PRS Talk X-Rail Pad Question

[Rogerthatout]

I’ve had the bug to try a flat bag that would attach to my Area419 plate or to my gray ops plate but I’m kinda partial to the weight and feel of the Armageddon heavy fill; does anyone know if the Rail-X feels, and/or acts like a Armageddon heavy bag? It comes in “standard” and “beads “ but I don’t think it’s going to be like the heavy I'm partial to.

Anyone else run these?

Standard bead fill – approx. 3 lbs (+/-)
Sand fill: approx 8 lbs (+/-)

I’m hoping the sand fill is same as what I have in my “ heavies”

 

[Vivacious Stallion]

Are you asking if it acts like a heavy sand gamechanger? What are you expecting to use it for.

I use one as an attached front bag when I'm using tripod rear support on a stage. I use the bead fill, so that it doesn't make the front of the gun too heavy. I thought about changing it out with heavy sand, but I decided against it. I'm happy with it for the application I use it for.

 

[FieldGaugeFailure]

Can someone take a picture of the top of the bag? I want to see it's connection point.

 

[Rogerthatout]

Are you asking if it acts like a heavy sand gamechanger? What are you expecting to use it for.

I use one as an attached front bag when I'm using tripod rear support on a stage. I use the bead fill, so that it doesn't make the front of the gun too heavy. I thought about changing it out with heavy sand, but I decided against it. I'm happy with it for the application I use it for.
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I wanted to try running that bag on barricade rather than a Shmedium , also use it for a front bag with rear support as you pointed out and also for my kids as a regular barricade option . But to answer your question, wanted this bag as an alternative to my schedium. Nothing will be more steady than a schedium but I really wanted to try running a bag attached but nothing to big… and that flat profile looks like it easy to approach a prop. I would want the schmedium fill though.

 

[Vivacious Stallion]

@Rogerthatout I used to have the gamechanger that direct attached to the plate and found it to not be an advantage on many stages and generally too heavy. You could use the flat bag as a traditional barricade bag, however it doesn't have quite the ability to sink into the prop like a gamechanger regardless of the fill material. This makes it much less stable. it also has a point in the middle that pinches upwards to control the fill spread that leaves a dead spot if I remember.

The real advantage of the connected bag is freeing up your hands. So in the case of the tripod rear you can move very fast because you aren't managing 3 items as the bag is connected to the gun. You don't gain much from this with standard barricade bag situations.

I would buy one for the tripod use alone and then you can always mess around with it for other things.

 

[Rogerthatout]

I think you talked me out of this idea, which I was on the fence about. I do have a grip changer which I was going to try for a front bag and rear support combo. I don’t think I need much more than that for up front.. do I ?

 

[Vivacious Stallion]

If you've already got one do some drills with it and find out. Of the front bag plate things I've tried, I like the wider ones (within reason) because they're more stable from tipping, but I bet that would work fine.

At some point here you're splitting hairs, since this is a bag you might use once or twice at most in a match.

 

[Rogerthatout]

Yeah 100% agree w that

 

[Rob01]

Why not just get one of these? Flat and attaches to Rail X.

The D-Bag, from Cole-Tac

The D-Bag was specially created as a lower-profile support pad for the RailChanger X system. It contours the bag and provides a solid base on barricades without adding a lot of overall height to your rifle system. Made of a combination of 500D and 1000D Codura and filled (fill volume is...

www.area419.com

 

[Vivacious Stallion]

@Rob01 I believe thats the item we were discussing. It used to be called the X pad before they rereleased/renamed it to the d-bag?

 

[Rob01]

@Rob01 I believe thats the item we were discussing. It used to be called the X pad before they rereleased/renamed it to the d-bag?

Ah ok. Didn't realize it had multiple names. lol Was the D bag when I got mine a few years back.

 

[Rogerthatout]

Why not just get one of these? Flat and attaches to Rail X.

The D-Bag, from Cole-Tac

The D-Bag was specially created as a lower-profile support pad for the RailChanger X system. It contours the bag and provides a solid base on barricades without adding a lot of overall height to your rifle system. Made of a combination of 500D and 1000D Codura and filled (fill volume is...

www.area419.com

Because I find myself not wanting anything other than Armageddon heavy fill in all my bags, I was wondering if that bag had same fill

 

[Vivacious Stallion]

Because I find myself not wanting anything other than Armageddon heavy fill in all my bags, I was wondering if that bag had same fill

Just change the fill to whatever you want if that's the issue? It has a velcro foldover entry on the side.

 

[LA260]

Because I find myself not wanting anything other than Armageddon heavy fill in all my bags, I was wondering if that bag had same fill

D-bag. sand

Area419 Schmedium Heavy. feels like sugar