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pmclaine

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    Well it is....

    A Winchester 75T at 50 yards with CMP surplus Remington .22 LR, A23 targets....

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    Before....

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    After 25 rounds each target.

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    :D
     
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    nice shooting ,,I Love shooting the A23/5 targets with my old smallbore rifles and aperture sights,,my favorite that I own is a 1957 Brno Model #4 ,off a rest it will shoot 200/20x targets,,from position it is up to the shooter,

    it is a pitiful shame that no American smallbores are being made like they were in the 40s 50s and 60s
     
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    When I ran the Alaska NG Marksmanship unit we had a few Win. Model 75s, (as well as Model 52s). Some of the 75s were junk, but we had some good ones also that shot every bit as good as the Model 52s.

    Being lighter, we rigged some M-72s with slings and issued them to Units as Biathlon Rifles.

    I'm waiting for a good one to pop up on the CMP's Auction Site.

    I dont know what happen to all of Alaska's 75s, When I left the idiot who replaced me turned in all the good stuff I spent years getting for the Unit. I doubt they even have a small bore program any more.

    EDIT:

    Speak of the devil I just went to the auction site after posting this.

    http://cmpauction.thecmp.org/detail.asp?id=4020&n=Winchester-Model-75

    Lets see how much its gonna cost me.
     
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    It's a good little rifle but for guys doing positional match shooting it might be considered a little light.

    Im guessing it was the thrifty mans 52 or a teenagers first match rifle.

    Shooting it the other day I was finding the pistol grip just a little small for a three finger grasp.

    A rifle I'm glad to own. Was thinking it would be good to have when the kids transition from the "Boys rifle". My club runs a fun biathalon. You can ski, snowshoe, run or walk the course. I want to play at some point and will use this rifle.
     
    The front is the Winchester in house built sight with the inserts using a half moon seat that you cant find after market parts for. It only has three or four inserts and I might be missing a skinny post or something like that.

    For shooting this I used a circle aperture front that leaves a nice even thin line of white around the A23.

    The rear is a Redfield peep. No idea what size aperture.
     
    What front/rear sight combination?

    The orginal Model 75 consisted with a blade front dovetailed into the barrel and a Lyman 57E aperture rear.

    Interesting note: The M-75 continued in use until 1993. Odd. Ass I said I ran the Alaska National Guard Marksmanship Unit. We had 75s (as well as others). I retired in '92 and idiot that replaced me turned in all the stuff I spent years getting for the Unit.

    Last time I visited the Unit he had a box full of mixed sights, all sorts, to be turned in as scrap. Only 22 Rifles he kept were the H&R Model 12s (5200s) but I think their sights were in the box.

    I should have just taken the so called scrap.

    I was not a happy camper.
     
    I've had one for quite a while. Sadly, I don't shoot it often. I prefer my 513T. Somebody made/modified the stock. I installed the optic.

    Those look like some nice weaver scopes.

    Is that a 10X Weaver in the middle of the three?

    I ran a Weaver from El Paso on my M40A1 while waiting for my USO MST100 to be built/delivered. The Weaver is a great scope and being able to remove parallax has it performing better than the USO/Unertl repro as long as staying at one range.

    Is your 75T factory grooved for the scope rings or were the rings attached by some other means? I understand the grooved receivers to be late in production and the rarer of 75 types.
     
    The orginal Model 75 consisted with a blade front dovetailed into the barrel and a Lyman 57E aperture rear.

    Interesting note: The M-75 continued in use until 1993. Odd. Ass I said I ran the Alaska National Guard Marksmanship Unit. We had 75s (as well as others). I retired in '92 and idiot that replaced me turned in all the stuff I spent years getting for the Unit.

    Last time I visited the Unit he had a box full of mixed sights, all sorts, to be turned in as scrap. Only 22 Rifles he kept were the H&R Model 12s (5200s) but I think their sights were in the box.

    I should have just taken the so called scrap.

    I was not a happy camper.

    I have a buddy in a guard unit.

    Its good to have an enthusiast buddy in a guard unit when it comes time for a unit to get light for inspection.
     
    I had mine drilled and tapped since it was missing original stock and rear aperture. Still has the mailbox shaped front sight.

    The two scopes are both Weaver K10-60B's. One has a dot fine crosshair... the other just a fine crosshair.

    They usually get tossed around from rifle to rifle as the need arises when a new/better rifle steels some slightly better optic.

    Yes K10-60B. B model being the good one that wont shift when you change the parallax. Great scope.

    I traded mine for a 4X Kollmorgen I saw at my local gun store. Its still sitting at the store I almost want to buy it back iand just keep it in reserve t was such a good scope.
     
    I loaned out my Weaver T10 off my 513T (also pictured) last week to a buddy's dad so he could shoot our first PRS rimfire match. We worked hard cleaning and tweaking his horrid shooting 550-1.

    Freefloated it, swapped out his 4X Bushnell, added a adapter rail and some pool noodle and a stock pouch and some ammo also. Took it from 3" at 50yds to about .75". Not great...but immensely better than it was.

    I also spun up three other shooters and got there gear squared away. We all were in the top 8 of 33 shooters. My 513T got a old Mark 4 temporarily. I wound up shooting 4th place. I was happy.

    I tried my Weaver T-10 in Small Bore on my H&R Model 5200 (M12). Wasn't impressed so it went on my Model 70 300 WM 1000 yard Any-Rifle/Any Sight Rifle.

    For glass for my H&R I used a 24 X Remington Scope. The Remington is similar to the Unertl in mounting but I modified mine a bit
    . With that set up and Eley 10-X ammo you'd have to be drunk not to clean the ISU English Match Targets.

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    I think the Remington Scope is better then the Unertl when it comes to re-positioning after each shot. It doesn't slide as well under recoil, as I found out the hard way when I tried it on my Rem 700 Varmint rifle, you'll get a scope cut every time. Its heavier then the Unertl.
     
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    Here's my 75

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    It might be the most accurate rimfire I own..consistent .3's and occasionally better or worse depending upon operator error. It LOVES a particular lot of center x that I've got for it!

    I bought it with the original sights but someone had been drilling on it in a couple different places so i had Kevin at Montour County Rifles make up a custom rail and drill/tap it for that plus fill all the other holes, stuck a Bushy 4.5-14 on it and haven't looked back
     
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