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Yeah, if his accusations don't start to stick, the pressure to replace his laptop with an Etch-a-Sketch is going to be strong.
I got to think he has something.
I don't doubt the accusation, Im sure POS (formerly POTUS but always POS) used the full underhanded, illegal power of his office to do everything to screw the country same as he is currently doing now but.....you cant release this in a Tweet without soon coming out with real evidence of the "You had the chance to retire and enjoy your ill gotten gains. Im tired of your shit, and now Im bringing you down and will ruin you and everything you care about in the process" variety.
What is so shocking is that there has been almost 20 years of the liberals being able to ass thrust any conservative at will and have said conservative blame themselves for the abuse, they are underestimating Trump if they think he will roll like the establishment conservatives did.
I don't doubt the accusation, Im sure POS (formerly POTUS but always POS) used the full underhanded, illegal power of his office to do everything to screw the country same as he is currently doing now but.....you cant release this in a Tweet without soon coming out with real evidence of the "You had the chance to retire and enjoy your ill gotten gains. Im tired of your shit, and now Im bringing you down and will ruin you and everything you care about in the process" variety.
What is so shocking is that there has been almost 20 years of the liberals being able to ass thrust any conservative at will and have said conservative blame themselves for the abuse, they are underestimating Trump if they think he will roll like the establishment conservatives did.
He is the fkng president, dont think he would be making the accusations and follow ups unless he did. The question is , when do we arrest obama and everyone involved, At that point does it start a civil war? This makes sense if you piece together the insane, even more so than normal insanity coming from the DEMs at a high level and their propaganda people in the MSM. I am betting there is something here.
Seems to be indications beyond mere speculation....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-phones.html
During the summer last year, the Obama administration filed a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Trump and several advisers but the request was denied, according to Heat Street former editor, Louise Mensch.
Just a day before the 2016 election, Mensch reported that 'sources with links to the counter-intelligence community' confirmed that a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) had granted a FISA court warrant in October to monitor activities in Trump tower.
On Wednesday, a New York Times report said White House officials took efforts in the closing days of the Obama administration to analyze and spread information about Russian election interference, driven by a concern that the material might get buried by Trump.
Intelligence agencies rushed to analyze raw intelligence material about Russia connections, going over months-old material as the extent and possible motives of what the agencies say is Russian election hacking emerged.
Officials made efforts to ask specific questions at intelligence briefings as a way to get the information into the record and be archived for examination later.
In January, American law enforcement and intelligence agencies examined intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of Trump, according to the Times.
The FBI led the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, and the Treasury Department's financial crimes unit.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4aNii3ne6
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Thing is the smoke screen will be that they did this because they suspected Trump to be a foreign agent. This whole Russia thing is one big "Gaslight" operation to create evidence to back their story and give them license to do whatever they want to do.
This is a coup by technological means and dezinformatsiya.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ng-phones.html
During the summer last year, the Obama administration filed a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Trump and several advisers but the request was denied, according to Heat Street former editor, Louise Mensch.
Just a day before the 2016 election, Mensch reported that 'sources with links to the counter-intelligence community' confirmed that a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) had granted a FISA court warrant in October to monitor activities in Trump tower.
On Wednesday, a New York Times report said White House officials took efforts in the closing days of the Obama administration to analyze and spread information about Russian election interference, driven by a concern that the material might get buried by Trump.
Intelligence agencies rushed to analyze raw intelligence material about Russia connections, going over months-old material as the extent and possible motives of what the agencies say is Russian election hacking emerged.
Officials made efforts to ask specific questions at intelligence briefings as a way to get the information into the record and be archived for examination later.
In January, American law enforcement and intelligence agencies examined intercepted communications and financial transactions as part of a broad investigation into possible links between Russian officials and associates of Trump, according to the Times.
The FBI led the investigations, aided by the National Security Agency, and the Treasury Department's financial crimes unit.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4aNii3ne6
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Thing is the smoke screen will be that they did this because they suspected Trump to be a foreign agent. This whole Russia thing is one big "Gaslight" operation to create evidence to back their story and give them license to do whatever they want to do.
This is a coup by technological means and dezinformatsiya.
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Well, if we can hold off just a bit, mid-April would be a good time to tee off. It's traditional, right?
FWIW - only the DNC and Hillary servers were hacked. The MSM continues to insist "the Russians heck the election." In truth, there is no evidence a single vote cast in the presidential election had been altered due to Russian hacking. This is an important point for all to remember and recite!
Preaching to the choir brother but its nice to know/see someone else state it because it has to be repeated often.
If Podesta had not been so stupid to open a phishing email, had Hillary not been so reckless with state secrets and her personal server, had the DNC only taken the FBI's advise to secure their system (like the RNC did when they got the same warning) than we would likely now be living in the Fourth Reich without the little bit of last hope we currently have.
just wait one minute, Trump needs to provide proof???? fk that, he can provide that right after these screaming commie sons a bitches provide their proof. I think he should just arrest Obama once he has proof. Let the cards fall where they fall. Now I am going out to load up 300 win mag.
As soon as the pizza gate investigation in complete. It was not by chance "The Bitch" made the statement that was caught on a open mic "if he gets elected we are all going to jail". The pedophile issue will be brought to light.
This is about as high as you get with the American people, they "WILL" bring out the pitch forks when they learn what went/is going on.
I understand, but the root dem/libtard issue with the coup is because they do not what pizza gate to be opened to the American people. This is why they will do everything they can to bring Trump, Down. They ARE scared to death of being outed for the worst crimes possible in the American public's eyes. This root issue has ties to very powerful people all over this rock.
Is it possible for Trump to review ALL the surveillance targets from 2016? I'm sure he has the authority to find out if he was under surveillance...
You ranting fucking lunatic. Listen to you. Never said he needs to provide shit. Said I "hope" he has solid proof. HOPE vs NEEDS. Then you come up with 'once he has proof'? You're all over the fucking place. Which is it? My Mother Fucking Point Is He Needs To Rise Above All This Fucking Bullshit and His Piece of Shit Retractor's. When he completely separates himself from the conspiracy theorists with "Actual Fucking Facts" vs their innuendo, with HOPEFULLY solid proof to show the masses we have indisputable proof that it happened, He/We/U/Us WIN. It solidifies his credibility. And destroys theirs. Again. We need to gain MORE momentum. This will help in the long run. And we know it's going to be A LONG RUN.
Now, more importantly, are we doing something in the 160-170 gr range or are we going heavy with 210-220 grainers? H1000, Retumbo, H4831, RL22, or what? More specs needed. Barrel length, twist, yada yada.
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You ranting fucking lunatic. Listen to you. Never said he had to provide shit. Said I "hope" he has solid proof. HOPE vs NEEDS. Then you come up with 'once he has proof'? You're all over the fucking place. Which is it? My Mother Fucking Point Is He Needs To Rise Above All This Fucking Bullshit and His Piece of Shit Retractor's. When he completely separates himself from the conspiracy theorists with "Actual Fucking Facts" vs their innuendo, with HOPEFULLY solid proof to show the masses we have indisputable proof that it happened, He/We/U/Us WIN. It solidifies his credibility. And destroys theirs. Again. We need to gain MORE momentum. This will help in the long run. And we know it's going to be A LONG RUN.
Now, more importantly, are we doing something in the 160-170 gr range or are we going heavy with 210-220 grainers? H1000, Retumbo, H4831, RL22, or what? More specs needed. Barrel length, twist, yada yada.
Fucking? Tsk, tsk, tsk. Manners, please.
Not at all, our mellow brother from the PNW took your example and broke free his chains of decorum. Proving that there has always been a master of profanity hiding in that mild mannered exterior (big shocker for a cop, I know)
Really, it isn't Jerry's fault. The damn 정찰총국 have planted psilocybin mushroom semipermeable kimchi pots all around his place. They've leaked enough into the ground that his water tastes vaguely of hot pepper paste and failure, and his rants are multiplying daily. One side benefit is that he now has an automatic aversion to extraneous Western improvements to COMBLOC rifles.
My bad. Going back into low gear,
I'm sure you can be tempted to revert for a box of cheesesteaks.
nope, you guys are unaware our politics do not operate on proof or fact anymore, never did actually. Keep funnin with this particular matter and these criminal fks will walk away unscathed again. Think a little deeper into the implications of what has allegedly happened. IT is truely and absolutely a POLICE STATE, you think backlash over a few bad shoots by the BLM assholes was a problem, backlash over freedom matters people will be like dantes inferno unless these high and mighty criminal fks start getting dissapeared one way or another into a jail somewhere.
In short, this will be interesting how it's gonna play out. I hope to hell he's got solid proof or he's gonna shoot himself in the femur on this one. Hell yes hrow it out there, but back it the hell up. Please.
Stolen and sent to Facebook with the expreess intent of offending snowflakes.
Proof? I'd like to see proof but the question would be do I believe what I see or hear from either dem-rats or rinos at this point,... answer,... no I won't. The only thing I believe is the forces that want to be are trying to save their house of cards by any method possible, an want to keep the smoke an mirrors going long enough to divert. When dead body's with certain names start showing up I'll know it's time to dance. Until then they can keep turning up the pot heat, but some of us frogs might be Hillbillys but we ain't that stupid. Pizza gate is/was the keystone event of the arch.
Im starting to think that people that care about "real freedom" are in the minority.
I see the majority being those that want the government to take care of them.
Sucks.
I take it for what it is, POLICE STATE methods, in the realm of Castro, Stalin, and the ilk. Our politicians need an ideaological cleansing.
It is becoming increasingly evident that Trump's "team" isn't working with him.
I'll attribute it to more being like McCain than not.
They have sold out and their monetary masters have the goods and the leash.
I'll wager this is what the rest of the next four years are going to look like.
The establishment took one straight to the cocksucker and are lashing out.
R
I'll attribute it to more being like McCain than not.
They have sold out and their monetary masters have the goods and the leash.
I'll wager this is what the rest of the next four years are going to look like.
The establishment took one straight to the cocksucker and are lashing out.
R
Geraldo knows nothing about FISA authority. And that chick's source will wind up in hot water before it's over if he/she keeps leaking to the press, if there ever was a FISA order to begin with. Either way, the President (Obama) can't direct the FISC to issue an order anyhow.
Sounds sounds like more political mud slinging.
Sounds sounds like more political mud slinging.
Well, sounds like they judge shopped til they found a fellow traveler on the FISA court which only took tow attempts.
As I followed the Syrian conflict and tried to put it into perspectives of other civil wars I always wondered what the psychology is of people who readily take up arms against their own. I'm seeing it here, in ArmyJerry. You utter lunatic. You, more than anyone I've ever seen post on these boards should be exorcized with extreme prejudice. You think because Trump's president he doesn't need proof? IDIOT! You think the fact that there was communication with Russia (a country you've many many times denigrated) and that those communications were denied under oath is no big deal. IDIOT!
Any administration is DUTY BOUND, to put under investigation anyone who they suspect of dealing with foreign agents against the interests of this country. If they lied about their conversations, I'd say that's PC to put them under those investigations. If they solicited illegal help from Russia to defeat Hilary then that's wrong and blindingly stupid. It's the kind of self-serving, agenda driven politics that will destroy this country. If they did this, there ought to be a full effort to rip this administration out and put it into the dustbin of history and serve as a warning to future ones.
Trump has pulled stupid statements out of this ass without proof only be defended by 'alternative facts'. If this president has details, he is duty bound to provide them, his office does not entitle him to shit when it comes to making accusations without proof. It's called LAW.
Seriously, we complained about the last guy because he wasn't true to his word and his intentions were suspect but now we don't care about transparency and evidence?
Holy shit.
Any administration is DUTY BOUND, to put under investigation anyone who they suspect of dealing with foreign agents against the interests of this country. If they lied about their conversations, I'd say that's PC to put them under those investigations. If they solicited illegal help from Russia to defeat Hilary then that's wrong and blindingly stupid. It's the kind of self-serving, agenda driven politics that will destroy this country. If they did this, there ought to be a full effort to rip this administration out and put it into the dustbin of history and serve as a warning to future ones.
Trump has pulled stupid statements out of this ass without proof only be defended by 'alternative facts'. If this president has details, he is duty bound to provide them, his office does not entitle him to shit when it comes to making accusations without proof. It's called LAW.
Seriously, we complained about the last guy because he wasn't true to his word and his intentions were suspect but now we don't care about transparency and evidence?
Holy shit.
On both sides. God better Bless America because these, as you say "cocksuckers" are a curse.
The people of this nation spoke in the last election, right or wrong they wanted a different direction than the last 28 years of "We know whats good for "YOU". The reason your seeing this level of B/S is both sides( both dems an rinos VS us) know it all shakes out with Trump, either way it gets decided with him. Everyone has choices in life, but if these people think those that supported Trump will set idle while they continue to run their game on us they are mistaken. If it is proven beyond doubt, that Obama and it's ink did this, there will be blood in the streets. This whole deal so reminds me of the Athens Tenn event circa 1946, to the point it's not funny. Some times doing the wrong thing, is the right thing in the long run!
Please explain, how, if the Trump advisors were illegally engaging with Russia, putting them under surveillance was incorrect and worthy of bloodletting? Plus, WHO are you going to kill? Whose blood will you spill? Can we expect you and AJ up in a tower somewhere slotting millennial in skinny jeans?
WTF are you people talking about? How are you not in the least bit interested in why Sessions lied under oath to Congress? How are you not in the least bit pissed off that out of the gate this admin. is lying to the american people in pretty much the same arrogant and "oh just create a bogeyman and they'll believe anything" manner as the other side?
You're getting all geared up to slot folks just because you don't want the truth to be what it is and you think that it'll all work out in the wash...
Pint,
Take what you see here in the context of those that have viewed the last 8 years through the veil of fast and furious, you have to pass it to see whats in it, if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, james rosen, Benghazi, tell vlad ill be more flexible after the election, the Clinton foundation, wikileaks......
all these outrages are facts and there was no accountability. Im sure I have missed a few crimes on my list.
The Russia line is a total scam being fabricated by those that have committed the above list of criminal activities.
I in no way think that it justifies unlawful action on the part of those that are offended by these outrages though.
The only suitable outcome of this whole conflict of ideologies is exposure to sunlight. I think the truth it reveals will be in Trumps favor.
Than the real danger begins because the other side is that desperate they will take matters into their own hands. They have been doing so already in Ferguson, Baltimore yesterday at the pro Trump rallies.
When they are really desperate they will overextend, than it will be the beginning of the end. The only suitable outcome will be achieved when they act first.
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Well it's pretty obvious you did listen to the hypothetical question, specific to the Trump campaign staff, Al Franken asked Jeff Sessions. Session didn't lie! If anything, he offered up too much information in his reply.
You obviously have preconceived opinions concerning Trump in general.
These cloud your version of the "truth".
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As I followed the Syrian conflict and tried to put it into perspectives of other civil wars I always wondered what the psychology is of people who readily take up arms against their own. I'm seeing it here, in ArmyJerry. You utter lunatic. You, more than anyone I've ever seen post on these boards should be exorcized with extreme prejudice.
*I am honored you single me out as a fierce defender of My country and My freedoms. You are correct, I actually swore as most here have to protect my freedoms and my country and even ignorant people like you from all enemies Foreign and DOMESTIC.I am Honored, thank you.
*I like how you want to exorcise people you disagree with, that is why I am the way I am, asshole, just to get to people like you.
You think because Trump's president he doesn't need proof?
*I think he needs as much proof as Hil and your boy Obama needed to peddle the fiction that a video caused Benghazi, hell they even locked up some dude to prove their narrative, so go fuck yourself asshole.
IDIOT! You think the fact that there was communication with Russia (a country you've many many times denigrated) and that those communications were denied under oath is no big deal. IDIOT!
*Did the dems investigate themselves since they had so much more contact with he Russians than Trump or even Sessions? Or are you saying only non establishment people are suspect? Idiot, I think you are a fellow traveler and probably reside in DC somewhere, you scumbag. I think you are feeling the heat now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JpPU-SwcbE
Any administration is DUTY BOUND, to put under investigation anyone who they suspect of dealing with foreign agents against the interests of this country. If they lied about their conversations, I'd say that's PC to put them under those investigations. If they solicited illegal help from Russia to defeat Hilary then that's wrong and blindingly stupid. It's the kind of self-serving, agenda driven politics that will destroy this country. If they did this, there ought to be a full effort to rip this administration out and put it into the dustbin of history and serve as a warning to future ones.
*I suspect you are employed by the Fed governemnt, the DNC, or actual Russians, the 3 sentences above will be used by Trump on Obama and his future political opponents to suppress them as will whoever takes over after Trump. They judge shopped with no evidence, they broke so many laws, you are a servile POS if you believe otherwise. Duty bound, that is fkn rich, you know nothing of duty you asshole, where was this sense of Duty when the IRS was weaponized to go after political opponents by the DEM party? Where was this sense of duty when Obama was caught running guns to the cartels in Mexico? the list gos on and on so stop lying.
Trump has pulled stupid statements out of this ass without proof only be defended by 'alternative facts'. If this president has details, he is duty bound to provide them, his office does not entitle him to shit when it comes to making accusations without proof. It's called LAW.
*Dont lecture me on the law you servile POS, you think its okay for a sitting pres to wire tap his political opponent, you are a devious servile POS if you think that is legal.
Seriously, we complained about the last guy because he wasn't true to his word and his intentions were suspect but now we don't care about transparency and evidence?
hahhahahahhahahhahahhahhahahah, Obama was not transparent, but he was true to his word though, he transformed the country like he promised, to a Police state.
Holy shit.
And Finally, Trump needs to ask himself what would Obama do in this situation???????? I think he needs to go Obama on Obama. Rules for radicals go's both ways and you guys opened that Pandora box, douche.
PS Stop trying to silence people you disagree with.
*I am honored you single me out as a fierce defender of My country and My freedoms. You are correct, I actually swore as most here have to protect my freedoms and my country and even ignorant people like you from all enemies Foreign and DOMESTIC.I am Honored, thank you.
*I like how you want to exorcise people you disagree with, that is why I am the way I am, asshole, just to get to people like you.
You think because Trump's president he doesn't need proof?
*I think he needs as much proof as Hil and your boy Obama needed to peddle the fiction that a video caused Benghazi, hell they even locked up some dude to prove their narrative, so go fuck yourself asshole.
IDIOT! You think the fact that there was communication with Russia (a country you've many many times denigrated) and that those communications were denied under oath is no big deal. IDIOT!
*Did the dems investigate themselves since they had so much more contact with he Russians than Trump or even Sessions? Or are you saying only non establishment people are suspect? Idiot, I think you are a fellow traveler and probably reside in DC somewhere, you scumbag. I think you are feeling the heat now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JpPU-SwcbE
Any administration is DUTY BOUND, to put under investigation anyone who they suspect of dealing with foreign agents against the interests of this country. If they lied about their conversations, I'd say that's PC to put them under those investigations. If they solicited illegal help from Russia to defeat Hilary then that's wrong and blindingly stupid. It's the kind of self-serving, agenda driven politics that will destroy this country. If they did this, there ought to be a full effort to rip this administration out and put it into the dustbin of history and serve as a warning to future ones.
*I suspect you are employed by the Fed governemnt, the DNC, or actual Russians, the 3 sentences above will be used by Trump on Obama and his future political opponents to suppress them as will whoever takes over after Trump. They judge shopped with no evidence, they broke so many laws, you are a servile POS if you believe otherwise. Duty bound, that is fkn rich, you know nothing of duty you asshole, where was this sense of Duty when the IRS was weaponized to go after political opponents by the DEM party? Where was this sense of duty when Obama was caught running guns to the cartels in Mexico? the list gos on and on so stop lying.
Trump has pulled stupid statements out of this ass without proof only be defended by 'alternative facts'. If this president has details, he is duty bound to provide them, his office does not entitle him to shit when it comes to making accusations without proof. It's called LAW.
*Dont lecture me on the law you servile POS, you think its okay for a sitting pres to wire tap his political opponent, you are a devious servile POS if you think that is legal.
Seriously, we complained about the last guy because he wasn't true to his word and his intentions were suspect but now we don't care about transparency and evidence?
hahhahahahhahahhahahhahhahahah, Obama was not transparent, but he was true to his word though, he transformed the country like he promised, to a Police state.
Holy shit.
And Finally, Trump needs to ask himself what would Obama do in this situation???????? I think he needs to go Obama on Obama. Rules for radicals go's both ways and you guys opened that Pandora box, douche.
PS Stop trying to silence people you disagree with.
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First point to where I said I was going to kill anyone? Second you take it for granted Trump an staff are guilty based upon what proof, left wing news, laughable at best? Saying the same tired old shit over an over does not wash out the lies and turn it into truth in this country, bub. Third, your assumptions are based upon what kind of logic? You seem to ASS-U-ME much then again the other side never needs proof or to provide same right? Every person in gov talks out one side of their mouth while erasing it with the other, the left gets to talk to the Russians an the right does not, what kind of left wing logic is that about? I have a very good sense of smell even threw the cables of the internet.
AJ - don't make me out to be a Dem. I'm not. I'm an independent thinker and I don't excuse bullshit regardless of source. You're not defending a damn thing if you think the rule of law doesn't apply. There's no freedom in lawlessness.
The Dems were and are shit, they fail to live up to anything like their own standards but that does NOT mean this admin gets to do the same just because we like the majority of their politics. False facts, unsubstantiated statements and accusations are bad policy regardless of who you are. If you defend those, then you're not defending anything worth while and you're wholly misconceived in your notion of what this country is and what it stands for. Your reference to Obama shows you're about revenge, not governance.
This, what the admin is doing, is the evolution of the propaganda driven messaging machine that the previous two admins started. The Russians are not our friends, even if they hacked the DNC and gave what was needed to defeat Clinton, that doesn't make them our buds. It makes them meddling agents in our election. If you applaud that, you're not a friend to the democratic process. Am I glad that Clinton didn't win, yes. Am I glad that Trump's president? No. Didn't vote for him but once he got it, I hoped for the best for him and us and I'm not getting what I hoped for.
Tweets, accusations without evidence, petulance and attacking the judiciary are not elements of the Constitution that I hold dear - because they're not in there...
Your suppositions about me show your paranoia. I'm in private equity and a hard capitalist libertarian.
The Dems were and are shit, they fail to live up to anything like their own standards but that does NOT mean this admin gets to do the same just because we like the majority of their politics. False facts, unsubstantiated statements and accusations are bad policy regardless of who you are. If you defend those, then you're not defending anything worth while and you're wholly misconceived in your notion of what this country is and what it stands for. Your reference to Obama shows you're about revenge, not governance.
This, what the admin is doing, is the evolution of the propaganda driven messaging machine that the previous two admins started. The Russians are not our friends, even if they hacked the DNC and gave what was needed to defeat Clinton, that doesn't make them our buds. It makes them meddling agents in our election. If you applaud that, you're not a friend to the democratic process. Am I glad that Clinton didn't win, yes. Am I glad that Trump's president? No. Didn't vote for him but once he got it, I hoped for the best for him and us and I'm not getting what I hoped for.
Tweets, accusations without evidence, petulance and attacking the judiciary are not elements of the Constitution that I hold dear - because they're not in there...
Your suppositions about me show your paranoia. I'm in private equity and a hard capitalist libertarian.
I said "if".
However, in reviewing the Q&A with Sessions - clearly, to me, he lied. He was categorical in his statements about having no dealings with the Russians. Flynn lied, he's gone. Something's up... This doesn't mean the other side is pristine, they're not, and all the transgressions listed by ArmyJerry and true and largely unanswered for, but, that doesn't mean we play 'catch up'...
APOGP, you are probably a foreigner since you use so many UK spellings. So I gotta say, I give even less a shit about you than I would a fellow countryman that was a Dem. Let me see, Trunp has a tweet, all to himself, he can tweet whatever he wants. The Dems and Establisment have TWEETS, FACEBOOK, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, who are non stop lying, without evidence, fact, or even logic to back up the bullshit they put out 24/7, You didn't vote for Trump but are worried about how Clinton might have lost because of the Russians but you say you are not a Dem, I am going to agree with you, you are not a Dem, you are probably a lying ass communist who grew up in Europe and now you are twirling your worry beads because trump might kick your communist ass out of my country. Or you could be just another Dem from Chicago, in that case I can only say stop lying, to yourself and the rest of us.
