Why so many ziess s3 for sale?

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Why are we seeing so many ziess s3 for sale? Are they not holding up and tracking? Is the glass not that great what would they compare with? Also seems to be a fair amount of zco forsale what’s the deal with so many of them being sold? Maybe someone just spent to much money on an impulse buy as a new shooter and they just don’t want to sit in that much money invested in a scope. I’m looking to upgrade my optics a couple of hunting with longer shots, and some more for dialing shooting long range steel and PRs nrl style shooting.
 
This time of year, it’s just people swapping stuff around between seasons. Sometimes it’s in anticipation of something new to drop at SHOT, or people just being able to resist trying something else.

Great time to find a deal on something. I have a couple, they punch above their price point IMO. I have. Mine track perfectly and the glass is great.
 
Why are we seeing so many ziess s3 for sale? Are they not holding up and tracking? Is the glass not that great what would they compare with? Also seems to be a fair amount of zco forsale what’s the deal with so many of them being sold? Maybe someone just spent to much money on an impulse buy as a new shooter and they just don’t want to sit in that much money invested in a scope. I’m looking to upgrade my optics a couple of hunting with longer shots, and some more for dialing shooting long range steel and PRs nrl style shooting.
It’s part of the natural cycle of “Buy once, cry once, get bored, get curious, repeat.”

-Stan
 
My new year resolution was to not buy any new chassis or actions this year.
It lasted a week …
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Short answer: Kahles 540i.

TLDR answer: Here's what's happening and trust me when i say this because I'm an internet expert. Let's say you can afford to pay $2400 for a scope and you did that two years ago when the S3 released and that scope is now worth $1600 on the exchange. You can upgrade to a $4000 scope this year while spending that same $2.4k bi-annual scope budget if you sell your S3. Obviously this logic fails to consider that the new $4000 scope budget (new cash + sale cash) this year actually cost $4800 with the loss you took by selling your "old" scope. Now imagine your normal $2.4k budget went up this year from two years ago because you got a raise so this year's new cash budget is $3k. You just traded up your S3 for the new Kahles 5-40x and it "only cost" $3k new cash since the $1600 "doesn't count." Paying $3k for a $4500 scope is over 30% off retail price and a great deal right? It's a phantom discount but mentally it's a discount nonetheless and honestly one I use to make myself feel better for spending money I don't need to spend.

The reason a lot of S3 scopes are hitting the market is because they were popular and are sitting on top of the rifles sellers want the new scope on (likely their best rifle). Which would then imply that the S3 is actually a good scope because it was sitting on people's best rifles since 2022-23 when these were released. Buddy has an S3 and I have an S5. Great scopes from Zeiss. If you don't mind running an iPhone 11 when the 16s are out like me, picking up two years agos shiny new scope is the way to go. Get ya an S3 at a real discount, let the early adopters pay to find the bugs in this years new scopes, and in the meantime keep enjoying your Razor Gen 2.
 
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I have a S3 up for sale now and it has nothing to do with the Kahles 540i. I wouldn’t buy one whether I had an S3 for sale or not. Didn’t know they had a new scope out and never been a fan of their scopes. You sure are making a huge assumptions with that post. Seems like someone is in love with the new Kahles and projecting. Lol

Oh and I have a IPhone 7. 😊😂
 
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Short answer: Kahles 540i.

TLDR answer: Here's what's happening and trust me when i say this because I'm an internet expert. Let's say you can afford to pay $2400 for a scope and you did that two years ago when the S3 released and that scope is now worth $1600 on the exchange. You can upgrade to a $4000 scope this year while spending that same $2.4k bi-annual scope budget if you sell your S3. Obviously this logic fails to consider that the new $4000 scope budget (new cash + sale cash) this year actually cost $4800 with the loss you took by selling your "old" scope. Now imagine your normal $2.4k budget went up this year from two years ago because you got a raise so this year's new cash budget is $3k. You just traded up your S3 for the new Kahles 5-40x and it "only cost" $3k new cash since the $1600 "doesn't count." Paying $3k for a $4500 scope is over 30% off retail price and a great deal right? It's a phantom discount but mentally it's a discount nonetheless and honestly one I use to make myself feel better for spending money I don't need to spend.

The reason a lot of S3 scopes are hitting the market is because they were popular and are sitting on top of the rifles sellers want the new scope on (likely their best rifle). Which would then imply that the S3 is actually a good scope because it was sitting on people's best rifles since 2022-23 when these were released. Buddy has an S3 and I have an S5. Great scopes from Zeiss. If you don't mind running an iPhone 11 when the 16s are out like me, picking up two years agos shiny new scope is the way to go. Get ya an S3 at a real discount, let the early adopters pay to find the bugs in this years new scopes, and in the meantime keep enjoying your Razor Gen 2.

I didn't know I was allowed to sell things?

I just keep spending more buying more rifles which need more scopes. Sometimes I buy scopes and then need to build a rifle to suit.

You mean to tell me guys don't have whole rooms full of guns?
 
I have a S3 up for sale now and it has nothing to do with the Kahles 540i. I wouldn’t buy one whether I had an S3 for sale or not. Didn’t know they had a new scope out and never been a fan of their scopes. You sure are making a huge assumptions with that post. Seems like someone is in love with the new Kahles and projecting. Lol

Oh and I have a IPhone 7. 😊😂
Nah, I'm not in love with the 540i. Never even owned a Kahles before. Won't own one either because I prefer MOgAy and everything is MIL these days. And those weren't huge assumptions, I told you I'm an internet expert, so those are facts. Don't make me make a meme to prove it. ;)
 
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Why are we seeing so many ziess s3 for sale? Are they not holding up and tracking? Is the glass not that great what would they compare with? Also seems to be a fair amount of zco forsale what’s the deal with so many of them being sold? Maybe someone just spent to much money on an impulse buy as a new shooter and they just don’t want to sit in that much money invested in a scope. I’m looking to upgrade my optics a couple of hunting with longer shots, and some more for dialing shooting long range steel and PRs nrl style shooting.
I've got an S3 4-25 that I use for PRS and it's a great scope. If you want it for hunting it is on the heavy side. That might not matter to you though.
 
I have 3 of the zeiss S3 (two 6-36 and one 4-25) and I also have a number of “higher end” scopes and there’s no question the S3 is punching way above its price point. I’m an optics whore so I’m constantly looking to acquire new scopes, sometimes I’ll sell an old scope to ease the pain… the problem with the S3’s selling used close to 1500 is I’m less likely to sell one and more likely to buy more 😂.
 
I know I am showing my lack of skill/knowledge here, but how do you adjust the parallax with no real reference marks?
You have a shot a 500yd, then 100, then 800.... how do you adjust parallax quickly?

I know the yardage marks on scopes are not dead on, but it gives you a reference and it becomes part of you dope to know, say a 500yd shot is just past the 500 parallax mark or whatever.....

I was ready to buy an S3 last year, but this gave me pause.
I'm a novice and don't compete.
 
I know I am showing my lack of skill/knowledge here, but how do you adjust the parallax with no real reference marks?
You have a shot a 500yd, then 100, then 800.... how do you adjust parallax quickly?

I know the yardage marks on scopes are not dead on, but it gives you a reference and it becomes part of you dope to know, say a 500yd shot is just past the 500 parallax mark or whatever.....

I was ready to buy an S3 last year, but this gave me pause.
I'm a novice and don't compete.

Parallax doesn’t generally line up with yardage anyways. It’s more so a ball park. Everyone’s eyes are different.
 
I know I am showing my lack of skill/knowledge here, but how do you adjust the parallax with no real reference marks?
You have a shot a 500yd, then 100, then 800.... how do you adjust parallax quickly?

I know the yardage marks on scopes are not dead on, but it gives you a reference and it becomes part of you dope to know, say a 500yd shot is just past the 500 parallax mark or whatever.....

I was ready to buy an S3 last year, but this gave me pause.
I'm a novice and don't compete.

You spin it until it’s clear and then do a quick parallax check. Even with scopes with numbers that is how I do it as the numbers rarely line up correctly. You can always just mark it yourself if it bothers you that much.
 
I understand all that. In a competition are you going to sit there and play with it?
With any kind of reference, numbers, letters, emoji, you could know where to set it for different distances with practice just like your drops.
A graduated line means you can't set it quickly to a known spot it would seem to me.

But I digress. Guess it's just not for me...
 
I understand all that. In a competition are you going to sit there and play with it?
With any kind of reference, numbers, letters, emoji, you could know where to set it for different distances with practice just like your drops.
A graduated line means you can't set it quickly to a known spot it would seem to me.

But I digress. Guess it's just not for me...

No you are way overthinking it. The more you use it the less you see an issue. As I said if you are that worried then just use a marker and mark you spots but it’s not needed.
 
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I understand all that. In a competition are you going to sit there and play with it?
With any kind of reference, numbers, letters, emoji, you could know where to set it for different distances with practice just like your drops.
A graduated line means you can't set it quickly to a known spot it would seem to me.

But I digress. Guess it's just not for me...
I generally set it in the middle and dont mess with it the entire rest of the comp. Zoomed out at 15-20x there isnt enough parallax difference for me from 300-1k to find a tangible difference.

Now, obviously if its a kyl all at the same distance or whatever Ill take a split second to verify but its almost always fine. Not the reason I miss.
 
I generally set it in the middle and dont mess with it the entire rest of the comp. Zoomed out at 15-20x there isnt enough parallax difference for me from 300-1k to find a tangible difference.

Now, obviously if its a kyl all at the same distance or whatever Ill take a split second to verify but its almost always fine. Not the reason I miss.

This.

When I was shooting matches, I found that I rarely touched the parallax - didn't need to. I would pretty much even forget I had that feature.

My parallax would typically be set around the ~600 yard mark, give or take.
 
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