly. By the logic presented, I should theoretically only need a Tasco 3-9x40 blister-pack scope. But that doesn't mean that it's going to be a good purchase. What BattleAxe pointed out is exactly the issue at hand- I want the best for my money, and I need to be able to depend on my optics. Hence my question about the scopes. If I'm popping down $2300 of my own money, I need to know it's a solid investment. I'm not doing it to be cool or get people to stroke my ego at the range.

The scope that I buy will ultimately make its way onto an operational sniper rifle weapon system.


If you feel that USO is not up to snuff, Gunfighter, I would most certainly welcome your observations and offerings. I would just ask that you please provide some sort of documentation or coherent reasoning, other than a NASCAR metaphor. As you stated, there are old threads about them. Perhaps you could locate a couple and post them here to assert your position. I would be much more apt to understanding your comments then, and it would very much serve to more effectively and coherently answer the honest question that I asked.
If you had done so in the first place, it could have eliminated the opportunity for me to post the smartass reply that I did.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USACS</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> What BattleAxe pointed out is exactly the issue at hand- I want the best for my money, and I need to be able to depend on my optics. </div></div>

This becomes especially important when you get into big bore rifles like .338 Lapua, .50, etc. My Barret can likely eat scopes for lunch and I only want to feed it once.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BattleAxe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Or on the flip side...some people just want the best they can afford so if their life ever depends on the performance of their equipment, it won't fail them.

Sort of like the money you've dumped into your bolt guns, when really a out-of-the-box Remy 700 would have sufficed. </div></div>

I've ask a number of sellers why they are selling, the bulk are changing to Mil/Mil. With USO's it's cheaper to sell and re-buy than have the reticle changed, do to the way their built.

You have to understand one thing, the bulk of those here have never been, or ever are going to, but they want what is used on todays battlefield or even back in the V/N era. Safe queens abound with many, and that's fine.

Guys move their gear up, sideways, an down, but gear will never save a bad plan, for if it did, A-stan and other places would not last as long. Tactics win wars, not gear.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USACS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you feel that USO is not up to snuff, Gunfighter, I would most certainly welcome your observations and offerings. I would just ask that you please provide some sort of documentation or coherent reasoning, other than a NASCAR metaphor. As you stated, there are old threads about them. Perhaps you could locate a couple and post them here to assert your position. I would be much more apt to understanding your comments then, and it would very much serve to more effectively and coherently answer the honest question that I asked.
If you had done so in the first place, it could have eliminated the opportunity for me to post the smartass reply that I did. </div></div>

As a matter of fact, if you would do more reading than posting you would find I own nothing but IPHY USO SN-3's that set on all 3 of my bolt sticks. I own no safe queens, ask around.

Read up on what I have recommended in glass over the years, once you have done that,... reread what I said.




 
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People sell USO scopes, Gap rifles, AI rifles, etc, etc...
Because they are worth it. Even used(sometimes abused) they are a proven product and worth selling. People will buy them for good money, and love them....

I bought my USO Canadian here, used, I love it.
 
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USO is all about customization and its durability. Who cares why, good product, good deal, grab it if it suits the build you had in mind.

It's always a good investment to buy something that you can use, and still holds good value when tough time comes, that you have to sell it for some quick cash.